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Old 04-08-2009, 10:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How far would you go for legalization?

I read this in a High Times recently, and thought it to be an interesting question for these forums. If its already been done, then post the link and call me a dick.
Anyways...the question is...if you could make weed legal for everyone else by keeping it illegal for yourself, would you do it?

And when I say, "illegal", I mean that you couldn't obtain it anywhere illegally or consume it. Basically, weed would be off-limits to you, forever.

I say yes, I would. I love and respect weed and hate the injustice done to it by our government enough that I would give up my bestest friend MJ just so others could freely appreciate it.
Anyone else?
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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yeah i would. i take 3 month breaks for no reason other then i lose intrest tho, so its not that much for me. but i do love and respect MJ
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I'll be honest, I wouldn't. I know I can be selfish, and that would definitely be one of those times. I would rather just play the cat and mouse game then to give it up forever.
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I don't want it to be legal...Medicinal yes, legal no...
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legal weed would be shit. it would drive the price up and the quality down. and like someone else said, even if it was illegal to obtain and smoke like it is now in most places in the West, who's joking and saying that such would stop people from obtaining and using it? it doesn't now..
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Strict medicinal would ensure that truly the people who needed it would get it...none of this self sacrifice for the better good...Fuck im not jesus...I'm fucking selfish...
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legal weed would be shit. it would drive the price up and the quality down. and like someone else said, even if it was illegal to obtain and smoke like it is now in most places in the West, who's joking and saying that such would stop people from obtaining and using it? it doesn't now..
legal weed doesnt mean all will be processed, shipped, and sold in stores. surely people will open up smoke shops. i know i will. i'd grow it right in the back of the store.
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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legal weed would be shit. it would drive the price up and the quality down. and like someone else said, even if it was illegal to obtain and smoke like it is now in most places in the West, who's joking and saying that such would stop people from obtaining and using it? it doesn't now..
I have to politely disagree. That's like saying you can't get good wine since prohibition ended. Or the liquor in the stores isn't good enough, and you have to make your own moonshine. Which people do. I doubt quality will go down a fraction of a percent, in fact I believe it will rise since it will openly be researched and no more hush hush of the public. Just my opinion though.
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Seriously. The legalization of weed will do nothing but help weed taste better, be stronger and make it cheaper.

Only dumbasses who buy from "Big Cannabis"(tobacco companies selling marijuana cigs) will get ripped off in any way.
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I think people who think legalization would make good weed less available are either swimming in amazing weed now or completely delusional.
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maybe the average quality would go up and you peeps in the states who call shwag 'mids' wouldn't have to deal with that shit and would call actual bud that is of average quality 'mids', but the standard top-quality would go down for commercial grade-ness.
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and why would that be? Why would the competitive market for the highest quality weed vanish?
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Seriously, if anything, it will increase.

Through word of mouth and whatnot people with better weed will get more recognition...

People that went to Guy A will start going to Guy B to get the better weed, so Guy A will either have to up his game(drop prices, sell a better product or both) or lose all his money and burn out.

It's simple economics really. I don't see how you're failing to grasp that basic concept.
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I would for sure go that far for legalization. It's not like you can't live a great life without weed.... it'd just be a little greater with. But to end all the nonsense prohibition laws?? I'd go even further, i think i'd give up anything except football up to and including a toe or two.
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I would not. If MJ was legal, how else would I stick it to the man?

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Prohibition booze was terrible. moonshine and shit brewed in bathtubs.
If it were legal, there'd be companies and people out there with R&D optimizing and refining the grow process to be the best same as any other industry.

Not only that, the overall price of herb would drop, thus making it far more accessible, the taxes raised on it could hugely benefit whatever state/country in question, and you save tax money on enforcement and punishment/incarceration.

Its like a 3 fold wonder fix for the whole world IMO. but I'm sure I'm biased .
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legal weed would be shit. it would drive the price up and the quality down. and like someone else said, even if it was illegal to obtain and smoke like it is now in most places in the West, who's joking and saying that such would stop people from obtaining and using it? it doesn't now..
If MJ was legalized and regulated by the government and commercial grow producers (government sponsored) or independent growers, were allowed to grow it and then sell small boxed pre-rolled joints with posted THC levels (like cigarette nicotine levels and toxins, are posted today) then quality and selling of said packages could then be sold to legal aged individuals. This would ensure quality, strength and availability and would also "weed" out lower or poor quality packaged goods and STOP illegal growers and distributors.
Every cigarette sized MJ boxed item would then be packaged with the corresponding company brand and it could be a free market, to anyone who wants to start up their own growing company.
The US or Canadian Governments would make billions in revenues from the taxes. This would reduce crime and save the Government Sanctioned DEA and Policing forces billions of tax paid dollars and most importantly, put the illegal producers and distributors out of business for good.
And who doesn't think this is a good idea.
The reason I'm saying all this is because I happen to be a cigarette smoker and have been for 22 years.
When cigarettes were taxed 22 years ago it wasn't that much but you could only buy cigarettes that were manufactured by a certain number of producers. So your choices of which company brand you liked (taste or strength) were limited in number and price was relatively the same among all the cigarette producers of that time.
Now you can buy legal "Indian or Native" made cigarettes in Canada but I find them to be low quality (coarsely ground tobacco and sometimes twigs present) if you buy the cheapest ,least expensive brand.
Today the taxes have increased 10x but you can now buy less expensive cigarettes ,even though, quality and flavor can suffer. The number of different cigarette producing companies has also increased. This gives the consumer a choice on what company brand, taste or strength they would like to use.
These same business principles would be used to produce filtered MJ cigarettoes and would allow a choice among consumers of said product.
Same laws as cigarettes but think of the revenue monies the Government would be raking in. This is a business "Gold Mine" for all the producers and taxation offices.
Everyone wins.
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