New drug czar - Page 2

al-Mu'akhkhir · 02-14-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OldMan&TheWeed

Sounds good to me cuz I got mine!

Sucks to be cardless a guess.

i can only hope i die before i get old... or get a medical marijuana script.

José · 02-14-2009, 07:32 PM

I'm actually working on mine. I've got IBS which will qualify me. My parents won't take me to the doctor because they know I'll just try to get that on my medical record.

So I have to wait till I can pay to go to the doctor myself. I have no problem with that I guess.. I don't know why my parents would rather have me be doing it legally though? I've even talked to them, they said they would if I can get the records. I bet if they pass MM for all of the US, some states would pass it as anti-depressants etc.. Not to mention I'd probably have to go shit in a cup for the doctors...

al-Mu'akhkhir · 02-14-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SpankyMcLankey

I'm actually working on mine. I've got IBS which will qualify me. My parents won't take me to the doctor because they know I'll just try to get that on my medical record.

So I have to wait till I can pay to go to the doctor myself. I have no problem with that I guess.. I don't know why my parents would rather have me be doing it legally though? I've even talked to them, they said they would if I can get the records. I bet if they pass MM for all of the US, some states would pass it as anti-depressants etc.. Not to mention I'd probably have to go shit in a cup for the doctors...

I don't think that they're going to give you marijuana just for the pain from IBS... more likely they're going to run you through the gamut of painkillers until none of that shit works anymore.

Also, tell your parents to WAKE THE FUCK UP. Just because they're afraid you're going to try and get the doctor to prescribe you marijuana doesn't mean that you shouldn't be getting regular physicals/treatment for your ibs... pretty fucking stupid, I wouldn't fuck with my kid's health like that.

move on out dude.

DdC · 02-14-2009, 08:27 PM

Treat Drugs as a Public Health Problem
That is why our smart, new president said on the campaign trail that the war on drugs "has been an utter failure" and we need a new paradigm "so that we focus on a public health approach." President Obama is tapping Seattle police Chief Gil Kerlikowske to be his new drug czar (he was also onetime chief of police for the Florida cities of Fort Pierce and Port St. Lucie). He's known as someone who supports research-driven public policy, but we'll see if that means real change.

"I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the Customs Agent. I am the Coast guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable"
Alexander Shulgin, PhD, Chemist and author,
DPF Conference, November 1996

DdC · 02-14-2009, 09:10 PM

SSDP: Take Action!

President Obama has finally selected his "Drug Czar," Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske. It's our job to educate him about the failures of the Drug War and the need for change!

Step 1: Sign the Petition

0-25 of 1410 signatures

Dear Police Chief Kerlikowske,

Congratulations on your nomination to direct the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

You certainly have a big job ahead of you. 76% of Americans know that the Drug War is failing. We are looking for serious answers to our nation's drug problems, but the government has thus far refused to change course.

We are hopeful that you will be more receptive to sensible reforms than your predecessors have been. After all, it was under your watch that the city of Seattle embraced harm reduction principles, openly discussed alternatives to prohibition, protected the rights of medical marijuana patients, and made marijuana possession a lowest law enforcement priority.

Over the past several years, we've been pleased to see your police force tolerate open marijuana use at the city's Hempfest, which draws more than 300,000 people annually. By refusing to arrest these peacefully assembled citizens, you stood with the 76% of Americans who support the decriminalization of marijuana.

As you direct the nation's drug policy, we urge you to follow through on the promises that President Obama has made, including:
-Ending the racially unjust disparity in sentencing for crack and powder cocaine.
-Ending the practice of prosecuting patients in states with medical marijuana laws.
-Supporting harm reduction programs such as needle exchange.
-Shifting drug policy toward a public health approach.

Ultimately, effective drug policy should be grounded in science, public health, racial equality and human dignity. We hope that you'll be the Drug Czar who finally gets it right.

step 2...

Hostile · 02-15-2009, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DdC

"I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the Customs Agent. I am the Coast guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable"
Alexander Shulgin, PhD, Chemist and author,
DPF Conference, November 1996

Brilliant, thank you for sharing that.

OldMan&TheWeed · 02-15-2009, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HYPERFUKBOT

I don't think that they're going to give you marijuana just for the pain from IBS... more likely they're going to run you through the gamut of painkillers until none of that shit works anymore.
. . .

move on out dude.

Depends on which doctor.

verklingen · 03-12-2009, 10:42 AM

it's official: washingtonpost.com

Quote:

Seattle Police Chief to Be Named Drug Czar
Disclosure About Family Member's Substance-Abuse Struggles Had Posed Hurdles

By Chris Cillizza
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 11, 2009; Page A02

President Obama will name Seattle Police Chief R. Gil Kerlikowske as the nation's drug czar today, ending a long search that was slowed as details of drug arrests involving Kerlikowske's son came to light.

The administration will remove the job's Cabinet designation -- reversing an elevation of the office under President George W. Bush -- although one senior official said that Kerlikowske would have "full access and a direct line to the president and the vice president." The source also noted that Vice President Biden was instrumental in the creation of the Office of National Drug Control Policy and would continue to be an outspoken advocate on the issue.

Kerlikowske has long been speculated to be the front-runner to serve as the drug czar. But revelations concerning the arrests of his son, Jeffrey, on drug-related charges complicated the process.

The White House acknowledged Jeffrey Kerlikowske's past drug use but offered no specifics or comment.

In his remarks today accepting the nomination, Kerlikowske is expected to reference his family struggles with drug abuse. "Our nation's drug problem is one of human suffering," according to his prepared remarks. "As a police officer, but also in my own family, I have experienced first-hand the devastating effects that drugs can have on our youth, our families and our communities."

In formally nominating Kerlikowske, Obama -- who admitted using cocaine as a teenager in his memoir "Dreams From My Father" -- offers a vote of confidence for a man who could face uncomfortable questions during his confirmation process. The position requires confirmation by the Senate.
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Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton praised the pick, saying, "As a City Police Chief, Gil sees every day the violence and tragedy that results from drug abuse in this country and will require no 'on-the-job training.' "

Historically, the White House's broad drug-control strategy has revolved around prevention, helping drug users and disrupting the market for illegal drugs. During the campaign, Obama supported prevention efforts as a way to combat not only drug abuse but also unemployment and crime.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano have met in recent weeks with Mexican authorities to discuss the flow of drugs and violence across the border.

During the Bush years, the number of high-schoolers using drugs declined by more than 900,000, according to a January report issued by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. A separate national survey on drug use and health concluded, however, that nearly 7 million people in the United States show some signs of drug use or dependence, most often involving marijuana.

Kerlikowske served as police chief in two Florida cities, Fort Pierce and Port St. Lucie, before becoming police commissioner in Buffalo in 1994. He left that job after 4 1/2 years to work in the Clinton Justice Department as the director of the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services. During that time, he became close with Holder.

In his most recent stint, in Seattle, Kerlikowske drew national media attention in 2004 when, seeking to demonstrate the efficacy of the Taser stun gun, he allowed himself to be zapped with 50,000 volts of electricity in front of reporters and television cameras. He commanded less favorable media attention in 2001 when his department was criticized for its lack of aggressiveness in dealing with Mardi Gras riots that left one man dead and 70 injured.

In 2004, Kerlikowske's personal gun was stolen after he left it under the seat of his unmarked police car.

He currently serves as president of the Major Cities Chiefs Association.

Staff writer Carrie Johnson contributed to this report.

DdC · 03-12-2009, 01:05 PM

Ky.: Floor vote imminent on bill seeking to make prior marijuana use an automatic DUI

Dear Xxxxxx:

SB 5 seeks to punish prior use of a controlled substance — including marijuana — with an automatic DUI conviction. Under the provisions of SB 5, a driver who tests positive for traces of marijuana can be convicted of "driving under the influence" even if that driver is unimpaired at the time of arrest.

In order to push this ill-advised legislation through the legislature, proponents have attached SB 5 to HB 369 as Senate Floor Amendment 1 (HB 369 SFA1). Because HB 369 already overwhelmingly passed the House, the amended version may enjoy enough support to pass the Senate; however, it must be called to the Senate floor for a vote before Friday or it dies.

Please send your legislators an e-mail today asking them to oppose any attempt to equate prior use of a controlled substance with an automatic DUI conviction.

After you have sent your legislators an e-mail, please follow up with a call to your state senator and ask him or her to vote "no" on HB 369 SFA1 if it comes up for a vote, which we expect to happen in the next day or two.

Zero-tolerance laws are unjust and scientifically unsound, which is exactly why not one single state applies such a rule to adults who use alcohol responsibly. Legislation like this is especially problematic as it relates to marijuana, because 1) marijuana is detectable by drug tests for days, even weeks, after its intoxicating effects have worn off, and 2) there are currently no scientifically reliable tests to measure driver impairment as it relates to marijuana. In fact, the inability to accurately measure marijuana impairment with a blood test is why both the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National Institute on Drug Abuse have stated that marijuana impairment testing via blood sampling is unreliable.

We need as many people as possible calling committee members, so please forward this alert to other Kentuckians who are interested in opposing laws that are scientifically unsound. Thank you for supporting the Marijuana Policy Project and all of our allies.

Sincerely,

Nathan Miller
Legislative Analyst
Marijuana Policy Project

"Marijuana Policy Project" on The Rachel Maddow Show

President Obama Names New Drug CZAR

02-14-2009, 07:32 PM	#22 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,361 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	I'm actually working on mine. I've got IBS which will qualify me. My parents won't take me to the doctor because they know I'll just try to get that on my medical record. So I have to wait till I can pay to go to the doctor myself. I have no problem with that I guess.. I don't know why my parents would rather have me be doing it legally though? I've even talked to them, they said they would if I can get the records. I bet if they pass MM for all of the US, some states would pass it as anti-depressants etc.. Not to mention I'd probably have to go shit in a cup for the doctors... Last edited by José; 02-14-2009 at 07:34 PM.

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DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,117 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 51 Thanked 607 Times in 399 Posts	Treat Drugs as a Public Health Problem That is why our smart, new president said on the campaign trail that the war on drugs "has been an utter failure" and we need a new paradigm "so that we focus on a public health approach." President Obama is tapping Seattle police Chief Gil Kerlikowske to be his new drug czar (he was also onetime chief of police for the Florida cities of Fort Pierce and Port St. Lucie). He's known as someone who supports research-driven public policy, but we'll see if that means real change. "I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the Customs Agent. I am the Coast guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable" Alexander Shulgin, PhD, Chemist and author, DPF Conference, November 1996 __________________ Al Capone and Watergate were red herrings to divert the countries attention from the Fascist acts of eliminating competition. Booze/Ethanol then Ganja//Hemp.

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DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,117 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 51 Thanked 607 Times in 399 Posts	SSDP: Take Action! President Obama has finally selected his "Drug Czar," Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske. It's our job to educate him about the failures of the Drug War and the need for change! Step 1: Sign the Petition 0-25 of 1410 signatures Dear Police Chief Kerlikowske, Congratulations on your nomination to direct the Office of National Drug Control Policy. You certainly have a big job ahead of you. 76% of Americans know that the Drug War is failing. We are looking for serious answers to our nation's drug problems, but the government has thus far refused to change course. We are hopeful that you will be more receptive to sensible reforms than your predecessors have been. After all, it was under your watch that the city of Seattle embraced harm reduction principles, openly discussed alternatives to prohibition, protected the rights of medical marijuana patients, and made marijuana possession a lowest law enforcement priority. Over the past several years, we've been pleased to see your police force tolerate open marijuana use at the city's Hempfest, which draws more than 300,000 people annually. By refusing to arrest these peacefully assembled citizens, you stood with the 76% of Americans who support the decriminalization of marijuana. As you direct the nation's drug policy, we urge you to follow through on the promises that President Obama has made, including: -Ending the racially unjust disparity in sentencing for crack and powder cocaine. -Ending the practice of prosecuting patients in states with medical marijuana laws. -Supporting harm reduction programs such as needle exchange. -Shifting drug policy toward a public health approach. Ultimately, effective drug policy should be grounded in science, public health, racial equality and human dignity. We hope that you'll be the Drug Czar who finally gets it right. step 2...

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