Time is running out to vote for legalization

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-08-2010, 05:24 PM

Be heard! Vote now!

We can all do our part right now to cast a vote for legalization right here…

Ideas for Change in America | Change.org

It only takes a few seconds.

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-08-2010, 05:26 PM

Legalization is currently in first place by 800 votes out of about 15 other topics.

**SageTree** · 03-08-2010, 05:26 PM

I'm with you man... but why is time running out?

**SageTree** · 03-08-2010, 05:28 PM

3 days
20 hours
34 mins
05 secs

Gotcha

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-08-2010, 05:36 PM

Sage made me lol. ^

Really, we all need to vote and spread the word. Post that link on your facebook and twitter and all those other networking sites! This is our chance to get them to really consider making it legal!

OldMan&TheWeed · 03-08-2010, 07:43 PM

Drip. . . drip. . . drip. . . another drop in the bucket.

Anonymous4674 · 03-08-2010, 08:11 PM

What you are really voting for is government control.

Now, let's see, they have been at this for a while, and how is them controlling everything working out?

Duh.

I say don't vote...

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-09-2010, 02:49 AM

^ @Anonymous and OldMan

Nowhere does it mention government control, in fact it is all about less government control.

You are voting for an end to unjust arrests, ending destruction of lives stemming from such arrests via removal of civil liberties and reduction of living standards, re-appropriation of wasted tax dollars and public funding so those dollars can be used in a constructive way, focusing police efforts on real crimes that have actual victims, emptying our prisons of non-violent cannabis users, removing the incentive/justification for search and seizure for marijuana possession, a new and viable industry in hemp products such as oil, plastics, fibers, textiles, food, renewable energy, paper, and medicine, a revival of our countries marginalized farmlands through introduction of a new high demand cash crop in the legitimate tax paying market, removing the governments hands from your body and most importantly in our Democracy restoring the true freedom of choice.

Considering all that, the phrase, "I say don't vote" sounds like a trite statement. It sounds to me like you didn't do your homework.

Anonymous4674 · 03-09-2010, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Eagle_Eyes

^ @Anonymous and OldMan

Nowhere does it mention government control, in fact it is all about less government control.

BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

You actually think that they will "legalize" it, and not "control" it. Wow, I needed a good laugh to start off the day!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Eagle_Eyes

Considering all that, the phrase, "I say don't vote" sounds like a trite statement. It sounds to me like you didn't do your homework.

Assume all you want. I have nothing to prove to you.

Bearsy · 03-09-2010, 07:30 AM

We've already been through this, and we've already been denied by the President with no reason, just a "because"... so I doubt it will work but I'm willing to try.

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-09-2010, 01:19 PM

@Bearsy All we can do is try. I was totally frustrated the first time around too but that doesn't mean we should give up. The idea is to continue putting our demand for common sense marijuana policies in their face. We do that by re-voting it into first place. If they deny it a second time we put it in first place for a third. Eventually they will be forced to listen.

@Anon....thanks for reminding me exactly why I don't come to these threads much anymore. Now go vegetate on your couch and watch Talk Soup on E! while the grown-ups are talking. I'm sure you haven't had your fix of Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton gossip yet today.

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-10-2010, 02:59 AM

bump. Every vote counts so please go vote! We are in first place but only by a few hundred votes!

Ideas for Change in America | Change.org

clive · 03-10-2010, 04:59 AM

How can they keep ignoring something that's constantly in first place? seriously pisses me off.

Anonymous4674 · 03-10-2010, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Eagle_Eyes

@Anon....thanks for reminding me exactly why I don't come to these threads much anymore. Now go vegetate on your couch and watch Talk Soup on E! while the grown-ups are talking. I'm sure you haven't had your fix of Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton gossip yet today.

Hey Lee, great!, then don't come to this thread anymore. That would work out as well as people voting to give control of something to someone else.

See, Lee, now, the people have control of MJ.

Voting to legalize it means they DON'T have control of it anymore.

So maybe you should go peddle your dependency on government somewhere else?

Every vote DOESN'T COUNT.

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-10-2010, 03:42 PM

And again Anon, your logic is skewed.

You are obsessed with ending "government control" but you fail to realize that the government is controlling things much bigger than your weed through prohibition. They are controlling your lifestyle by limiting and denying your civil liberties granted to you by the constitution, and they are attempting to control your personal morality. Don't believe me? Go out in public with an "illegal" bag of weed and a let a cop know you are in posession of it. Then have fun losing your ability to vote, find a job, get a loan, climb out of debt, or maintain healthy relations with family and friends because you are too busy making parole, working under enforced community service, or flat out locked up behind bars.

Once it is legal the people will have the same level of "control" of cannabis that they have now. Under legalization you will certainly be able to continue growing your own or getting it from whoever you want, industrial or private. The key here is you will be able to do so without the punitive threats of our restrictive, quasi fascist government.

shelbert008 · 03-10-2010, 06:55 PM

Anonymous, do you want the cartels and gangs to continue having all the power? It sounds like you're drug dealer and therefore benefit from it remaining illegal.

Anonymous4674 · 03-10-2010, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Eagle_Eyes

And again Anon, your logic is skewed.

You are obsessed with ending "government control" but you fail to realize that the government is controlling things much bigger than your weed through prohibition.

See, I have never said anything about ending government control. So you are delusional.

Now you can "rationalize" what I have written to mean anything you want, but I assure you, I have no belief that anything called a "government" is real. You are the one with that paradigm, not me.

So get that straight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Eagle_Eyes

They are controlling your lifestyle by limiting and denying your civil liberties granted to you by the constitution, and they are attempting to control your personal morality. Don't believe me? Go out in public with an "illegal" bag of weed and a let a cop know you are in posession of it. Then have fun losing your ability to vote, find a job, get a loan, climb out of debt, or maintain healthy relations with family and friends because you are too busy making parole, working under enforced community service, or flat out locked up behind bars.

Your reality does not have to be mine. But, yours is funny, so keep it, and keep whining.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_Eagle_Eyes

Once it is legal the people will have the same level of "control" of cannabis that they have now. Under legalization you will certainly be able to continue growing your own or getting it from whoever you want, industrial or private. The key here is you will be able to do so without the punitive threats of our restrictive, quasi fascist government.

When you say "our," you mean you, and that mouse in your pocket, right?

Anonymous4674 · 03-10-2010, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelbert008

Anonymous, do you want the cartels and gangs to continue having all the power? It sounds like you're drug dealer and therefore benefit from it remaining illegal.

"Cartels and gangs" You mean those armed people with badges and uniforms?

It sounds like you are stupid.

shelbert008 · 03-10-2010, 07:34 PM

yeah, I'm the one that sounds stupid

Lee_Eagle_Eyes · 03-11-2010, 02:50 AM

Anon,

no vote=silence=no action=no resistance/no involvement=lack of power=government control

voting=action=resist ance/involvement=power=vo ter control.

I can't spell it out any more clearly than that.

Please go do some homework. Here are some starting points.

Put these into a search engine;
Jack Herer
Harry Anslinger
William Randolph Hearst
The Marijuana Tax Act
Mayor LaGuardia
Nixon's Shafer Commission

Watch these videos, you can find most of them on youtube
American Drug War
Grass
In Pot We Trust

There is also some good information here Erowid

03-08-2010, 05:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Time is running out to vote for legalization Be heard! Vote now! We can all do our part right now to cast a vote for legalization right here… Ideas for Change in America \| Change.org It only takes a few seconds. __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime.

03-08-2010, 05:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Legalization is currently in first place by 800 votes out of about 15 other topics. __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime.

03-08-2010, 05:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,768 Times in 4,664 Posts	I'm with you man... but why is time running out? __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-08-2010, 05:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,768 Times in 4,664 Posts	3 days 20 hours 34 mins 05 secs Gotcha __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-08-2010, 05:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Sage made me lol. ^ Really, we all need to vote and spread the word. Post that link on your facebook and twitter and all those other networking sites! This is our chance to get them to really consider making it legal! __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime.

03-08-2010, 07:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
OldMan&TheWeed been there done that Join Date: May 2006 Location: The West Posts: 2,281 Thanks: 294 Thanked 800 Times in 406 Posts	Drip. . . drip. . . drip. . . another drop in the bucket. __________________ Nintey-three percent of what I say is brilliant, factual information and seven percent is complete bullshit. Have fun deciding which is which.

03-08-2010, 08:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Anonymous4674 YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lucidity Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	What you are really voting for is government control. Now, let's see, they have been at this for a while, and how is them controlling everything working out? Duh. I say don't vote... __________________ Ordained by the church of the Latter Day Dude. "I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant..." (Alan Greenspan)

03-09-2010, 02:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	^ @Anonymous and OldMan Nowhere does it mention government control, in fact it is all about less government control. You are voting for an end to unjust arrests, ending destruction of lives stemming from such arrests via removal of civil liberties and reduction of living standards, re-appropriation of wasted tax dollars and public funding so those dollars can be used in a constructive way, focusing police efforts on real crimes that have actual victims, emptying our prisons of non-violent cannabis users, removing the incentive/justification for search and seizure for marijuana possession, a new and viable industry in hemp products such as oil, plastics, fibers, textiles, food, renewable energy, paper, and medicine, a revival of our countries marginalized farmlands through introduction of a new high demand cash crop in the legitimate tax paying market, removing the governments hands from your body and most importantly in our Democracy restoring the true freedom of choice. Considering all that, the phrase, "I say don't vote" sounds like a trite statement. It sounds to me like you didn't do your homework. __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime. Last edited by Lee_Eagle_Eyes; 03-09-2010 at 02:52 AM.

03-09-2010, 01:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	@Bearsy All we can do is try. I was totally frustrated the first time around too but that doesn't mean we should give up. The idea is to continue putting our demand for common sense marijuana policies in their face. We do that by re-voting it into first place. If they deny it a second time we put it in first place for a third. Eventually they will be forced to listen. @Anon....thanks for reminding me exactly why I don't come to these threads much anymore. Now go vegetate on your couch and watch Talk Soup on E! while the grown-ups are talking. I'm sure you haven't had your fix of Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton gossip yet today. __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime. Last edited by Lee_Eagle_Eyes; 03-09-2010 at 01:37 PM.

03-10-2010, 02:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	bump. Every vote counts so please go vote! We are in first place but only by a few hundred votes! Ideas for Change in America \| Change.org __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime.

03-10-2010, 03:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	And again Anon, your logic is skewed. You are obsessed with ending "government control" but you fail to realize that the government is controlling things much bigger than your weed through prohibition. They are controlling your lifestyle by limiting and denying your civil liberties granted to you by the constitution, and they are attempting to control your personal morality. Don't believe me? Go out in public with an "illegal" bag of weed and a let a cop know you are in posession of it. Then have fun losing your ability to vote, find a job, get a loan, climb out of debt, or maintain healthy relations with family and friends because you are too busy making parole, working under enforced community service, or flat out locked up behind bars. Once it is legal the people will have the same level of "control" of cannabis that they have now. Under legalization you will certainly be able to continue growing your own or getting it from whoever you want, industrial or private. The key here is you will be able to do so without the punitive threats of our restrictive, quasi fascist government. __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime.

03-10-2010, 06:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
shelbert008 stoner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hell on earth aka texas Posts: 1,043 Thanks: 101 Thanked 157 Times in 113 Posts	Anonymous, do you want the cartels and gangs to continue having all the power? It sounds like you're drug dealer and therefore benefit from it remaining illegal. __________________ one pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small, and the one that mother gives you, doesnt do anything at all Feed Your Head

03-10-2010, 07:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
shelbert008 stoner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hell on earth aka texas Posts: 1,043 Thanks: 101 Thanked 157 Times in 113 Posts	yeah, I'm the one that sounds stupid __________________ one pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small, and the one that mother gives you, doesnt do anything at all Feed Your Head

03-11-2010, 02:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
Lee_Eagle_Eyes Old School Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 187 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Anon, no vote=silence=no action=no resistance/no involvement=lack of power=government control voting=action=resist ance/involvement=power=vo ter control. I can't spell it out any more clearly than that. Please go do some homework. Here are some starting points. Put these into a search engine; Jack Herer Harry Anslinger William Randolph Hearst The Marijuana Tax Act Mayor LaGuardia Nixon's Shafer Commission Watch these videos, you can find most of them on youtube American Drug War Grass In Pot We Trust There is also some good information here Erowid __________________ Cannabis prohibition is wasteful and unconstitutional legislation that aims to govern personal morality through the fabrication of a victimless crime.

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