One In Five High Schools Piss Taste Students

DdC · 09-29-2008, 01:30 AM

Survey: One In Five High Schools Drug Test Students
September 25, 2008 - Washington, DC

Washington, DC: An estimated one in five high schools and one in ten middle schools engage in some form of student drug testing - including random testing, according to survey data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and published in the fall issue of Strategies for Success, a newsletter of the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP).

"Findings indicate that the number of schools conducting … drug testing may be [approximately] 4,000 - more than double the highest estimates cited previously," the ONDCP reported.

In all, 14.6 percent of all public and private middle schools and high schools now conduct some type of student drug testing, the CDC's School Health Policies and Programs study found. Slightly more than 50 percent of these schools reported conducted random drug testing among specific groups of students.

Of the schools that drug test, 84 percent utilize urinalysis - a method that detects the presence of inactive drug metabolites, but does not have the ability to determine recent drug use or impairment. Fifteen percent of schools employ hair follicle testing, the study reported. Eight percent use saliva testing, and three percent use sweat patch testing technology.

Of the drugs screened for, 86 percent of schools test for the presence of marijuana. By contrast, 75 percent of school drug testing programs screen for cocaine, 50 percent screen for alcohol, and fewer than 20 percent test for nicotine.

Last year the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) Council on School Health resolved, "There is little evidence of the effectiveness of school-based drug testing," and warned that students subjected to random testing programs may experience "an increase in known risk factors for drug use." The Academy also warned that school-based drug testing programs could decrease student involvement in extracurricular activities and undermine trust between pupils and educators.

A 2003 cross-sectional study of national student drug testing programs previously reported, "Drug testing, as practiced in recent years in American secondary schools, does not prevent or inhibit student drug use."

A 2007 prospective randomized clinical trial also reported that students who underwent random drug testing did not differ in their self-reported drug use compared to students at neighboring schools who were not enrolled in drug testing programs.

For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, at (202) 483-5500 or Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director.

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Captain Cannabis · 09-29-2008, 02:26 AM

thats fucked up. i have never heard of anyone getting drug tested at school before

Lloydy · 09-29-2008, 03:47 AM

they piss taste? that IS fucked up

wanderlust · 09-29-2008, 04:23 AM

lulz

ProfessorMurder · 09-29-2008, 07:43 AM

No steroids check?

Don't wanna fuck up the "Off Field Betting"

Johnny's going to college on a "Tiny Balls Scholarship".
.

Dozer McDozer · 09-29-2008, 09:45 AM

last year some parents had their kids drug tested during school with swabs that you sit in your mouth for a while and they randomly picked some kids and they picked me... i had no idea what i was being asked to the library for. but since i was 18 i was like screw this and they told me i could leave

DdC · 09-30-2008, 08:07 PM

Finally - a drug free workforce!
DWR: Pete Guither September 30, 2008

John Consoli wants to get rid of drugs in the workplace, one telephone handset at a time.

Consoli, 67, is the president of On Site, a Spring Hill, Fla., company marketing DrugWipe, a handheld narcotic detector.

Just swipe the DrugWipe against a keyboard or any other surface, Consoli said, and the toothbrush-sized detector can tell whether anyone who has touched the surface in the past 72 hours had drugs in his or her system.

What a wonderful, selfless guy. John Consoli just wants to get rid of drugs in the workplace. We know this because Helen Anne Travis of the St. Petersburg Times tells us this.

Of course, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Consoli owns a company that is trying to make money, could it?

A DrugWipe kit costs about $50 and can be used to check 10 to 15 surfaces. Testers must be trained and certified. Training takes a half-day and costs $500. Companies can also hire an On Site professional to test workplace surfaces; prices vary.

The good thing is that we know from reading Helen Anne Travis' article that DrugWipe is 100% accurate. How do we know this? Because president Consoli tells us it's true.

"It is 100-per-cent accurate," Consoli said.

So since Helen Anne Travis is writing this article about this revolutionary change to how businesses deal with human resources, she probably talked to some businesses about this idea...

Pinning down a corporation that used DrugWipe was difficult. Since Consoli is just starting out, he hasn't actually had any clients.

Well then, perhaps Travis shouldn't let Consoli get to third base on the first date.

But let's go back to this notion of certified testers wandering around companies swabbing telephones to collect glandular secretions of past activities.

Hmmm. Perhaps gloves will come back into fashion again.

But... What happened to management? I mean, real, honest-to-goodness management techniques? The kind that values good work? Companies used to hire managers who had the amazing ability to actually observe the work of their employees and discover whether they were doing a good job through that observation, and from looking at the quality of the work produced.

I know it's hard to believe, but it actually worked for a very long time. Perhaps even better than today's modern management techniques of ouija boards, studying employee urine, bundling failed mortgages, and collecting gland secretions with a swab.

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After his resignation, Turner joined with Robert DuPont and former head of NIDA, Peter Bensinger, to corner the market on urine testing. They contracted as advisors to 250 of the largest corporations to develop drug diversion, detection, and urine testing programs.

Soon after Turner left office, Nancy Reagan recommended that no corporation be permitted to do business with the Federal government without having a urine purity policy in place to show their loyalty.

Just as G. Gordon Liddy went into high-tech corporate security after his disgrace, Carlton Turner became a rich man in what has now become a huge growth industry: urine-testing.

This kind of business denies the basic rights of privacy, self-incrimination (Fifth Amendment) rights, unreasonable search and seizure, and the presumption of innocence (until proven guilty).

Submission to the humiliation of having your most private body parts and functions observed by a hired voyeur is now the test of eligibility for private employment, or to contract for a living wage.

Turner's new money-making scheme demands that all other Americans relinquish their fundamental right to privacy and self-respect.

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Citing several academic and other studies, the ACLU says that drug users are not any more likely than their nonuser counterparts to have workplace accidents.

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09-30-2008, 08:16 PM

If they have suspicion that your high at the one school I went to they could make you take a test.

Parallax · 10-01-2008, 04:58 PM

what if you are a minor and you refuse?

what if you are not a minor and you refuse?

blackdeath88012 · 10-01-2008, 10:51 PM

you have no rights in schools....
i know at mine, all the athletes can get tested randomly, and anyone who drives can get tested randomly.

SweetMattisGanj · 10-02-2008, 08:30 AM

School rules are pretty much bullshit. I guess people under 18 aren't yet people so sorry, no rights for you. I'm all for getting a good education but things get a little extreme. At the high school I went to, and probably most others, they say that the students are their responsibility until they get home, while that could be a good thing I've never seen it used as such. I've seen people suspended for things they did miles away from school on their own time. I almost got suspended myself because in my senior year, after turning 18, I was smoking a cigarette on my way to school and a teacher saw me. Left my cigs in the car when I got there and locked the doors but apparently the principal felt kids were willing to break into my car to get at my cigs because every minor is instantly addicted to cigarettes with one glance. It was complete bullshit but ultimately the fact that I was 18 and can charm the shit out of anybody got my punishment down to a warning if I promised I would tell my parents, lmfao, they knew I smoked, I was fuckin 18. I promised I'd never bring cigarettes on school grounds again and started putting them in the glove compartment before school. Point being, if schools are that hard on legal substances in the possession of somebody of age to have them think of how bad they must be on illegal drugs. If schools spent half the money they spend disciplining the kids on teaching them then maybe America wouldn't be so red, white and retarded.

Captain Cannabis · 10-02-2008, 11:34 AM

my school had a smoking pit for kids who smoked cigarettes

NorcalCarl · 10-02-2008, 02:50 PM

Wow I thought it was illegal to drug test kids at school. Disappointing to hear this. Land of the Free. what a joke

Parallax · 10-02-2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Cannabis

my school had a smoking pit for kids who smoked cigarettes

my school has a pit for smoking weed

~1~ · 10-10-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parallax

what if you are a minor and you refuse?

what if you are not a minor and you refuse?

If you are a minor and mommy or daddy says its okay, then you can't refuse. I mean, you probably could refuse, but you'd be looking at another school to attend.

If you're not a minor and refuse, see part two of above answer.

Conform or get out, we don't need no individuality here son.

And by the way, my graduating year was the last of the good times in high school. Open campus, smoking area, less that 3,000 students on campus at one time.

It was 1985.

Canuck Wisdom · 10-10-2008, 05:37 PM

Yea just so its clear. Drug testing in schools in not normal (outside the states)

Parallax · 10-10-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by №1

Open campus, smoking area, less that 3,000 students on campus at one time.

It was 1985.

thats what high school was like for me, except i graduated in 05. but this was in canada.

i didn't know it was that bad in the states.

Mahavishnu · 10-11-2008, 01:42 PM

mine doesn't

zoltron · 10-11-2008, 02:13 PM

WTF is the matter with these authority figures? It's called HIGH school!! You're supposed to be 'high'.

My high school had 5600 students. My class alone had 1300 students. Drug testing was unheard of...I mean REALLY unheard of. It wasn't invented yet.
1968 to 1972...LTHS...La Grange, IL. How did time pass so quickly? I wonder what's for dinner?

The Rev · 10-11-2008, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by №1

And by the way, my graduating year was the last of the good times in high school. Open campus, smoking area, less that 3,000 students on campus at one time.

It was 1985.

I was class of '85 too. And we had a smoking area, and you could pretty much buy smokes without being carded, so it was more than just 18+ year olds in the smoking section. We probably had somewhere around 3000 kids, as well.

And, it was STILL too fucking rediculous for me, so I GED'ed. (Graduated from a good university w/ a 3.0, BTW)

I could never make it in public school, today. I can barely stand being a member of regular society. It all seems like some kind of perverse Kafka-esque nightmare, anymore. Nothing makes sense, no one thinks, and the ship of fools chugs on toward oblivion with people fighting over who said what about whom...

Kills me.

The Rev

09-29-2008, 01:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,088 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 47 Thanked 570 Times in 378 Posts	One In Five High Schools Piss Taste Students Survey: One In Five High Schools Drug Test Students September 25, 2008 - Washington, DC Washington, DC: An estimated one in five high schools and one in ten middle schools engage in some form of student drug testing - including random testing, according to survey data compiled by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and published in the fall issue of Strategies for Success, a newsletter of the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP). "Findings indicate that the number of schools conducting … drug testing may be [approximately] 4,000 - more than double the highest estimates cited previously," the ONDCP reported. In all, 14.6 percent of all public and private middle schools and high schools now conduct some type of student drug testing, the CDC's School Health Policies and Programs study found. Slightly more than 50 percent of these schools reported conducted random drug testing among specific groups of students. Of the schools that drug test, 84 percent utilize urinalysis - a method that detects the presence of inactive drug metabolites, but does not have the ability to determine recent drug use or impairment. Fifteen percent of schools employ hair follicle testing, the study reported. Eight percent use saliva testing, and three percent use sweat patch testing technology. Of the drugs screened for, 86 percent of schools test for the presence of marijuana. By contrast, 75 percent of school drug testing programs screen for cocaine, 50 percent screen for alcohol, and fewer than 20 percent test for nicotine. Last year the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) Council on School Health resolved, "There is little evidence of the effectiveness of school-based drug testing," and warned that students subjected to random testing programs may experience "an increase in known risk factors for drug use." The Academy also warned that school-based drug testing programs could decrease student involvement in extracurricular activities and undermine trust between pupils and educators. A 2003 cross-sectional study of national student drug testing programs previously reported, "Drug testing, as practiced in recent years in American secondary schools, does not prevent or inhibit student drug use." A 2007 prospective randomized clinical trial also reported that students who underwent random drug testing did not differ in their self-reported drug use compared to students at neighboring schools who were not enrolled in drug testing programs. For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, at (202) 483-5500 or Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director. Text Messaging Impacts Psychomotor Skills Far More Than Cannabis September 25, 2008 - London, United Kingdom Kids and Pot Discussion Virtues' of Ganja Groups Endorsing RxGanja Politics of Pot Drug War Distortions Drugwar Lies Linked to Schizophrenia Anti-Drug Campaigns Dumb Down Vital Message Mothers Against the Drug Czar’s War on Kids Drug laws fertilize teen violence July 18, 2008 MAMA formed in 1982 to address the multifaceted issues of substance use, misuse and abuse. MAMA's approach is based on Personal Responsibility, and Informed Decision Making, with Respect for Human Dignity Distortion 10: Young People and Drugs Distortion 10: Current drug policy protects American youth. Untrue. Current drug policy harms America's young people in many ways. "The horrors experienced by many young inmates, particularly those who are convicted of nonviolent offenses, border on the unimaginable. Prison rape not only threatens the lives of those who fall prey to their aggressors, but it is potentially devastating to the human spirit. Shame, depression, and a shattering loss of self-esteem accompany the perpetual terror the victim thereafter must endure." U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry A. Blackmun, Farmer v. Brennan Just Detention International. Bong Hits 4 Jesus CU Police Return Marijuana To Student By Vanessa Miller CN Source: Daily Camera September 22, 2008 Colorado University of Colorado police on Monday returned marijuana to a CU student -- who's a medical-marijuana cardholder -- after officers in May confiscated about two ounces of the drug from the freshman outside his residence hall room. Now-CU sophomore Edward Nicholson, 20, had threatened to sue the university after he said CU police confiscated marijuana that he's legally certified to administer to his brother -- who Nicholson said suffers from chronic, debilitating pain from football injuries. __________________ Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol then Ganja//Hemp.

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Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,849 Thanks: 2,580 Thanked 2,915 Times in 1,679 Posts	thats fucked up. i have never heard of anyone getting drug tested at school before __________________ fuck the monkeys

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Lloydy KTF Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 11,692 Thanks: 469 Thanked 2,191 Times in 1,004 Posts	they piss taste? that IS fucked up __________________ Keep the red flag flying high

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ProfessorMurder Jackal Ghoul Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rio Grande Valley, Texas Posts: 1,270 Thanks: 31 Thanked 122 Times in 99 Posts	No steroids check? Don't wanna fuck up the "Off Field Betting" Johnny's going to college on a "Tiny Balls Scholarship". . __________________ "No contaban con mi astucia!"

09-29-2008, 09:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dozer McDozer YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 772 Thanks: 158 Thanked 86 Times in 77 Posts	last year some parents had their kids drug tested during school with swabs that you sit in your mouth for a while and they randomly picked some kids and they picked me... i had no idea what i was being asked to the library for. but since i was 18 i was like screw this and they told me i could leave __________________ Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. - Albert Einstein Properly trained, man can be a dog's best friend - i'll get his name once i get book back

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09-30-2008, 08:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,088 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 47 Thanked 570 Times in 378 Posts	Finally - a drug free workforce! Finally - a drug free workforce! DWR: Pete Guither September 30, 2008 John Consoli wants to get rid of drugs in the workplace, one telephone handset at a time. Consoli, 67, is the president of On Site, a Spring Hill, Fla., company marketing DrugWipe, a handheld narcotic detector. Just swipe the DrugWipe against a keyboard or any other surface, Consoli said, and the toothbrush-sized detector can tell whether anyone who has touched the surface in the past 72 hours had drugs in his or her system. What a wonderful, selfless guy. John Consoli just wants to get rid of drugs in the workplace. We know this because Helen Anne Travis of the St. Petersburg Times tells us this. Of course, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Consoli owns a company that is trying to make money, could it? A DrugWipe kit costs about $50 and can be used to check 10 to 15 surfaces. Testers must be trained and certified. Training takes a half-day and costs $500. Companies can also hire an On Site professional to test workplace surfaces; prices vary. The good thing is that we know from reading Helen Anne Travis' article that DrugWipe is 100% accurate. How do we know this? Because president Consoli tells us it's true. "It is 100-per-cent accurate," Consoli said. So since Helen Anne Travis is writing this article about this revolutionary change to how businesses deal with human resources, she probably talked to some businesses about this idea... Pinning down a corporation that used DrugWipe was difficult. Since Consoli is just starting out, he hasn't actually had any clients. Well then, perhaps Travis shouldn't let Consoli get to third base on the first date. But let's go back to this notion of certified testers wandering around companies swabbing telephones to collect glandular secretions of past activities. Hmmm. Perhaps gloves will come back into fashion again. But... What happened to management? I mean, real, honest-to-goodness management techniques? The kind that values good work? Companies used to hire managers who had the amazing ability to actually observe the work of their employees and discover whether they were doing a good job through that observation, and from looking at the quality of the work produced. I know it's hard to believe, but it actually worked for a very long time. Perhaps even better than today's modern management techniques of ouija boards, studying employee urine, bundling failed mortgages, and collecting gland secretions with a swab. Police Presence At Schools CN NS: Calder, Paul The Amherst Citizen 9.26.8 Kids and Pot Discussion Drug Testing Feels Economic Pressures Author: Maria M. Perotin, Knight Ridder Tribune Published: Wednesday, May 7, 2003 CannabisNews Drug Testing Archives ACLU * NORML "If I instituted drug testing at Cypress, I would get a brick through my windshield, and I would deserve it." --T.J. Rogers, President, Cypress Semiconductor FIT 2000 non-invasive 30-second impairment test. "FIT 2000 is directly relevant to employers interested in high quality, exacting, detail work, as well as general safety and quality, without violating the privacy of the employee' Urine Testing Company After his resignation, Turner joined with Robert DuPont and former head of NIDA, Peter Bensinger, to corner the market on urine testing. They contracted as advisors to 250 of the largest corporations to develop drug diversion, detection, and urine testing programs. Soon after Turner left office, Nancy Reagan recommended that no corporation be permitted to do business with the Federal government without having a urine purity policy in place to show their loyalty. Just as G. Gordon Liddy went into high-tech corporate security after his disgrace, Carlton Turner became a rich man in what has now become a huge growth industry: urine-testing. This kind of business denies the basic rights of privacy, self-incrimination (Fifth Amendment) rights, unreasonable search and seizure, and the presumption of innocence (until proven guilty). Submission to the humiliation of having your most private body parts and functions observed by a hired voyeur is now the test of eligibility for private employment, or to contract for a living wage. Turner's new money-making scheme demands that all other Americans relinquish their fundamental right to privacy and self-respect. Just Say No To Drug Tests Setting Drug Impairment Levels Far Off Drug-Test Case Pitting Ideology Against Law "They who can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin Bill Bendit's Bad Bet: The Bookmaker of Virtues They are the staples of a modern-day job search: a polished resume, glowing references and a clean urine sample. Without fulfilling that last criterion for a satisfactory drug screen, applicants at many U.S. companies can forget about employment. What's Bill Bennett Smoking? A War Worth Fighting - William Bennett Bennett's Fuzzy Drug-War Victory More fuzzy drug-war math The ACLU said that the federal government spent $11.7million to test nearly 29,000 workers in 1990. Only 153 employees flunked, putting the cost of finding each user at $77,000, according to the ACLU. Citing several academic and other studies, the ACLU says that drug users are not any more likely than their nonuser counterparts to have workplace accidents. "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." --Albert Einstein My Drug Lessons - Christian Science Monitor Supreme Court's Reefer Madness CannabisNews Articles - Joel Miller California to make production of Anti drug-testing products a felony! "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." --Mussolini AB154 Bans Piss Test Adulterants Court Rules on Heat-Sensor Searches 6.11.01 Supreme Court Rules Thermal Imaging Is a Search Court: Flyover Sufficient for Search Warrant High-Tech Police: Big Brother with a Badge? HIGH COURT REFUSES TO HALT DRUG TESTS Appeals Rejected: Teachers Must Submit To Procedure at : CN Drug Testing related topics Appeals Court Strikes Down Drug Testing Law Putting The Pee In Protest Don't Hold Your Breath in All This Smoke "We can have justice whenever those who have not been injured by injustice are as outraged by it as those who have been." --Solon (594 B.C.)

09-30-2008, 08:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
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Parallax Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,630 Thanks: 131 Thanked 497 Times in 269 Posts	what if you are a minor and you refuse? what if you are not a minor and you refuse? __________________ FUCK THE ROBOTS!!! NUKE THE WHALES!!!

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blackdeath88012 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	you have no rights in schools.... i know at mine, all the athletes can get tested randomly, and anyone who drives can get tested randomly.

10-02-2008, 08:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
SweetMattisGanj Loadit Von Bongthovn Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 76 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	School rules are pretty much bullshit. I guess people under 18 aren't yet people so sorry, no rights for you. I'm all for getting a good education but things get a little extreme. At the high school I went to, and probably most others, they say that the students are their responsibility until they get home, while that could be a good thing I've never seen it used as such. I've seen people suspended for things they did miles away from school on their own time. I almost got suspended myself because in my senior year, after turning 18, I was smoking a cigarette on my way to school and a teacher saw me. Left my cigs in the car when I got there and locked the doors but apparently the principal felt kids were willing to break into my car to get at my cigs because every minor is instantly addicted to cigarettes with one glance. It was complete bullshit but ultimately the fact that I was 18 and can charm the shit out of anybody got my punishment down to a warning if I promised I would tell my parents, lmfao, they knew I smoked, I was fuckin 18. I promised I'd never bring cigarettes on school grounds again and started putting them in the glove compartment before school. Point being, if schools are that hard on legal substances in the possession of somebody of age to have them think of how bad they must be on illegal drugs. If schools spent half the money they spend disciplining the kids on teaching them then maybe America wouldn't be so red, white and retarded. __________________ Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power. If you realize that you have enough, you are truly rich. If you stay in the center and embrace death with your whole heart, you will endure forever. -Tao Te Ching

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Captain Cannabis safety word: more Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: m.i.a. Posts: 13,849 Thanks: 2,580 Thanked 2,915 Times in 1,679 Posts	my school had a smoking pit for kids who smoked cigarettes __________________ fuck the monkeys

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NorcalCarl JAH Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SF! Posts: 626 Thanks: 61 Thanked 115 Times in 85 Posts	Wow I thought it was illegal to drug test kids at school. Disappointing to hear this. Land of the Free. what a joke

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zoltron Yankee Rebel Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: left right here Posts: 6,289 Thanks: 489 Thanked 690 Times in 404 Posts	WTF is the matter with these authority figures? It's called HIGH school!! You're supposed to be 'high'. My high school had 5600 students. My class alone had 1300 students. Drug testing was unheard of...I mean REALLY unheard of. It wasn't invented yet. 1968 to 1972...LTHS...La Grange, IL. How did time pass so quickly? I wonder what's for dinner? __________________ Politicians against Legalization support Organized Crime "A Nation of sheep breeds a Government of wolves."--I.Dunno

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