BudSniffer

This company I work for has really been pushing us to do a lot more, faster, and a lot of BS for the last 2 yrs....I been bitching and going along somewhat...but they know I ain't liking it...It's been hard on me, and another guy a few years older than me, with all the changes. Pushing us to do 7 jobs where we did one, trying to feed us a lot of BS, messing with our money etc....But I have still been gettin' decent reviews, and even last week, we have to do these stupid ass things called Personal Development Plans, basically telling the company what you plan on doing in the next year, goals, training, etc, to help the company, and the sup seemed cool with what I had.

Well, evidently somebody chewed his ass, Wednesday, cause he was in meetings for awhile. Come Thursday morning, he went on a rampage, we noticed he was pacing the floor, looking at everyone, finally he comes over to the older guy and chews his ass, telling him, we been talking too much, he ain't doing all the work he should be, he's going too slow, etc.... next he came to me, and then he got another guy, in the aisles as we were picking orders, which is what we were supposed to be doing.

Well, first of all this fat, lazy MF comes up to me with an attitude from hell, talking loud, just below shouting, all in my face. I was giving it back just as good, but everything I tried to tell him I had done, he brushed aside and inserted his negative shit, downing me... now me, I am a real easygoing quiet guy mostly, until you rile me, then you better get the fuck out of my way...I am an ex- Marine and I don't put up with no bull from nobody. My temper was getting hotter and hotter, I was trying my damndest to hold back, but this punk was just like he was gouging me in the side with a stick and trying his damndest to stare me down. I raised my voice to match his, which was only about half as loud as I can get, when pissed. I was so mad I was trembling, if he had went 30 seconds longer, I swear he would have been picking himself up off the floor.....but I knew, he knew I would lose my job for certain. He even went so far as to tell me, I was to be working AT 8am, and if I had to, to come in early to use the restroom.

I know, that I will NOT tolerate anything else from him, and if he tries, he will push me beyond control. If he gets in my face again, I swear I will back hand him across the room. I will be thoroughly fucked if I lose my job, but I will not tolerate ANYONE trying to rough-shod over me, and talk BS on me......he just told me the other day, I was one of the top notch people as far as knowing the system, and told me in my last review, I was the best as far as catching errors and learning on my own....I am considering having a conversation with the Pres of the company, who I know and explain to him the situation....not sure how that might go though. I already dread going in Monday, cause I am expecting him to be on my ass again......

I am already looking for another job, have been for awhile now, but nothing in the works at all....

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farmergiles

I used to fucking hate that nonsense lol.

I dunno what kind of place you work in but who is the sup's boss? Could you have a discreet word with them? Sounds like your sup is getting shit from higher management because he isn't doing his job properly or something.

Whatever you do don't knock him out unless you've already decided you want to leave .
You probably aren't going to get fired anytime soon if you don't -unless your place of work is downsizing big time or something.

Maybe checking job options might be a good idea before the situation deteriorates too much.
Or who knows, he might get fired first.

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~1~

Shit rolls down hill, it's the corporate way, he got his and you got yours.

I'm sure neither of you deserved what you got, the only difference being he had a whole room full of people to shit on and you have us.

Stick around, watch your mouth a bit and work, it's rough out here.


You wanna know what sucks fucking ASS?!

For every four guys I know that don't have a job, I know one guy who is fucking stressed to their limit because they are doing the work of five men.

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Jester4yall

~1~ summed it up.. We all have our bad days. Apparently that was his.. Also they hate it when you smile @ them when they are blowing you shit, maybe worth a try

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You will encounter many distractions and many temptations to put your goal aside: The security of a job, a wife who wants kids, whatever. But if you hang in there, always following your vision, I have no doubt you will succeed. - Larry Flynt

~1~

Fuck that. His boss doesn't want to hear shit from you otherwise there would be no him, it's why there is middle management, to keep the peons at bay.

Also if you went over your immediate supervisors head and came to me with your beef, I would feel you are the weak link and can't work as a team member further complicating my life so guess what chief...

Listen man, you and I come from the same era when you could advance on your merits, get raises dependent on your performance and advance through a company to the upper ranks based on how good an employee you are.

Those days are done Jack.

It has everything to do with the corporate ideal and in that ideal you'll need a certain number of minorities, a certain number of women, a certain number of handicapped and so on and so forth. Really doesn't matter any more whether or not they can actually perform the job they were hired to do as long as they fit the corporate landscape.

Fuck it, if one idiot can't do the job half assed, we'll hire two idiots. Just so we don't piss anyone off.

If you work in a company with more than eight employees or an 'inc.' after the name you are doomed to a bleak existence where your best bet is keep your head down, your mouth shut and just keep hoping the pink slip lottery forgets you even work there.

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Geeno

My workplace has been triflin hard recently. Other employees are urging me to go to the money man and ask for a serious raise, but I'm thinking about just stfu-ing and handing in some apps elsewhere and laying it out like that.

"Hey you guys need to bump me up 5 an hour or I'm out, cause these guys are willing to pay that" - I wouldn't bother asking such a thing if my quality of work is any less than it is. I've learned more in my one year than many have in 5, and I never complain about working 14+ hour days in the dead heat of summer, and stay productive.

But the fact that I make 20-100% less than my coworkers kinda grinds my gear. Especially when people practically fight to work with me because they know I do everything with excellence.

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Jester4yall

Why is it the hard workers get shit on? Been there guys

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In matters of style, swim with the current; In matters of principle, stand like a rock. -Thomas Jefferson

You will encounter many distractions and many temptations to put your goal aside: The security of a job, a wife who wants kids, whatever. But if you hang in there, always following your vision, I have no doubt you will succeed. - Larry Flynt

BudSniffer

Well, actually his boss, used to be our boss...and he started about 2 weeks after me, he was promoted to Operations manager within a year. And he is prolly part of the problem. When he was in the warehouse with us, he never got on anybody's ass, like he didn't want anyone to think he was an asshole. But I heard him say enough about how he wanted things, to know he was an asshole, behind the scene so to speak. He refuses to give us any breaks except lunch. I think what might have happened, is they got to where they make everyone initial everything. If you print the order, initial here, if you packed the order initial here etc...then at the end of the month, a secretary goes through all the paperwork and counts how many initials each person has, for each job, they graph this shit, post it on a board. I am mostly an inspector, which was my only job before all this BS, and they know it takes up most of your time, so he has been cool with it. I'm not one of those super fast people, but I help everyone to learn, answer any questions, and keep the salespeople, material managers from the US and the Netherlands (which is where the HQ is) happy. When they kept an error log for the entire year, I had the least, I have been told numerous times, I know the system better than most. But we have a couple of people, some new hires, that are trying to do as much of every job as they can, at the expense of quality. I think his boss chewed his ass, because our numbers for the other areas weren't up with the others...
It may be my end, but I have decided to write the head man in the Netherlands and let him know how things are being run here, I don't think he would approve.....This is only the tip of the ice berg, they have shown extreme favoritism for certain people, especially of color...When this new sup came a couple of years ago, he rode me and the other older white guy constantly, asking me, "Do you mind if I come up to you sometime and ask what you are doing? I mean, I see you doing something, but I don't know what." He kept on, til the other guy told him at review time, "it's no secret around here, some folks are treated differently." He then lightened up. They went 4 yrs workin' us overtime without paying us overtime, then all of a sudden decided to change our pay, under the guise of wanting to make sure they pay us for overtime, which no one gets anymore anyways. All it did was screw with our pay, so one pay period, we get 72 hours, the next might be 88, 80, 96 and on like that....when we complained, they bluntly said, get over it, that's the way it's going to be. They go through our work while we are at lunch to see what we are doing, it's extreme micro-management. Also the sup used to help us, when we were swamped with work, the last year, he does nothing but sit on his ass, staring at the computer. I have heard several comments about this, from the team leaders, and how he jumps up and starts doing shit when his boss come out from up front. He has told them once, that he wasn't doing our work. Well, the other day, when he showed his ass, he grabbed a pallet jack and started moving shit, slamming pallets around like a spoiled mad kid. I have never seen him work so much.....
I have already compiled 3 pages of shit, and I'm not even done...either some heads are gonna roll, or I'm gonna roll.

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Roach

shit I'd ask to be transferred

seems odd that with all the "management" going on, none of them seem too concerned about U.S. labor laws...particularly on the 15 minute break every two hours (this is only a state mandate, not federal) , and overtime compensation.
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The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) , which prescribes standards for the basic minimum wage and overtime pay, affects most private and public employment. It requires employers to pay covered employees who are not otherwise exempt at least the federal minimum wage and overtime pay of one-and-one-half-times the regular rate of pay. For nonagricultural operations, it restricts the hours that children under age 16 can work and forbids the employment of children under age 18 in certain jobs deemed too dangerous. For agricultural operations, it prohibits the employment of children under age 16 during school hours and in certain jobs deemed too dangerous. The Act is administered by the Employment Standards Administration's Wage and Hour Division within the U.S. Department of Labor.
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I'm guessing therefore, they are also cheating the IRS and (whichever state you're in)
unemployment compensation program.

If you get canned , the above are all valid complaints, that would bring in a full audit of the place you're currently at , and perhaps the entire company.

...also, knowing that the place you're working at is operating in violation of any US or State Labor Laws (knowing them yourself)...
well that would be something the owners would definately want to know.

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~1~

Ahhh, you see the light my friend...


It isn't because the labor is so cheap, well it isn't only that the labor is so cheap, it's also the ability to fill a position with someone who can do the job not just someone who fits the profile for that job. Tough to do in America where you need an MBA to manage ten pimple faced teenagers slapping pickles on buns.

You know as well as I do it takes ten years of practical experience to trump a fresh degree even though the school of hard knocks is less likely to fuck shit up.

We're old, we're lucky though, we can bullshit the new guys into doing things correctly instead of how they were taught and they listen because we seem wise.



And this brings to a close my "Sunday Morning Cynic Sermon".

Join me next week when I take on Nationalism and whether the or not Blue Footed Booby should replace the Bald Eagle as our national bird.

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Roach

this is something every middle class worker should read.

Greetings,

Gentlemen. I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve.(1712).
First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, where I have experimented with some of the newest, and still the oldest, methods for control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish, I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasions. I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree, a couple miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed. Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I HAVE A FULL PROOF METHOD FOR CONTROLLING YOUR BLACK SLAVES. I guarantee every one of you that, if installed correctly, IT WILL CONTROL THE SLAVES FOR AT LEAST 300 HUNDREDS YEARS. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it. I HAVE OUTLINED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES AMONG THE SLAVES; AND I TAKE THESE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE THEM BIGGER. I USE FEAR, DISTRUST AND ENVY FOR CONTROL PURPOSES. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On top of my list is “AGE,” but it’s there only because it starts with an “a.” The second is “COLOR” or shade. There is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZES OF PLANTATIONS, STATUS on plantations, ATTITUDE of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, course hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action, but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST AND ENVY STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION. The Black slaves after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for HUNDREDS of years, maybe THOUSANDS. Don’t forget, you must pitch the OLD black male vs. the YOUNG black male, and the YOUNG black male against the OLD black male. You must use the DARK skin slaves vs. the LIGHT skin slaves, and the LIGHT skin slaves vs. the DARK skin slaves. You must use the FEMALE vs. the MALE, and the MALE vs. the FEMALE. You must also have white servants and overseers [who] distrust all Blacks. But it is NECESSARY THAT YOUR SLAVES TRUST AND DEPEND ON US. THEY MUST LOVE, RESPECT AND TRUST ONLY US. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. IF USED INTENSELY FOR ONE YEAR, THE SLAVES THEMSELVES WILL REMAIN PERPETUALLY DISTRUSTFUL. Thank you gentlemen.”

LET’S MAKE A SLAVE

It was the interest and business of slave holders to study human nature, and the slave nature in particular, with a view to practical results. I and many of them attained astonishing proficiency in this direction. They had to deal not with earth, wood and stone, but with men and, by every regard, they had for their own safety and prosperity they needed to know the material on which they were to work, conscious of the injustice and wrong they were every hour perpetuating and knowing what they themselves would do. Were they the victims of such wrongs? They were constantly looking for the first signs of the dreaded retribution. They watched therefore with skilled and practiced eyes, and learned to read with great accuracy, the state of mind and heart of the slave, through his sable face. Unusual sobriety, apparent abstractions, sullenness and indifference indeed, any mood out of the common was afforded ground for suspicion and inquiry. Frederick Douglas LET’S MAKE A SLAVE is a study of the scientific process of man-breaking and slave-making. It describes the rationale and results of the Anglo Saxons’ ideas and methods of insuring the master/slave relationship. LET’S MAKE A SLAVE “The Original and Development of a Social Being Called ‘The Negro.’” Let us make a slave. What do we need? First of all, we need a black nigger man, a pregnant nigger woman and her baby nigger boy. Second, we will use the same basic principle that we use in breaking a horse, combined with some more sustaining factors. What we do with horses is that we break them from one form of life to another; that is, we reduce them from their natural state in nature. Whereas nature provides them with the natural capacity to take care of their offspring, we break that natural string of independence from them and thereby create a dependency status, so that we may be able to get from them useful production for our business and pleasure.

CARDINAL PRINCIPLES FOR MAKING A NEGRO

For fear that our future generations may not understand the principles of breaking both of the beast together, the nigger and the horse. We understand that short range planning economics results in periodic economic chaos; so that to avoid turmoil in the economy, it requires us to have breadth and depth in long range comprehensive planning, articulating both skill sharp perceptions. We lay down the following principles for long range comprehensive economic planning. Both horse and niggers [are] no good to the economy in the wild or natural state. Both must be BROKEN and TIED together for orderly production. For orderly future, special and particular attention must be paid to the FEMALE and the YOUNGEST offspring. Both must be CROSSBRED to produce a variety and division of labor. Both must be taught to respond to a peculiar new LANGUAGE. Psychological and physical instruction of CONTAINMENT must be created for both. We hold the six cardinal principles as truth to be self-evident, based upon following the discourse concerning the economics of breaking and tying the horse and the nigger together, all inclusive of the six principles laid down above. NOTE: Neither principle alone will suffice for good economics. All principles must be employed for orderly good of the nation. Accordingly, both a wild horse and a wild or natur[al] nigger is dangerous even if captured, for they will have the tendency to seek their customary freedom and, in doing so, might kill you in your sleep. You cannot rest. They sleep while you are awake, and are awake while you are asleep. They are DANGEROUS near the family house and it requires too much labor to watch them away from the house. Above all, you cannot get them to work in this natural state. Hence, both the horse and the nigger must be broken; that is breaking them from one form of mental life to another. KEEP THE BODY, TAKE THE MIND! In other words, break the will to resist. Now the breaking process is the same for both the horse and the nigger, only slightly varying in degrees. But, as we said before, there is an art in long range economic planning. YOU MUST KEEP YOUR EYE AND THOUGHTS ON THE FEMALE and the OFFSPRING of the horse and the nigger. A brief discourse in offspring development will shed light on the key to sound economic principles. Pay little attention to the generation of original breaking, but CONCENTRATE ON FUTURE GENERATION. Therefore, if you break the FEMALE mother, she will BREAK the offspring in its early years of development; and when the offspring is old enough to work, she will deliver it up to you, for her normal female protective tendencies will have been lost in the original breaking process. For example, take the case of the wild stud horse, a female horse and an already infant horse and compare the breaking process with two captured nigger males in their natural state, a pregnant nigger woman with her infant offspring. Take the stud horse, break him for limited containment. Completely break the female horse until she becomes very gentle, whereas you or anybody can ride her in her comfort. Breed the mare and the stud until you have the desired offspring. Then, you can turn the stud to freedom until you need him again. Train the female horse whereby she will eat out of your hand, and she will in turn train the infant horse to eat out of your hand, also. When it comes to breaking the uncivilized nigger, use the same process, but vary the degree and step up the pressure, so as to do a complete reversal of the mind. Take the meanest and most restless nigger, strip him of his clothes in front of the remaining male niggers, the female, and the nigger infant, tar and feather him, tie each leg to a different horse faced in opposite directions, set him afire and beat both horses to pull him apart in front of the remaining niggers. The next step is to take a bullwhip and beat the remaining nigger males to the point of death, in front of the female and the infant. Don’t kill him, but PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN HIM, for he can be useful for future breeding.

THE BREAKING PROCESS OF THE AFRICAN WOMAN

Take the female and run a series of tests on her to see if she will submit to your desires willingly. Test her in every way, because she is the most important factor for good economics. If she shows any sign of resistance in submitting completely to your will, do not hesitate to use the bullwhip on her to extract that last bit of [b----] out of her. Take care not to kill her, for in doing so, you spoil good economics. When in complete submission, she will train her offsprings in the early years to submit to labor when they become of age. Understanding is the best thing. Therefore, we shall go deeper into this area of the subject matter concerning what we have produced here in this breaking process of the female nigger. We have reversed the relationship; in her natural uncivilized state, she would have a strong dependency on the uncivilized nigger male, and she would have a limited protective tendency toward her independent male offspring and would raise male offsprings to be dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and pulling a civilized nigger apart and bullwhipping the other to the point of death, all in her presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with the MALE IMAGE DESTROYED, the ordeal caused her to move from her psychologically dependent state to a frozen, independent state. In this frozen, psychological state of independence, she will raise her MALE and female offspring in reversed roles. For FEAR of the young male’s life, she will psychologically train him to be MENTALLY WEAK and DEPENDENT, but PHYSICALLY STRONG. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her FEMALE offsprings to be psychologically independent. What have you got? You’ve got the nigger WOMAN OUT FRONT AND THE nigger MAN BEHIND AND SCARED. This is a perfect situation of sound sleep and economics. Before the breaking process, we had to be alertly on guard at all times. Now, we can sleep soundly, for out of frozen fear his woman stands guard for us. He cannot get past her early slave-molding process. He is a good tool, now ready to be tied to the horse at a tender age. By the time a nigger boy reaches the age of sixteen, he is soundly broken in and ready for a long life of sound and efficient work and the reproduction of a unit of good labor force. Continually through the breaking of uncivilized savage niggers, by throwing the nigger female savage into a frozen psychological state of independence, by killing the protective male image, and by creating a submissive dependent mind of the nigger male slave, we have created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever, unless a phenomenon occurs and re-shifts the position of the male and female slaves. We show what we mean by example. Take the case of the two economic slave units and examine them close.

THE NEGRO MARRIAGE

We breed two nigger males with two nigger females. Then, we take the nigger male away from them and keep them moving and working. Say one nigger female bears a nigger female and the other bears a nigger male; both nigger females—being without influence of the nigger male image, frozen with a independent psychology—will raise their offspring into reverse positions. The one with the female offspring will teach her to be like herself, independent and negotiable (we negotiate with her, through her, by her, negotiates her at will). The one with the nigger male offspring, she being frozen subconscious fear for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong; in other words, body over mind. Now, in a few years when these two offsprings become fertile for early reproduction, we will mate and breed them and continue the cycle. That is good, sound and long range comprehensive planning.

WARNING: POSSIBLE INTERLOPING NEGATIVES

Earlier, we talked about the non-economic good of the horse and the nigger in their wild or natural state; we talked out the principle of breaking and tying them together for orderly production. Furthermore, we talked about paying particular attention to the female savage and her offspring for orderly future planning, then more recently we stated that, by reversing the positions of the male and female savages, we created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever unless a phenomenon occurred and reshifts positions of the male and female savages. Our experts warned us about the possibility of this phenomenon occurring, for they say that the mind has a strong drive to correct and re-correct itself over a period of time if it can touch some substantial original historical base; and they advised us that the best way to deal with the phenomenon is to shave off the brute’s mental history and create a multiplicity of phenomena of illusions, so that each illusion will twirl in its own orbit, something similar to floating balls in a vacuum. This creation of multiplicity of phenomena of illusions entails the principle of crossbreeding the nigger and the horse as we stated above, the purpose of which is to create a diversified division of labor; thereby creating different levels of labor and different values of illusion at each connecting level of labor. The results of which is the severance of the points of original beginnings for each sphere illusion. Since we feel that the subject matter may get more complicated as we proceed in laying down our economic plan concerning the purpose, reason and effect of crossbreeding horses and niggers, we shall lay down the following definition terms for future generations. Orbiting cycle means a thing turning in a given path. Axis means upon which or around which a body turns. Phenomenon means something beyond ordinary conception and inspires awe and wonder. Multiplicity means a great number. Means a globe. Crossbreeding a horse means taking a horse and breeding it with an ass and you get a dumb, backward, ass long-headed mule that is not reproductive nor productive by itself. Crossbreeding niggers mean taking so many drops of good white blood and putting them into as many nigger women as possible, varying the drops by the various tone that you want, and then letting them breed with each other until another circle of color appears as you desire. What this means is this: Put the niggers and the horse in a breeding pot, mix some asses and some good white blood and what do you get? You got a multiplicity of colors of ass backward, unusual niggers, running, tied to backward ass long-headed mules, the one productive of itself, the other sterile. (The one constant, the other dying, we keep the nigger constant for we may replace the mules for another tool) both mule and nigger tied to each other, neither knowing where the other came from and neither productive for itself, nor without each other.

CONTROLLED LANGUAGE

Crossbreeding completed, for further severance from their original beginning, WE MUST COMPLETELY ANNIHILATE THE MOTHER TONGUE of both the new nigger and the new mule, and institute a new language that involves the new life’s work of both. You know language is a peculiar institution. It leads to the heart of a people. The more a foreigner knows about the language of another country the more he is able to move through all levels of that society. Therefore, if the foreigner is an enemy of the country, to the extent that he knows the body of the language, to that extent is the country vulnerable to attack or invasion of a foreign culture. For example, if you take a slave, if you teach him all about your language, he will know all your secrets, and he is then no more a slave, for you can’t fool him any longer, and BEING A FOOL IS ONE OF THE BASIC INGREDIENTS OF ANY INCIDENTS TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SLAVERY SYSTEM. For example, if you told a slave that he must perform in getting out “our crops” and he knows the language well, he would know that “our crops” didn’t mean “our crops” and the slavery system would break down, for he would relate on the basis of what “our crops” really meant. So you have to be careful in setting up the new language; for the slaves would soon be in your house, talking to you as “man to man” and that is death to our economic system. In addition, the definitions of words or terms are only a minute part of the process. Values are created and transported by communication through the body of the language. A total society has many interconnected value systems. All the values in the society have bridges of language to connect them for orderly working in the society. But for these language bridges, these many value systems would sharply clash and cause internal strife or civil war, the degree of the conflict being determined by the magnitude of the issues or relative opposing strength in whatever form. For example, if you put a slave in a hog pen and train him to live there and incorporate in him to value it as a way of life completely, the biggest problem you would have out of him is that he would worry you about provisions to keep the hog pen clean, or the same hog pen and make a slip and incorporate something in his language whereby he comes to value a house more than he does his hog pen, you got a problem. He will soon be in your house.Additional Note: “Henty Berry, speaking in the Virginia House of Delegates in 1832, described the situation as it existed in many parts of the South at this time: “We have, as far as possible, closed every avenue by which light may enter their (the slaves) minds. If we could extinguish the capacity to see the light, our work would be complete; they would then be on a level with the beasts of the field and we should be safe. I am not certain that we would not do it, if we could find out the process and that on the plea of necessity.” From Brown America, The story of a New Race by Edwin R. Embree. 1931 The Viking Press.

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Roach

Turkey !

Ben Franklin wanted a useful bird , rather than a "scavanger".

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BudSniffer

LOL, yeah be nice to go over there, but I own my own home, wouldn't want to uproot. And my parents are up in age, needin' help sometimes.

Oh, I told him about not being paid overtime, and I know about the exempt-nonexempt, though I can never keep straight which is which. You have to be 65% supervisory in your position, to be one or the other and you don't have to be paid overtime. I called the Fed wage thing once, they say, employer does not have to give you any break, lunch or otherwise, don't know about state. Fed also says you can't make a complaint after you have quit or been fired, and you can be fired for complaining.
And another thing is the sup's boss, when he was in the warehouse, put up all these metal racks for heavy stuff and not a one is bolted to the floor. I believe OSHA might would be interested in that. Some one hit a leg of one once with a manual forklift and bent it, lucky it didn't come down on 'em.

I also noted to the Pres., I haven't figured everything completely yet, but in 2009, we took a 5% pay cut, in 2010, we were supposed to get our 5% back, plus a 2% for my good review, so how is my 2010 wages $30 less than my 2009 wages?

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"Nobody thinks the way that I do, I guess nobody dares. My head's so full of things, I set my mind free of them. I'm breaking the rules, breaking all the rules. " -Ozzy Osbourne

BudSniffer

Well, guess what? The Pres emailed me back today.... I had 6 pages of a word document of shit to say He said he was going to be gone until mid June, but if I needed to email him something urgent, he would reply. He asked me had I ultimately decided to find another job, or was my feelings, from thinking things could not be made better He said he will investigate when he returns.

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"Nobody thinks the way that I do, I guess nobody dares. My head's so full of things, I set my mind free of them. I'm breaking the rules, breaking all the rules. " -Ozzy Osbourne

Jester4yall

call him in a few maybe?

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In matters of style, swim with the current; In matters of principle, stand like a rock. -Thomas Jefferson

You will encounter many distractions and many temptations to put your goal aside: The security of a job, a wife who wants kids, whatever. But if you hang in there, always following your vision, I have no doubt you will succeed. - Larry Flynt

BudSniffer

Well,....no, I'm not surprised... the people in the Netherlands have lots of time off.... believe me....most of them take the month of August off, cause that's when their kids are out of school. They have all kinds of holidays....and they are way more laid back. A friend of mine in the Netherlands, said the Pres was cool, came to a bar with them and drank a few.....He is a very polite, nice guy, I've talked to him a few times when he visited.

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"Nobody thinks the way that I do, I guess nobody dares. My head's so full of things, I set my mind free of them. I'm breaking the rules, breaking all the rules. " -Ozzy Osbourne

~1~

I do not envy your life until June if your immediate supervisor finds out you're sucking up, not to say it's going to be easy afterwards.

Good luck either way though.

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farmergiles

I always got on with the Dutch, they are very practical.

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BudSniffer

Yeah, I ain't worried about my sup, and he ain't gonna find out til the shit hits the fan. And he is some fat ass lazy country bumpkin. The main 2 I worry about is his boss, which is from NL, but lived most of his life in the US, grade A dick. And the other is the new GM, he started about the same time as the sup 2 yrs ago. He used to be some big shot with FedEx and I think he could be a major factor in all the BS going on. His ass gonna mention in one of our quarterly meetings, how he wanted us to get back on track and bring in the bucks, cause he had 3 mortgages, like he was bragging. If shit gets ugly, I got something on his ass too. Overheard him in the bathroom talking to the finance guy in 2009, how he firmly impressed on the Pres, that they couldn't keep to the travel and expense budget they had put them under. Him and my sup's boss, ain't there half the time, off roaming the fucking world.........I know some of the outside sales folks, always saying how they stay over a day or two, to lay on the beach, when they have to go to South America, and other places. You fuck with me, and I will bust your ass, if at all in my power!

Yeah, I am friends with a lot of the Dutch people in the company emailin' and such. Had a real fine looking lady send me some honey waffels as they call them, back around Jan. Some of the others are a guy that goes fishing in France when he gets the chance and a guy that goes snowboarding in Austria twice a year, the lucky jokers! Wish I could transfer

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"Nobody thinks the way that I do, I guess nobody dares. My head's so full of things, I set my mind free of them. I'm breaking the rules, breaking all the rules. " -Ozzy Osbourne

BudSniffer

Well, ended up a waste of time, not that I am surprised. The prez passed me back to the GM, since he is in NL, and I had a meeting with him today. I didn't take no shit, but he skipped over some of the stuff I brought up, like working us for the last 4 yrs without no overtime pay. When I told him about the sup going off on me, he said, "Haven't you ever went off before?" I said, "Not at work, I am more professional than that, and I won't tolerate it from anyone else either."
Pretty much ended up, he wants me to email the Prez and tell him all is settled, as he plans on doing.....ok........ .. until I quit, then I will write the Prez and tell him the real story, and I was told to write him and say everything was settled. I ain't going to be herded, cajoled, scammed, or pushed into shit, without a trump card.... truth and honesty are my middle names,and I will stand by it... as a sweet mexican lady told me, that quit a couple months ago and now works for a competitor, "Es mejor morir de pie , que vivir de rodillas" or
"it is better to die standing up (literally) than dying laying on your knees").

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"Nobody thinks the way that I do, I guess nobody dares. My head's so full of things, I set my mind free of them. I'm breaking the rules, breaking all the rules. " -Ozzy Osbourne