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Old 06-04-2011, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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More Americans over the age of 50 are smokin' mj

I forgot, I saved the link to this, from 2009...thought it was cool:

More Americans over age 50 are smoking marijuana than ever before. Are my parents among them? - By Daniel Engber - Slate Magazine
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Yeah, almost all the weed smokers I know are over 45.

Of course these are my peers.

I'm about to go over to a 50 something lady's place right now to share a bowl.
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Bud sniffer,

I can relate to this part of the article:


For a 57-year-old retired schoolteacher in southeastern Ohio, smoking has become an evening ritual with her husband. She'd given up a weekly habit in 1975, only to be reintroduced by her son. . . Now she and her husband enjoy a few puffs as they watch the sunset through the kitchen window. "It's really a treasured part of our day, just calming down from whatever, chewing over what was going on," she says.
The high never makes her feel self-conscious or uncomfortable, as it did when she smoked at parties in the old days. "My mind is a lot more peaceful than it was when I was younger," she says. "We're not trying to buy a place, we're not trying to get enough money to live on, we're not raising a family. … It's just very mellow."
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^ that is what i cant wait for. the legal status/ my parents point of view on smoking forces me to be like a damn junkie and have to be sneaky when i want to smoke. i end up smoking and then coming home and just chillin in my room rather than talking with my parents.

one day, hopefully, people will calm down and see it for that which it is
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you'll never "never" see cannabis legalized in
america.

and that's a very seasoned opinion.
I agree with you, but I hope we're wrong.

In the last 20 years at least it has become a bit less illegal in some places like here in California.
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its decriminalized here. meaning its just an infraction, not a misdemeanor.

ive had the good fortune of not having to talk to the police 1st hand in some time, but im hoping the decriminalization makes it a lower priority for law enforcement such as is the case in places like santa cruz. mj is supposed to be the lowest priority for law enforcement there(w/e that means).

now this has no effect on peoples ideals, however, but im hoping that as the old people become even older that a more liberal mindset will replace the old conservative views that my parents have been inundated with, and some real changes will take place. not just concerning marjuana
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and that's a very seasoned opinion.
I have to agree with you too.

This isn't the first time the laws have been relaxed, only to tighten up again.
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I figure when there is enough of 'us' in the 'mainstream' we'll begin to have a more 'acceptable' lobby and as ecology/medicine/food become bigger issues I think alternatives will arise which might lead to a legal/acceptable status.
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Count my ancient cranium in [excellent article!]...Turning 57 yrs old in a couple months [I still can't believe I'm pushing 60 ] & been a steady toker, with no time-off, for 42 yrs now. I'll toke 'til I croak, as I've given up the 'sauce' 9 yrs ago & the cigs 3.5 yrs ago.
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Jury Convicts 70-Year-Old Lake Orion Woman in Marijuana Case
An assistant prosecutor told jurors this morning to follow the law and not use sympathy when weighing the fate of a 70-year-old woman facing a drug charge.

More Americans over age 50 are smoking marijuana

Older Americans Overwhelmingly Support Legalizing Medical Pot

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What still confuses me is the fact that most of the politicians are of 'Baby Boomer' age, yet nobody with the authority to change laws are doing anything about outright legalization.
I think these politicians get into Office...discover what an easy gig they have [the benefits, retirement package, medical coverage for their families, etc.] & they don't want to jeopardize their jobs by upsetting the general population. These politicos don't want to 'rock-the-boat' by making any drastic changes, so they let everything stay the same.
Just put in their time...retire...& nothing ever changes.
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Here in Ky., our laws have just changed. Simple possession is now a misdemeanor, where you will now get a ticket instead of being arrested.

However, it has nothing to do with medicine or freedom. It has everything to do with jail overcrowding and money (or the lack of).
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What still confuses me is the fact that most of the politicians are of 'Baby Boomer' age, yet nobody with the authority to change laws are doing anything about outright legalization.
I think these politicians get into Office...discover what an easy gig they have [the benefits, retirement package, medical coverage for their families, etc.] & they don't want to jeopardize their jobs by upsetting the general population. These politicos don't want to 'rock-the-boat' by making any drastic changes, so they let everything stay the same.
Just put in their time...retire...& nothing ever changes.
I agree 1,000 percent Zoltron! But I think folks need to get off their butts and let them know how we feel and stop waiting for someone else to do it..... If we gather all our numbers against them we could make them change their tune. I couldn't believe when back in May, when they have the Million Marijuana March, as huge a city as the capitol of my state is, there were only about 20 people to show up....
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NH is so ass backwards. It has been decriminalized in all surrounding states but our Governer vetoes medical use. Live free or die.. bah
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What still confuses me is the fact that most of the politicians are of 'Baby Boomer' age, yet nobody with the authority to change laws are doing anything about outright legalization.
The politicops today were the snitches of yesteryear. They were the ones calling the cops on field parties. Never buying a bag but always bumming tokes. Those so obedient and teachers pets. Jock's and Military Madness. It seems like most of the 60's and early 70's were all rock and roll and pot and hippies. The boomers are the largest numbers of any generation. Yet only thousands were at the protests. Half a million at Woodstock left many more millions in the shadows. We made a lot of noise but were actually a minority. In 72 I was in the first 18 year old voters since the law changed. With the McGovern concerts and streets filled with music and pot it seemed obvious Nexxon would loose. He won by the largest majority ever if memory serves. Fabricated the CSA while the world tuned into a two bit break in. It's gone downhill from there. Until the internet and now 14 states quasi-legal. In constant bickering with local yokel politicops trying to tweak the initiatives. Still in this day and age with all the evidence they still enforce reefer madness rules in most red "neck" states. Imho Klintoon was a University snitch who got recruited by the CIA and that's how he got to Oxford and probably his first ties with Boosh. Then selected Arkansas governor while Asa Hutchinson was DA and Barry Seal was dropping off bundles of Iran Contra cocaine. Didn't inhale? Doesn't matter as the DEA's new sublingual Ganja spray proves.

Clinton Quiet About Own Radical Ties
Bill and Hillary's Hippie Daze December 13, 2007
The other thing you can bet the stash on about the Clintons in that summer of 1971 in Berkeley is that they were stoned, loaded, blasted, wasted, high as a kite, and just plain baked. At the very least.
The Clinton's Berkeley Summer of Love by Josh Gerstein
The New York Sun
Hillary was clerking for the radical Treuhaft law firm in nearby Oakland.


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"From time to time, I say that the suppression of medical marijuana is murder. This is not quite correct. It is actually mass murder. It has caused the deaths of countless thousands of people. This article is another bit of evidence of the magnitude of the crime."
~ Study finds that Marijuana use may reverse psychosis.

"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution
inhibit the government's ability to govern the people,
we should look to limit those guarantees."
~ President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

"The United States can't be so fixed
on our desire to preserve the rights
of ordinary Americans . . . ."
~ Bill Clinton, March 1, 1993,
during a press conference in Piscataway, N.J.
(Boston Globe, 3/2/93, page 3; and USA Today, 3/11/93


". . . unfortunately, we can't control the actions of everyone."
~ Bill Clinton, April 20, 1993

"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly . . . [However, now] there's a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say there's too much freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it."~ Bill Clinton,
MTV's "Enough is Enough," March 22, 1994


Clinton Asks Supreme Court To Overturn MMJ Ruling



Proven : Cannabis is a safe medicine by Ian Williams Goddard
CANNABIS DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER
BOSTON, Jan. 30, 1997 (UPI)


The U.S. federal government has failed to make public its own 1994 study that undercuts its position that marijuana is carcinogenic - a $2 million study by the National Toxicology Program. The program's deputy director, John Bucher, says the study "found absolutely no evidence of cancer." In fact, animals that received THC had fewer cancers. Bucher denies his agency had been pressured to shelve the report, saying the delay in making it public was due to a personnel shortage.

The Boston Globe reported Thursday (1-30-97) that the study indicates not only that the main ingredient in marijuana, THC, does not cause cancer, but also that it may even protect against malignancies, laboratory tests on animals show.

The report comes on the heels of an editorial in the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine that favors the controlled medical use of marijuana, and calls current federal policy "misguided, heavy-handed and inhumane."

The Clinton administration has said that doctors prescribing marijuana could be prosecuted for a federal crime.

Marijuana has been reported to ease the pain, nausea and vomiting in advanced stages of cancer, AIDS and other serious illnesses, but the federal government claims other treatments have been deemed safer than what it calls "a psychoactive, burning carcinogen."

However, The Boston Globe says the government's claim appears to be undercut by its own $2 million study.

Marijuana: the law vs. 12 million people
Life magazine Oct 31, 1969. 25-35

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In the recent news, they mentioned that lawmakers will d something to decriminalize the use of marijuana. They also mentioned that earlier this week the Connecticut Senate barely passed legislation that decriminalizes possession of small portions of weed. a comparable bill on the floor in New York seeks to correct a loophole in earlier legislation. Even supporters of that bill see its passage prior to period ends as unlikely. The proof is here: N.Y. and Connecticut lawmakers seek to decriminalize marijuana, newstype.com
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DdC, you sound like you're exactly my age, as I turned 18 in 1972 & the Nixon/McGovern election was my 1st attempt at voting. A lot of good it did, as I find our process of electing politicians laughable.
The voters don't have any say in it, imo, as the Electoral College makes the final decision. In 1960, Nixon had more votes than JFK, but the EC stepped-in & made the final decision of JFK [man, if THAT wasn't rigged!].
Even so, with the present-day system, the voters basically have just 2 choices = Democrat or Republican. When there's only 2 people who stand a chance of winning...& neither 1 is to your liking...WTF can the average person do? Write-in someone? That'll go nowhere!!
Every 4 years, we can pick 2 candidates. That's all we have to choose from. If we don't care for either 1, then what? It's time for a total revamping of the voting process!!
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I agree 1,000 percent Zoltron! But I think folks need to get off their butts and let them know how we feel and stop waiting for someone else to do it..... If we gather all our numbers against them we could make them change their tune. I couldn't believe when back in May, when they have the Million Marijuana March, as huge a city as the capitol of my state is, there were only about 20 people to show up....
Thanks BudSniffer...& you're absolutely correct. We ALL need some kinda March on Washington, D.C. to show our disappointment in the way this Country is headed [or NOT headed]. If we could just get a reasonable President in Office & pull an FDR [he abolished Prohibition the second he was elected], maybe this entire Country would see how ridiculous it is keeping a harmless plant illegal.
I hope I see it before I croak.
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