Taken your flu shot yet ? - Page 2

verklingen · 10-06-2009, 01:48 PM

ugh i hate to bog this thread down further but look at the "interesting" discussion elicited by flappy's presence in kameelyun's police state thread, where 2 full pages of incessant blathering has ensued. why am i letting these people bother me so. . . i've been told that i may not actually exist, that i don't respect other peoples' opinions, that i don't think for myself, etc. it should roll off my back but the continual insistence defeats my usual sense at times. i at least remain pertinent to the thread or at least topics regarding the thread at all times, and i suppose it is too much to ask for even something resembling a discussion be had in a discussion forum.

my_scatterheart · 10-06-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verklingen

ugh i hate to bog this thread down further

So don't

verklingen · 10-06-2009, 01:51 PM

you never do anything you hate? i liked reiterating my concerns more, how's that?

my_scatterheart · 10-06-2009, 01:54 PM

I can't think of anything I hate. But if I could, I'd imagine I wouldn't waste my time doing it.
It's great, thank you.

verklingen · 10-06-2009, 01:57 PM

hate's a strong word i s'pose. damn desensitizing of language, i fuckin hate it!

flappy · 10-06-2009, 03:39 PM

I like what Sage Tree has to say. I've always tried to take the high road.

missymousy · 11-02-2009, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flappy

My problem is with parents who allow their children to be given over 15 vaccinations by age 18 months .
The government lies to us 24/7 about everything and so does their affiliate the American Medical Association...why do we believe them when it comes to shots ?
Anyone with an autistic child knows the relationship between the 18 month shots and the first signs of autism.

This is why my baby is not only not getting the H1N1 shot, but I am also not going to give her the MMR vaccine, which she would be due for in a few weeks. I am going to wait until she is older and her immune system is more mature. Why take the risk?? Why do we feel the need to fuck with the immune systems of our wee children?? That's what breastmilk is for!!! Granted I let her have the other shots so far, but the last ones made her really sick and that is it! No more!!

kitch · 11-02-2009, 02:06 PM

youse guys are paranoid, I got my seasonal already and I'm getting my H1N1 ASAP, can't afford to get sick.

missymousy · 11-02-2009, 02:45 PM

I don't think it's paranoia... It is a risk-benefit analysis in which potential risks are compared to potential gains. I get that you don't want to get sick, and I think vaccines have thier place for certain people, but I never get flu, I never get sick and niether does my baby so i figure why risk it?

It's worthwhile to read up on it because it's true that there is a lot of money to be made by the pharmacuetical industry in regards to this mass vaccination program. Recognizing that money is a huge factor in the public health protocols which our governments promote an adhere to is simply being truthful about the nature of the medical system in a capitalist system. To do otherwise would be foolish.

missymousy · 11-02-2009, 02:59 PM

Reviews of various methods which are supposed to prevent infulenza:

The Cochrane Collaboration - Cochrane Influenza Resources: evidence from Cochrane Reviews

uppro Gurman · 01-27-2010, 06:56 PM

So me and my buddies where passin by the clinic where they were givin flu shots. Back in November, I guess. When they figured we came not to get a flu shot, but for the information about it, first lady started propaganda as a robot. Well, we were not ready for this visit, i mean, we randomly saw the clinic, while passin by and decided to check that ish out. So we go, if there's any fatalities from the shot? To which we got straight up funny answer: No, u don't die if u take a shot. U die if u don't!" Kinda radical. Then the nurse came to answer our questions. And she said simply: The vaccine is a personal decision, so information about it is confidential as well and is not opened to public. So what she meant, she can't say "yes" and she can't say "no". Our argument was, that information about shots is being revealed to a public but in a way of "get a flu shot, it helped so many people", as a good thing. That pushed my question that, IF vaccine DOES kill people or have any NEGATIVE effects, would they be allowed to disclose this information? To which we got a smile and a gentle warm answer "i wouldnt be allowed, guys, but do u mind? we got a lot of people waitin for their shot, i must go".
On the other hand- this vaccine can't be trusted simply because their manufacturers (Baxters Pharmaceutical) are know for making those vaccines back in 70's, which killed and disabled several hundred people.
Another funny fact is that DOCTORS GET 27.5$ for each shot they give out in their clinic.
So it's not only that governments wasted money on buyin this poison, they are paying YOUR DOCTOR to give you the shot. That is fokked, must say.
I personally encountered twice the negative effect of flu shots- my coworker's leg got paralized several days after the swine flushot. Doesn't hurt, just can't bend it no more. Perfectly healthy grown up man. Leg is fokked. What to do? Can't sue the company, can't sue the clinic, CAN CLAIM COMPENSATION from the government. Second case- usual flu shot. 4 year old kid died. Enough said. All dem health-system businessmen will not be in peace after dem organisms collapse

apathybullet · 01-28-2010, 04:53 AM

Step 1: Infect a random demographic with h1n1
Step 2: Announce a "vaccine"
step 3: Make a batch of the vaccine with higher-than-usual quantities of the virus, enough to infect someone if recieved.
Step 4: Throw a little of this batch into every shipment
Step 5: People in the recieving branches don't know of this happening, so they just inject what they have
Step 6: Patients are infected at random
Step 7: This will no doubt kill of some elderly and some children.
Step 8: The government toasts their glasses to yet another successful operation.

Just kidding, but it would sure pass for a screenplay.

...or am I kidding?

By the way, I said "fuck the vaccine" from the beginning. Why? Gut instinct.

missymousy · 01-28-2010, 12:48 PM

It's very ironic that now they are saying "gee shucks this 'pandemic' sure wasn't as big and scary as we thought it would be, and now we have way too many vaccines..."

So glad more than half the Canadian population was smart enough not to bother getting the vaccine. Although before buying enough for everyone and assuming we'd all go along like sheep, they should ahve seen what the actual demand was. *sigh*

i hope they change the criteria for 'pandemic' status back to what it was to prevent this from happening again. In the meantime, BigPharma made tons of (taxpaper) money, a bunch of people got sick from the vaccine, and fear was spread among the masses. Mission accomplished.

10-06-2009, 01:48 PM	#21 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	ugh i hate to bog this thread down further but look at the "interesting" discussion elicited by flappy's presence in kameelyun's police state thread, where 2 full pages of incessant blathering has ensued. why am i letting these people bother me so. . . i've been told that i may not actually exist, that i don't respect other peoples' opinions, that i don't think for myself, etc. it should roll off my back but the continual insistence defeats my usual sense at times. i at least remain pertinent to the thread or at least topics regarding the thread at all times, and i suppose it is too much to ask for even something resembling a discussion be had in a discussion forum. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

10-06-2009, 01:51 PM	#23 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	you never do anything you hate? i liked reiterating my concerns more, how's that? __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

10-06-2009, 01:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 4,065 Thanks: 1,300 Thanked 2,713 Times in 1,579 Posts	I can't think of anything I hate. But if I could, I'd imagine I wouldn't waste my time doing it. It's great, thank you. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega

10-06-2009, 01:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	hate's a strong word i s'pose. damn desensitizing of language, i fuckin hate it! __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

10-06-2009, 03:39 PM	#26 (permalink)
flappy YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 807 Thanks: 48 Thanked 102 Times in 85 Posts	I like what Sage Tree has to say. I've always tried to take the high road. __________________ <> <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> <>

11-02-2009, 02:45 PM	#29 (permalink)
missymousy Momma Hippy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 15 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I don't think it's paranoia... It is a risk-benefit analysis in which potential risks are compared to potential gains. I get that you don't want to get sick, and I think vaccines have thier place for certain people, but I never get flu, I never get sick and niether does my baby so i figure why risk it? It's worthwhile to read up on it because it's true that there is a lot of money to be made by the pharmacuetical industry in regards to this mass vaccination program. Recognizing that money is a huge factor in the public health protocols which our governments promote an adhere to is simply being truthful about the nature of the medical system in a capitalist system. To do otherwise would be foolish. __________________ -Living life for the sake of living -Hoping I'll have made a difference -Power'd by love and baby smiles -I'll always go that extra mile Sunshine & Rainbows Forever -Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it!-

11-02-2009, 02:59 PM	#30 (permalink)
missymousy Momma Hippy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 15 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Reviews of various methods which are supposed to prevent infulenza: The Cochrane Collaboration - Cochrane Influenza Resources: evidence from Cochrane Reviews __________________ -Living life for the sake of living -Hoping I'll have made a difference -Power'd by love and baby smiles -I'll always go that extra mile Sunshine & Rainbows Forever -Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it!-

01-27-2010, 06:56 PM	#31 (permalink)
uppro Gurman YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: where do i live? Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So me and my buddies where passin by the clinic where they were givin flu shots. Back in November, I guess. When they figured we came not to get a flu shot, but for the information about it, first lady started propaganda as a robot. Well, we were not ready for this visit, i mean, we randomly saw the clinic, while passin by and decided to check that ish out. So we go, if there's any fatalities from the shot? To which we got straight up funny answer: No, u don't die if u take a shot. U die if u don't!" Kinda radical. Then the nurse came to answer our questions. And she said simply: The vaccine is a personal decision, so information about it is confidential as well and is not opened to public. So what she meant, she can't say "yes" and she can't say "no". Our argument was, that information about shots is being revealed to a public but in a way of "get a flu shot, it helped so many people", as a good thing. That pushed my question that, IF vaccine DOES kill people or have any NEGATIVE effects, would they be allowed to disclose this information? To which we got a smile and a gentle warm answer "i wouldnt be allowed, guys, but do u mind? we got a lot of people waitin for their shot, i must go". On the other hand- this vaccine can't be trusted simply because their manufacturers (Baxters Pharmaceutical) are know for making those vaccines back in 70's, which killed and disabled several hundred people. Another funny fact is that DOCTORS GET 27.5$ for each shot they give out in their clinic. So it's not only that governments wasted money on buyin this poison, they are paying YOUR DOCTOR to give you the shot. That is fokked, must say. I personally encountered twice the negative effect of flu shots- my coworker's leg got paralized several days after the swine flushot. Doesn't hurt, just can't bend it no more. Perfectly healthy grown up man. Leg is fokked. What to do? Can't sue the company, can't sue the clinic, CAN CLAIM COMPENSATION from the government. Second case- usual flu shot. 4 year old kid died. Enough said. All dem health-system businessmen will not be in peace after dem organisms collapse

01-28-2010, 04:53 AM	#32 (permalink)
apathybullet Broken Robot Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 10 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Step 1: Infect a random demographic with h1n1 Step 2: Announce a "vaccine" step 3: Make a batch of the vaccine with higher-than-usual quantities of the virus, enough to infect someone if recieved. Step 4: Throw a little of this batch into every shipment Step 5: People in the recieving branches don't know of this happening, so they just inject what they have Step 6: Patients are infected at random Step 7: This will no doubt kill of some elderly and some children. Step 8: The government toasts their glasses to yet another successful operation. Just kidding, but it would sure pass for a screenplay. ...or am I kidding? By the way, I said "fuck the vaccine" from the beginning. Why? Gut instinct.

01-28-2010, 12:48 PM	#33 (permalink)
missymousy Momma Hippy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 15 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	It's very ironic that now they are saying "gee shucks this 'pandemic' sure wasn't as big and scary as we thought it would be, and now we have way too many vaccines..." So glad more than half the Canadian population was smart enough not to bother getting the vaccine. Although before buying enough for everyone and assuming we'd all go along like sheep, they should ahve seen what the actual demand was. sigh i hope they change the criteria for 'pandemic' status back to what it was to prevent this from happening again. In the meantime, BigPharma made tons of (taxpaper) money, a bunch of people got sick from the vaccine, and fear was spread among the masses. Mission accomplished. __________________ -Living life for the sake of living -Hoping I'll have made a difference -Power'd by love and baby smiles -I'll always go that extra mile Sunshine & Rainbows Forever -Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it!-

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