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Old 06-16-2013, 06:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are you still using a microwve oven?

Check this out, Russia banned microwaves in 1976!

Are You Still Using A Microwave Oven?
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes I still use a microwave. No I don't buy into poorly written sensationalism.

Microwave ovens are bad because hot milk can scald a baby and 'radioactive gases' (aka steam) can cause a bottle to explode? Give me a break. I can buy that microwaving food can make it less nutritional, but I'm pretty sure that's true of heat in general (re: all cooking). That article keeps using radiation as a scare word, but all cooking involves some form of radiation..
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Xil come on the radiation from a stove is nothing like micro wave. Your cell phone is more closely related to a micro wave... On that note a microwave can be very handy.... Heating water for tea, some fodd uf uou ate un a rush, but microwaves really fuck up left overs, i really try to wait the 20 minutes to heat it in the oven.
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Ya I guess it's not completely like simple heat radiation, it's more like radio waves or IR light; both of these are all around us every day. That being said, plastics leaching into your food is, I believe, a pretty real risk. I don't use anything in a microwave I wouldn't also smoke out of. ALL plastics and metals are right out. Pyrex and other glasses are in.

Also I didn't mean to imply that microwaves are the same as the (heat) radiation from a stove, merely that ALL heat destroys nutrition, not microwaves in particular.
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Also I didn't mean to imply that microwaves are the same as the (heat) radiation from a stove, merely that ALL heat destroys nutrition, not microwaves in particular.
Ok that makes more sense... I apologize if it sounded like i was attacking, i just know you are smarter then that'
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Nah man your gravy. To tell the truth I really done know all that much about microwaves/radiation, just what ive picked up here and there. That article just seemed a bit fishy to me.
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I haveny read the article yet
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We haven't had a microwave since 2002.

Not because of the hype, but because we just don't give a fuck to have one.
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never use it. Not really because of microwaves being bad, but moreso food cooked in a microwave sucks balls and id rather wait 10-20 minutes and do it up in the oven or on a skillet.
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i don't have a stove so yeah i microwave shit
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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toaster ovens > microwaves
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I actually just kinda skimmed over the article...we use ours, but very little and I want to do away with it. Not sure if a toaster oven, or one of them convection ovens, I don't know much about 'em yet.

I do know heating anything plastic in it releases chemicals in your food, do a search on it from Mayo clinic. I have heard they change the molecules in your food, so it is less healthy...
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my microwave sits unplugged most of the time, only have one cuz i inherited it from the last person who lived here

tea kettle for boiling water, presses for coffee and espresso

and yea i agree the oven does a much better job on the re-heats
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Ya I guess it's not completely like simple heat radiation, it's more like radio waves or IR light; both of these are all around us every day.
Bro do your homework.

The waves generated are MICROWAVES (big surprise), which are EM waves like radio or light.

However, the frequencies of these waves are relative to the electric dipole of water molecules (remember highschool? water is polar?). A faster frequency does not give water enough time to respond with movement, and thusly does not impart kinetic energy in the form of heat to the water. Similarily, a much slower frequency wave would not cause any affect on the water molecules. The ovens use a specific frequency that forces water to rotate, imparting heat.

A microwave oven then, intuitively, should be more likely to damage an organism that is primarily water than another EM source like a radio tower.

I'm not jumping on either side of the fence here, but don't exclude dangers of a technology just because its convenient.


Also, toaster ovens FTW.
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I have heard they change the molecules in your food, so it is less healthy...
cooking anything in any fashion is a chemical reaction. Many different compounds are created and destroyed in the process of cooking something. A lot of the time it seems to lessen the amount of nutrients available when compared to the food in its raw state.


while i cant say for sure as i have not looked into it all that much, i could see microwaves causing this to occur more than its counterparts.


dont really think there is much more to the harmful aspect of microwaves than that?




either way, microwaved food tastes like shit and you have to be a mega-lazy and impatient asshole to use one. or retarded.
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First of all. This article is a plagiarized rewrite of one written and circulated around the internet in the early 2000s that was rife with conspiracy theories, poor writing and language meant to automatically instill fear. Supposedly the article originated as a forum post on a conspiracy theory community.

Also, like Xil said, the mere act of heating something changes its molecular structure. This is not a bad thing, this is not a good thing, this is simply a fact stated in a way to cause fear.

"The Soviet government banned microwaves in 1976"
Right, because everything the Soviets did during that period was for the betterment of the populace, and not as some sort of 'Fuck You' to capitalist excess that is associated with a box that plugs into a wall and cooks all of your food when a fire and an oven will do the same for your potatoes and gruel.
Also I'm pretty sure any information they based this on was from tests done in the 50s that involved shooting microwaves directly at living beings, and not from tests on food cooked in a box that's built to protect you from the potentially dangerous microwave radiation.
Also there is no country in the world that bans microwaves now.

Microwaves are essentially radio waves and you've been consistently bombarded by them literally every moment of your life. As long as you're not like hugging the box as it cooks, or rigging it to stay open while it cooks and holding your arm in it, you're going to be fine.

Now to break it down point-by-point

1. Microwaves Are Harmful For Baby Food
So don't fucking heat it til it boils you fucking retard. If you don't test the temperature of the food before you give it to your infant you're a fucking bad parent and blaming the heating utensil is wrong.

2. Microwaves Can Destroy Your Blood
So don't microwave your blood you fucking idiot. Why would this even be on the list? The nurse used obviously improper steps and a person died for it. That's criminal negligence or medical malpractice, not the microwave's fault.

3. Microwaves Reduces Hemoglobin Levels
First of all, to make any decision based on what a study of a mere 8 people finds is inane.
Secondly, this information is attributed to a study done by scientists "Raum and Zelt in 1992"
There are absolutely Zero peer reviewed articles by any scientists under that name and another debunker on Snopes did a lot more googling (in 2002) and found that Raum and Zelt is actually a misunderstanding (perhaps an outright lie) and it's actually Raum & Zeit which was a German magazine that changed it's name to Explore! and the study was merely a bunch of vegetarians chilling in a hotel for a few week in Switzerland in the late 80s, some eating microwaved food, some not.
The "study" was performed by (as well as participated in- he was one of the 8) Swiss food chemist Hans Hertel and every single one of the claims he puts forward has yet to be substantiated, over 20 years later.
Additionally the publication Raum & Zeit/Explore! is "devoted to putting in front of the discriminating public, quality reliable information from the cutting edge of Alternative and Holistic Medicine, Nutritional Therapies, Energy Medicine, Homeopathy and Physics."
So fuck that part entirely because it's a load of horseshit.

4. Microwaved Food Can Cause Cancer
Oh look, here's our old friend Hans Herte again, points 3 and 4 are actually just split out of the same study.
Again, this was a study done over a few weeks, with an insanely small test group, by an untrained, biased man who also participated in the study itself, and none of the data has ever been released, and none of his findings have ever been replicated.

That whole list is bullshit.

The only reason microwave ovens aren't the 'preferred method of cooking' is because the fucking waves can't penetrate more than an inch or so, so it doesn't fully cook the food.

Yes, microwaving plastic is bad for you - if you don't use microwave safe plastic.
If you use microwave safe plastic in the microwave, it's safe; and I know this because it's microwave safe plastic, which is a kind of plastic that was created to be used safely in a microwave.

Microwave cooking does nothing more than impart energy into the rotational motion of water molecules.
That's it.
End of story.

If you're worried about cancer, look at the processed foods that are generally cooked in a microwave, that's more likely the problem, not the way you heat it up.
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You could have a stroke in a swimming pool and drown.
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Living life with fear is foolish.

So go nuke your fucking leftovers and smoke a fucking bowl.
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so bearsy apparently uses the microwave quite frequently..
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so bearsy apparently uses the microwave quite frequently..
So that must be the glow in the sky I saw

How Microwaves cook food

http://news.psu.edu/story/141277/200...aves-cook-food
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I wonder if russia banned them mostly because they weren't producing any themselves.
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That's what I suggested. They just didn't want them being purchased from the great capitalist devils and they didn't have the means to make their own. If there were a bunch of Soviet factories churning out microwave they never would have been banned.

And although I generally don't use my microwave, I have no problems with using it when I'm in a rush.
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