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Old 04-04-2015, 03:48 AM   #41 (permalink)
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You can't save everyone, some people need to make their own mistakes...... You can either be there when she falls or not, it is her life after all. Its a shitty situation for sure but forcing peoples decisions seldom works out perfectly for everyone in the end. All I can say is good luck and I hope she smartens up before any thing really bad happens.
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listen carefully cuz this is a bit deeper.

the 34 year old guy is a symptom of some crisis the girl is having. He, per se, is not the real problem, the fact that she wants to throw away a good future is.

what you probably have to do is to encourage her to follow her dreams but at the same time persuade her not to throw away her future.

you need to tell her that you have no problem with the guy issue, she has to be allowed to choose who she see's, but you have to make her see that throwing everything away is just plain dumb.

Tell her to go with the guy wherever they want for a month or two and to see how it works out before making such a major commitment. Argue with common sense only and keep the emotions out of it.

Also tell her that you trust her to make the right decision and not to fuck up a bright future because you know that she is clever enough to work things out.
good luck. it's up to you now.
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Old 04-04-2015, 04:34 AM   #43 (permalink)
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bondi, bondi, bondi...

lets be serious, what are the odds of that happening?
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:20 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:44 AM   #45 (permalink)
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bondi, bondi, bondi...

lets be serious, what are the odds of that happening?
I can only give the advice. whether people choose to follow it or not isn't up to me.
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Old 04-04-2015, 10:04 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I'm not sure how many people know about this. As far as I know it's just me and my Brother. If he and I are the only ones she feels she can trust I don't want her to lose that.

So if we do contact the PO she would know it was one of us...

I need to subtly find out if anybody else knows.
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Old 04-04-2015, 10:52 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I think her well being is the priority here. She might hate you for a few years but if it gets her out of an unhealthy relationship...
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Old 04-04-2015, 11:30 AM   #48 (permalink)
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yup cuz none of us ever had unhealthy relationships in our teens that taught us to avoid that shit
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Kitch why dont you advise shadow on how she can turn this in to a proper kitchuation?
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:26 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I already did, sleep with the guy then get jealous of the girl and threaten publicly to burn down her house...

duh.
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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yup cuz none of us ever had unhealthy relationships in our teens that taught us to avoid that shit
You date quite a few abusive dudes with face tats in your day?
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With attempted murder charges don't forget..
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Old 04-04-2015, 04:13 PM   #53 (permalink)
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yeah id say there is a bit of a difference between unhealthy teenage relationships, and a 17 year old dating a 34 yr old convict lol.


just a bit
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^YESSS

At first she told me he was 25 and I was like "oh shit... here we go." And then she asked if I wanted to see a pic and I was like "Ummm...." and then I looked up his Facebook Profile and saw his birth date was 1980 (I was born in 87 ladies and gents. So woah...) and I was like "Oh fuck!"

And then yesterday... I talked to him. Yeah. He actually responded to my message like "What's up... I'm a sleezeball"

He says he loves her and all that bullshit. I asked him what he would do if it was his daughter. Here is a direct quote, copy and pasted...
"I would kill him lol and that's the part that sucks"

He has his claws sunk in her so deep. He has her believing she is just like him. It's disgusting.
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^ you are missing the point. even if you get rid of this guy she will only replace him with someone or something worse. Only by encouraging and supporting her can you play any positive part in this movie.

Let her know that you support her fully. try and invite them over as a couple. Do as many activities with them together. If you have already figured this guy out to be bad news, the more time you all spend together, the more chance she has of seeing things through your eyes.

hell, you got to invite him into the family and make him feel right at home. if he's no good it will become painfully obvious to all.
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Old 04-04-2015, 11:17 PM   #56 (permalink)
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She graduated top of her class? Maybe shes been really studious and disciplined and has put off rebelling and now wants to rebel in a big way since high school is over. Maybe sh'es experiencing a crisis of path choosing, since the pre-planned is over.

There is a bit of a void when you finish high school. Like your whole life was laidf out and now you could do anything and yet you don't know what to do. So an older man who wants to plan things out for you is a safe option (or it seems that way).

Tell her to go to college. She can bang dudes, be a bitch, fail classes, everything. And if its not her thing she can drop out and become a fire fighter.
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^ you are missing the point. even if you get rid of this guy she will only replace him with someone or something worse. Only by encouraging and supporting her can you play any positive part in this movie.

Let her know that you support her fully. try and invite them over as a couple. Do as many activities with them together. If you have already figured this guy out to be bad news, the more time you all spend together, the more chance she has of seeing things through your eyes.

hell, you got to invite him into the family and make him feel right at home. if he's no good it will become painfully obvious to all.
That aqctually might be really good idea. It might be a terrible idea, but I think it would really show her the reality of her situation. A couple double dates where its clear he really doesnt belong (without saying so, letting her realize it).

I'm imagining the dinner conversation... 'So, douche name, your 34 and you live with your folks? Hows that pay? Nice. And your dating a 17 year old? Good job!' He may leave on his own.
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I'll put 100 in the pot of sending kitch directly in to this conflict zone.
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As a parent, i would want a family member with this info to tell me, yes. No question. I would also be passing it along, only after speaking with her about it. She needs to hear the reality of what she is about to do from an adult who cares for her. Dude needs to be in fucking jail.
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Graduating at the top of ones class doesn't automatically make that person a rational thinker.
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