Doctors can't figure it out

Gravity_Loss · 10-07-2010, 02:53 PM

Any medical personnel here? I need some advice.

When I was around 7-8 I started dry heaving one day and it didn't stop. I had 3 doctors run tests on me (mostly upper GI's where I had to drink Borium and get x-rayed) and none of them every came up with a solution or treatment that worked.

Fast forward 16 years. I still have chronic nausea, I still dry heave 10-12 times a day, and occasionally I randomly throw up without warning. Where it hasn't effected my social or professional life, it is still a pretty big pain in my ass.

Pepto doesn't do anything, ulcer medicine didn't work, anti depressents make it worse, and anti anxiety medicine (all prescribed) just made me veg out and still feel shitty. Smoking pot recreationially always fixed the problem, but an hour or two after the weed wore off, I started feeling ill again.

I know this will get me MMJ in applicable states, but since I don't live in one, could anyone think of something else that is more widely legal to suggest to my doctor? Even if I move to a MMJ state, I will be working with an aircraft company that drug tests and I have yet to find out what their policy on medical marijuana is.

It sucks going through life feeling ill all the time and not being able to do a damn thing about it.

José · 10-07-2010, 03:07 PM

It sounds like gastroesophageal reflux disease to me.

farmergiles · 10-07-2010, 03:08 PM

Damn how crazy is it you can't get a weed scrip

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Sugar420 · 10-07-2010, 03:11 PM

wow that sounds like a real bummer

while im not a medical person i cant help thinking you issue may be brain related or neurological in nature. have you had a brain scan and neuro workup?
i wish i had more to suggest, but i mostly wanted to post to say i feel for you and please dont give up hope on getting better. and also ima pray God bless you and deliver you out of your sufferation

osirus2020 · 10-07-2010, 05:09 PM

The members of YaHooka are all doctors after a few beers.

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Dronabinol [Marinol] is used to treat nausea and vomiting caused by chemotherapy in people who have already taken other medications to treat this type of nausea and vomiting without good results. Dronabinol is also used to treat loss of appetite and weight loss in people who have acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS). Dronabinol is in a class of medications called cannabinoids. It works by affecting the area of the brain that controls nausea, vomiting, and appetite.

From what I here it's made from pot, just doesn't get you high.

Gravity_Loss · 10-07-2010, 06:14 PM

Wow, thanks for the support and input!

No, I haven't had any neuro work done, but that is a possibility. My favorite diagnosis from a doctor was, "I think your insides are spasming or something". Yes, a doctor said that to me, lol.

Won't a derivative of a cannabinoid cause me to fail a urine test? I can't smoke because the company I will be working for doesn't recognize ANY cannabis as medicinal and will still fire you for it, prescription or not.

I'll probably just end up dealing with it for the next 40 years and go back to smoking when I retire. I still can't comprehend why the stuff is still illegal... So many years of research and successful treatment wasted by a handful of idiots.

Maybe I could interest NORML or something on the subject. I wonder of they have had any dealings with the aviation field.

PS, a night of completely legal drinking makes me a dangerous worker but a night of smoking only ensures that I got a good night sleep and made it to work refreshed and well rested.

Gravity_Loss · 10-07-2010, 06:16 PM

@ Spanky, never had heartburn or anything of the sort in my life. I thought the same thing and the meds for it don't even touch the problem.

Rubix · 10-07-2010, 09:50 PM

Wow, that must be something to deal with, with it always on your mind and what not..pulled this from a health website if you're interested

nothing too new, but

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Originally Posted by http://www.home-remedies-for-you.com/askquestion/47293/home-remedy-for-dry-heaving-i-will-get-a-tight-fee.html

It tends to come in waves and you find yourself spitting out saliva and bile at times. It can also be accompanied by stomach indigestion, dry mouth and throat, chest pain or acid reflux. An acid reflux problem occurs when gastric juices from the stomach rise up into the esophagus. Acid reflux typically also causes heartburn. Other symptoms that may accompany dry heaves include abdominal pain, poor appetite, chronic and inexplicable choking and coughing, and deterioration in taste or even a constant unpleasant taste in the mouth. An empty stomach or food poisoning can be a cause of dry heaving. Low blood sugar can also trigger off a dry heaving spell. Anxiety can also be a trigger as it causes nervous reactions in the body, dry mouth and hence dry heaves

Some of the remedies to reduce the occurrence of dry heaves are to chew with your mouth closed and to not talk while you are eating. Avoid drinking fizzy drinks like beer, carbonated drinks, soda. Avoid drinking from a bottle or can. Avoid using a straw. Also avoiding foods with high air content like ice-cream, whipped cream and omelets will help. Make it a habit not to gulp down air while eating your food. Being alert and more careful will reduce the occurrence of this problem. At times dry heaving can occur before or when one undergoes psychological pressures which can include anxiety over something or a claustrophobic situation. So taking suitable measures to reduce stress and anxiety can help. Sometimes eating saltines, yogurt or bananas right after you get up in the morning or even while still in bed can help reduce the occurrence of dry heaves. Try eating pickled ginger or freeze dried ginger caps.

Other steps to take would be to ensure that you get a good night sleep on a regular basis. At times dry heaving can occur before or when one undergoes psychological pressures which can include anxiety over something or a claustrophobic situation. So take suitable measures to reduce stress and anxiety by engaging in relaxing activities.

maszac · 10-08-2010, 04:24 PM

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The long, but dumbed down answer,

Marinol IS THC. It is purely the trans-variant isomer. You might be wondering, what does all those fancy words mean? I say, take a year of organic chemistry and you'll be more than familiar. But, back to business...

Marijuana, like all other plants, produces chemicals, like THC for example! When the mechanisms that arrange these complex chemical structures do there work, they often create a different 'conformation', which will differ only by the angle by which one little atom protrudes from the molecule. In overly simplified terms, you have either a 'trans' or a 'cis' shape. Both are almost always produced in nature and in the lab.

Well, in the lab where Marinol is 'made', they are only filtering out the trans versions of THC from the cis. This achieves the status of 'synthetic' because the THC has now been touched by the (dis)graces of man's hand- an intervention if you will. Even then, it is still awfully close to a natural sample of THC derived directly from the plant because it produces one conformor preferentially over the other- and if you're still following along, you'll know that we're talking about the trans conformor in this case. Why would they waste time doing it the other way around if trans is already the most abundant? Ha, trick question- they wouldn't!

To summarize, Marinol is THC... and indistinguishable without the use of spectroscopy. Will they test using this 'spectroscopy' thing that I speak of? HELL NO. This equipment (and the time it takes to run the test after having already taken the time to isolate the THC from the blood, hair, or urine would be in the many thousands of dollars on a good day and tens of thousands is most cases).

Comparing THC and marinol in the lab would be much like comparing the chemical equivalency of two chips of paint from the same wall- almost identical and almost unprovably so.

steadyhealth.com

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It's synthetic THC, so yes it will.

However! You might be able to get away with Marinol because you've probably got a prescription for it--if you're doing THC to get high it's easier to get real pot. If you've got a prescription for synthetic THC they'll figure your THC positive is because of the Marinol. So...make sure to always carry your prescription with you.

wiki answers

the general consensus is yes. i would suggest maybe talking to the company after consulting a doctor about marinol but then it may weird the company out you know the effects of thc help.

Gravity_Loss · 10-08-2010, 09:17 PM

Went to a doctor today, he seems confident that it is gastritis. Problem is, I don't really think that is a problem because it is normally associated with alcoholism and I haven't had a drink in like 5 months, and I really have never been a big drinker anyways. They are putting me on Prilosec for 2 weeks the reduce the amount of stomach acid I am producing so they can jam a camera down my throat and look around. They will probably put me on a laundry list of anti depressants, which I have been prescribed most of my life but have NEVER been diagnosed with depression.

Basically he thinks my stomach is trying to eat itself, which may be true, but heartburn medicine has never done anything for me. I'll keep my hopes up this time, but I wouldn't be suprised if this ended up inconclusive again.

I have brought up Marinol a few times throughout this journy, but the common response is, "Fat chance unless you get AIDS or cancer".

fenderbender · 10-09-2010, 04:08 AM

Dude, i woulda offed myself long ago if i was you... Dry heaving is one of the worst feelings...and to have that all the time.. DAMN

good luck brother. Hope you figure something out.

my only recommendation is to get off those anti-depressants. Doctors are just feeding them to you so you are a little more ok with how shitty of a job they are doing.

House could figure this out...

my_scatterheart · 10-09-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravity_Loss

Went to a doctor today, he seems confident that it is gastritis. Problem is, I don't really think that is a problem because it is normally associated with alcoholism and I haven't had a drink in like 5 months, and I really have never been a big drinker anyways. They are putting me on Prilosec for 2 weeks the reduce the amount of stomach acid I am producing so they can jam a camera down my throat and look around. They will probably put me on a laundry list of anti depressants, which I have been prescribed most of my life but have NEVER been diagnosed with depression.

Basically he thinks my stomach is trying to eat itself, which may be true, but heartburn medicine has never done anything for me. I'll keep my hopes up this time, but I wouldn't be suprised if this ended up inconclusive again.

I have brought up Marinol a few times throughout this journy, but the common response is, "Fat chance unless you get AIDS or cancer".

Don't be too skeptical man. Gastritis has like a bajillion possible ways to come about, not just the most publicized/alcohol.

10-07-2010, 02:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gravity_Loss What constitution? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Doctors can't figure it out Any medical personnel here? I need some advice. When I was around 7-8 I started dry heaving one day and it didn't stop. I had 3 doctors run tests on me (mostly upper GI's where I had to drink Borium and get x-rayed) and none of them every came up with a solution or treatment that worked. Fast forward 16 years. I still have chronic nausea, I still dry heave 10-12 times a day, and occasionally I randomly throw up without warning. Where it hasn't effected my social or professional life, it is still a pretty big pain in my ass. Pepto doesn't do anything, ulcer medicine didn't work, anti depressents make it worse, and anti anxiety medicine (all prescribed) just made me veg out and still feel shitty. Smoking pot recreationially always fixed the problem, but an hour or two after the weed wore off, I started feeling ill again. I know this will get me MMJ in applicable states, but since I don't live in one, could anyone think of something else that is more widely legal to suggest to my doctor? Even if I move to a MMJ state, I will be working with an aircraft company that drug tests and I have yet to find out what their policy on medical marijuana is. It sucks going through life feeling ill all the time and not being able to do a damn thing about it. __________________ Genesis 1:29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the Earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.” Reason is the mind's awarness of itself. --- Zen ..)

10-07-2010, 03:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,802 Thanks: 2,281 Thanked 3,748 Times in 2,553 Posts	Damn how crazy is it you can't get a weed scrip . __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

10-07-2010, 06:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gravity_Loss What constitution? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Wow, thanks for the support and input! No, I haven't had any neuro work done, but that is a possibility. My favorite diagnosis from a doctor was, "I think your insides are spasming or something". Yes, a doctor said that to me, lol. Won't a derivative of a cannabinoid cause me to fail a urine test? I can't smoke because the company I will be working for doesn't recognize ANY cannabis as medicinal and will still fire you for it, prescription or not. I'll probably just end up dealing with it for the next 40 years and go back to smoking when I retire. I still can't comprehend why the stuff is still illegal... So many years of research and successful treatment wasted by a handful of idiots. Maybe I could interest NORML or something on the subject. I wonder of they have had any dealings with the aviation field. PS, a night of completely legal drinking makes me a dangerous worker but a night of smoking only ensures that I got a good night sleep and made it to work refreshed and well rested. __________________ Genesis 1:29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the Earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.” Reason is the mind's awarness of itself. --- Zen ..)

10-07-2010, 06:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gravity_Loss What constitution? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	@ Spanky, never had heartburn or anything of the sort in my life. I thought the same thing and the meds for it don't even touch the problem. __________________ Genesis 1:29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the Earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.” Reason is the mind's awarness of itself. --- Zen ..)

10-08-2010, 09:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gravity_Loss What constitution? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Went to a doctor today, he seems confident that it is gastritis. Problem is, I don't really think that is a problem because it is normally associated with alcoholism and I haven't had a drink in like 5 months, and I really have never been a big drinker anyways. They are putting me on Prilosec for 2 weeks the reduce the amount of stomach acid I am producing so they can jam a camera down my throat and look around. They will probably put me on a laundry list of anti depressants, which I have been prescribed most of my life but have NEVER been diagnosed with depression. Basically he thinks my stomach is trying to eat itself, which may be true, but heartburn medicine has never done anything for me. I'll keep my hopes up this time, but I wouldn't be suprised if this ended up inconclusive again. I have brought up Marinol a few times throughout this journy, but the common response is, "Fat chance unless you get AIDS or cancer". __________________ Genesis 1:29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the Earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.” Reason is the mind's awarness of itself. --- Zen ..)

10-07-2010, 03:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,364 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	It sounds like gastroesophageal reflux disease to me.

10-07-2010, 03:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sugar420 Freedom Bird Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,138 Thanks: 41 Thanked 182 Times in 732 Posts	wow that sounds like a real bummer while im not a medical person i cant help thinking you issue may be brain related or neurological in nature. have you had a brain scan and neuro workup? i wish i had more to suggest, but i mostly wanted to post to say i feel for you and please dont give up hope on getting better. and also ima pray God bless you and deliver you out of your sufferation

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