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Old 04-05-2015, 09:34 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Graduating at the top of ones class doesn't automatically make that person a rational thinker.
But it does mean that within them they have a desire to conform to the rules
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i was fucking awful at school.

Sometimes i still get this weird feeling on sunday night that I was supposed to do a bunch of work that i obviously dindu.
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I'm finally going back to school this fall I think.
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She graduated top of her class? Maybe shes been really studious and disciplined and has put off rebelling and now wants to rebel in a big way since high school is over. Maybe sh'es experiencing a crisis of path choosing, since the pre-planned is over.

There is a bit of a void when you finish high school. Like your whole life was laidf out and now you could do anything and yet you don't know what to do. So an older man who wants to plan things out for you is a safe option (or it seems that way).

Tell her to go to college. She can bang dudes, be a bitch, fail classes, everything. And if its not her thing she can drop out and become a fire fighter.
I think not. Schools have changed a lot, and there are hickvilles, but... I grew up in a well bred area. The girls at the top of my class weren't necessarily the strongest psychologically, but to think any would have been seduced by a hardcore loser is unfathomable.

Ability to perform mental tasks well does indicate some mental strength. Intelligence doesn't always, and can even corellate with instability.

Point being I don't have much faith in society, or anyone fucking around. You can't reason with unreasonable people anymore. We live in a world that enables the worst elements to do whatever they want, and we all know what that is.
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She graduated the wildland fire academy, a summer program, at the top of her class. She is still a Jr in High School.
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lol a junior even. So she is like barely 17 then.

You said you found his facebook.
Pics of the face-tat convict dude?
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She graduated the wildland fire academy, a summer program, at the top of her class. She is still a Jr in High School.
Well, then here comes the most important question. What does she look like? Is she overweight, unnatractive...or what? And what does this guy look like? He sounds like the kind of guy that has some primitive alpha qualities that could easily snare a naive girl that is suffering low self esteem.
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shadow says shes gorgeous and shadow aint the type to label a fatty as gorgeous

the girls self esteem clearly comes from the home life + teen angst
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lol a junior even. So she is like barely 17 then.

You said you found his facebook.
Pics of the face-tat convict dude?
quit asking for pics nigga your rights been revoked and i thought someone told you about that already

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psh niggaplz, ive divulged more personal shit here than like 90% of yahooka, along with pics of every girl ive been with.

i shall request as many pics of pedo-convicts as i damn well please
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What is the tattoo on his face of? This is vital information.
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or it could of been a mind trick he said face tattoo and i thought bam mike tyson
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As a father of four daughters, and a friend to someone whose 16 year old ran off with a 45 year old this past late summer, I think I have some perspective.

I agree with the first of Bondi's assumptions, but not at all his advice. There is something amiss with this young lady's head and her understanding of healthy male/female relationships. Not accusing but the most common cause is sexual abuse, and more often than not that happens at home, or in very close proximity to it. Primary care giver fucks their reptilian brain all up and the result is a lifetime of issues. I would seriously consider getting her into EMDR trauma therapy. Relatively cheap, very effective in a high percentage of cases, and often helps faster than aspirin.

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We had an "intervention" of sorts when my oldest daughter took up with a con man of sorts. Not an extreme age difference, just a bad seed that she couldn't see for what he was when she was 27 and the con was about 36 as I recall. Not that I would ever break the law and then write about it on-line, but he had a terrible series of unfortunate events befall him, beginning with a search through Intellius, (a good back ground check service that will also give you family and neighbor info that is quite useful) as well as a day at the local courthouse in the last town where he was from.

Turns out he had skipped out on a wife and two kids in Tennessee, had a judgement in Federal Court, and that the State had a detainer on him for unpaid child support (States are notoriously bad about sharing this info inter-state, which is why so many dead beats move to a different State in the first place). He had claimed that he was a former Delta Force member (those guys would never tell you they were a part of that unit) and that he was exposed to some terrible toxins while "over there", so his current job was in sales (he wanted to meet me to speak to me about investing with him of all things, saying I was a chump because my money wasn't being properly leveraged - I was already comfortably retired).

Through friends and military contacts I learned what he actually was was a cook at Ft. Bennings, where he earned a General discharge for being an all round fuck up, which at the time was pretty hard to do in the Army.

So Mr. Wonderful didn't seem so Alpha Male appealing once the cartilage and ligaments in one knee were destroyed (along with his knee cap I understand). The limp kinda threw him off his game a bit... that, the broken arm, jaw, orbital bone, and collar bone, and bad as his luck already was, someone partially scalped him and crushed his dominant hand. Friends in law enforcement expedited a warrant being forwarded from his home State to have him transported back to Tennessee for a failure to appear on a DUI, as well as the unpaid child support/contempt of court issues. Never seen or heard from him since. We had separated my daughter from him under some subterfuge in order to have an intervention styled meeting with her and let her read copies of the police, court, and back ground information. We also had spoken with his ex-wife, who warned us immediately that he was a POS, and she gratefully agreed (since we informed her of our intentions to see him sent home to face his charges) to speak to my daughter about what a POS he was. She (my daughter) was ultimately grateful and relieved, and at that point began to share that he had begun borrowing money from her here and there, which once she started thinking clearly again, really started to piss her off. So it all ended well for all concerned, except the asshole of course.
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Then there's the friend's step daughter. My bud's live in girl friend's daughter actually, and to be perfectly honest the two of them (Mom and her daughter) were/are a train wreck of epic proportions from the get go, but it got worse. The fucked part was watching it happen. Mom was basically self raised in a house with no Dad and an abusive drunk who would get her drink on while the kids literally starved or stole to eat. Mom's various drinking partners regularly abused her, so she married the first stiff dick that would have her at 17, quickly had her daughter, and soon found herself repeating her mother's path, to the point that her daughter was given to her in-laws to raise due to her own drinking and drug problems. This is the teenager who finally showed up at her door looking for a place to live at age 15, now that her Mom was in a stable relationship with shit like a real home, food, etc. (the in-laws had abused her physically, sexually, and just about every other way you could think of). Her Mom was barely in control of her own bullshit, so trying to help un-fuck her kid was well beyond her capabilities... or interest really.

My wife and I sort of adopted her for about two years, trying to help her see that not all male/female relationships started and ended with abuse and sex. Got her working with the animals and hanging with more age appropriate folks than her Grandfather (who had begun abusing her at age 8). All was well til some skulking fuck showed up around school (she was a high school Junior too at this point, and quite well built physically, but mentally she was about as mature as maybe a thirteen year old). Dream boat was a 45 year old worker at a nearby poultry processing plant, where he gutted chickens all night for something like ten bucks an hour... but "he has a cool car!" (it was something like that pile of shit in the Night Rider TV show, only it didn't talk and the paint was all chipped and faded). Yeah... the guy was a real keeper.

In my mind the only real choice was "wood or aluminum"?... as in bat, and yes it is that simple. Risk reward syndrome. There was no perceived risk, so the predator feels free to take whatever "reward" they desire. It is only by associating that "reward" with a disagreeable outcome that the learning disabled fuck can be properly educated. Psychologists call it "Negative Reinforcement based Behavior Modification", and I think that pretty well sums it up. There are just some people and situations in this world that require an immediate, unflinching, and clinical application of serious physical pain to correct or mitigate, and these are a good example of where that works. Most men can trace their biggest mistakes in life back to something stupid that they did in response to the siren song of vagina, but no pussy on earth is worth having to pee in a bag for the rest of your life.

A 17 year old is not prepared to deal with having to help their Prince Charming change his catheter or empty his colostomy bag. It's hard to be romantic with a cast on your arm, or leg, or both, and long walks on the beach just aren't quite the stuff of story books and romance novels when there are canes, crutches, or wheel chairs involved. She may be crazy about her recent discovery of her first orgasm by oral sex, but the likelihood is that someone else will be filling that void while his jaw's wired up and his skull fractures heal.

The neighbor girl's Mom fucked it all up when she refused to intervene and be a real Mom. She just wanted to be her until recently estranged and abandoned daughter's buddy, and that's the last thing that she needed. It's the last thing that any kid needs.

Middle of the school year the girl left home and moved in with the pedophile. About four months later she had left him for one of his asshole buddies, who was even more of a loser, so much so that I guess he couldn't afford her birth control pills or condoms, so last we heard they are expecting a baby sometime this Spring. She will no doubt be on the street within the next few months, and I don't know that she would ever think to come to us or her mother if and when she needs help, 'cuz all her mother ever did was yell at her and call her a stupid little whore and a dumb cunt when they fought... which ironically is my opinion of her, but I digress.
The circle of abuse remains intact and unbroken.
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Yes, kids need to be able to speak to their parents about everything, and they need to know that no matter how bad they fuck up, there will always be safety and unconditional love for them there at home, but that doesn't mean that people should completely abdicate their responsibilities for setting boundaries and expectations. Kids, teenagers in particular, and teenaged daughters most of all, need to have clear limits set, and there have to be consequences. Love is not easy, and trying to always be your kid's best bud is not doing them any favor, but those consequences have to be proportionate and reasonable. They are after all just kids, and supposedly you love them. It's a juggling act to be sure, and one that most of us are extremely poorly prepared for since most of what we know is what we learned watching how our parents acted... imagine that? Good parents tend to raise good parents, what an amazing coincidence.

Parents need to verbalize even the most seemingly common sense warnings and admonishments... 'cuz teenagers don't have any. Like fender mentioned... they'll still fuck up, but they'll also do so with those warnings ringing in their ears, and while they may not learn the first time, without ever telling you they often live through the first and second or thirty-third fuck ups and eventually "get it".

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Regarding the P.O., some of them, and some States, are more accessible and competent than others. I had a friend turned crack head who got paroled after eight years on a 2nd degree murder beef (beat a guy to death with his bare hands in a bar fight). His little hottie wife had divorced him while he was locked up, but she was living with her Mom and raising their daughter while dealing with cervical cancer. He decided one night that he wanted to exercise his non-existent husbandly rights, so he kicked in the door to her trailer and raped her every way that he could. Then he beat her half to death, spent a couple of hours putting cigarettes out all over her body, between rapes and dragging her around the trailer by her hair, tried to cut off her nipples, and finally left her hemorrhaging on the floor for dead. Oh yeah, he also threw the little girl across the room and knocked her completely unconscious. This guy had previous to the murder beef, worked for me for about eight years as an iron worker. He was about 6'2" and 240 lbs., whereas his ex-wife was maybe 5'4" and a hundred pounds soaking wringing wet.

She literally crawled almost a quarter of a mile to what was miraculously a satellite district court house, down hill from her little trailer park, where there was a magistrate on duty 24/7. Matter of fact, he and the resident security detail were the only ones there when she crawled up to the door, naked and covered in blood. Somehow she and the little girl recovered, but it took almost six fucking months for the violent crimes assholes to find and catch this prick, even though he was living at his parent's house and we would call it in every time we spotted him. His parents got him a good lawyer, and I mean like O.J. good, and he beat everything. His P.O. had steadfastly refused to violate him until the new felony warrants were actually served, and his attorney managed some pretty skeevie shit, and I still think his lawyer must have had pictures of the judge fucking a goat. It was bizarre and disturbing to say the least. That was almost 20 years ago, and today she is happily re-married, their daughter is well, and psycho fuck is working as a janitor at a local high school????? Still an addict.

The moral of that last story is simply that involving the system rarely if ever works, and never as it was intended or as you might have wished, just ask someone who has tried to use it. Better to either ignore it altogether (which doesn't sound plausible in this instance) or commit to doing whatever it takes. There is nothing to be gained in taking half measures.
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Not knowing the personalities and individual dynamics involved make it irresponsible to advise beyond that, but beyond all else I would be honest with the girl about what you think and what you decide to do (unless you decide to "play ball", or have someone pinch hit for you, in which case you will never discuss it with anyone, ever, especially her - just suggest that his prior life karma must have kicked his ass perhaps). Don't blind side her.

As for her care giver, definitely tell them, unless you think there may be a possibility that her behavior could have been triggered by some sort of abuse, 'cuz those kind of "Daddy Issues" usually are. Even in the normal drama filled lives of hormonal teenaged girls, running with grown ass middle aged men is fucked up and wrong, so something else definitely seems amiss.

Last of all, good luck! Mine are all grown, married, and gone, and I'm hoping I'll be dead before my grand daughters hit puberty and put me through that shit again. I love all of my children to death, but I would sooner raise 20 little stinking hog, slovenly sons, than one teenaged girl for a week. They are all fuck nuts crazy.
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In all seriousness and honesty, if this had ever showed up at my front door, I would have offered him a beer... laced with cyanide.

He'd have been on my bait board being butchered and boned like a freshly slaughtered calf within the hour.

The pieces would have been placed in steel weighted crab pots made of cheap chicken wire (dissolve in a couple of years), dropped into holes on the sea floor, without any buoys or floats.

Crushed bones generally don't float, and a steel feed grinder sinks like an anchor.

A little trisodium phosphate and bleach in the pressure washer and we're all through here. Just don't forget the beer bottle (broken glass sinks good) and whatever held the cyanide, along with whatever you used to extract it.

Guns and knives will certainly all work, but with the advent of all of this CSI and DNA stuff, better to keep all of the bodily fluids contained in their original wrapper, at least to a point. Stripped skulls without hair or teeth are just chunks of bone, and a torso without a head is, well, about the same.

Also, making a wallet out of his face would not be advisable (although certainly interesting), but I hear that the soap made from his hands, face, and ass would no longer contain any viable DNA, so it's not a total loss.
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Hey Shadow.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation, and how it's so eerily similar to the tragedy that happened with this woman's sister.

I approached YaHooka not long ago with concerns about how to advise my younger cousin who was in an unhealthy relationship with an older man, and had no where to live.

I gently spoke my opinion to her, offering alternatives to her situation. I told her what I would do, and what my experience was with my ex.
She made her own decision, and decided to move back with her family.

Ultimately it will be up to her, but helping her to feel understood I think is important. The more resistance she feels about the situation, the more likely she will feel like she is not being heard, that her feelings don't matter. She may believe that the man she is with is the only one who cares about her feelings. Talk to her, maybe if she feels safe with you she will share with you what she sees in the relationship and why it is important to her.

I wish you and your family the very best.
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In all seriousness and honesty, if this had ever showed up at my front door, I would have offered him a beer... laced with cyanide.

He'd have been on my bait board being butchered and boned like a freshly slaughtered calf within the hour.

The pieces would have been placed in steel weighted crab pots made of cheap chicken wire (dissolve in a couple of years), dropped into holes on the sea floor, without any buoys or floats.

Crushed bones generally don't float, and a steel feed grinder sinks like an anchor.

A little trisodium phosphate and bleach in the pressure washer and we're all through here. Just don't forget the beer bottle (broken glass sinks good) and whatever held the cyanide, along with whatever you used to extract it.

Guns and knives will certainly all work, but with the advent of all of this CSI and DNA stuff, better to keep all of the bodily fluids contained in their original wrapper, at least to a point. Stripped skulls without hair or teeth are just chunks of bone, and a torso without a head is, well, about the same.

Also, making a wallet out of his face would not be advisable (although certainly interesting), but I hear that the soap made from his hands, face, and ass would no longer contain any viable DNA, so it's not a total loss.
You've given this way too much thought.



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