Ganjawarnews: Family Files Lawsuit in Rainbow Death

DdC · 12-04-2003, 01:57 AM

Authorities say 28-year-old Rolland Rohm signed his own death warrant when he pointed a gun at an armored vehicle full of police officers. Rohm's family says the authorities are blatantly lying.

And this week, the family of the slain pro-marijuana activist filed a civil lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Detroit alleging that Rohm, known as Rollie to his friends, was wrongfully killed during a police standoff at the Rainbow Farm Campground during Labor Day weekend 2001 -- and that investigators conspired to cover it up.

"This was murder, pure and simple," Rohm's stepfather, John Livermore, said. "It was a hate crime."

Rohm's death came at the end of a five-day police standoff at the campground, which kicked off when Rohm and his partner, 46-year-old Grover "Tom" Crosslin, barricaded themselves in a farmhouse on the campground property after torching several buildings on the property.

The men were reportedly upset about court proceedings in which Crosslin was facing possible prison time and Rohm had had his son, Robert, 12, removed from his home and placed in state foster care.

While police received tips from neighbors that the men were armed, a crew from WNDU-TV, Channel 16, South Bend, covering the fires in a helicopter, were reportedly fired upon from the ground. Because firing at an aircraft is a federal offense, FBI teams were soon on scene, along with the local and state police agencies responding.

Those FBI agents proved to be Crosslin's undoing on Sept. 3, 2001, when he and a friend, Brandon Peoples, encountered FBI sharpshooters in the woods near the home. Police reports indicate that Crosslin raised his Ruger Mini-14 rifle in the direction of one of the snipers, causing others in the area to shoot him immediately.

But Rohm was still alive in the barricaded farmhouse. After friends and family members pleaded with him to turn himself in all through the night, he finally agreed, but said he needed some sleep before doing so.

Rohm, however, never turned himself in. When flames erupted from the farmhouse early on the morning of Sept. 4, police moved in to prevent his escape, with one team using a tanklike Light Armored Vehicle to move around one side of the house.

And it was at that vehicle that authorities say Rohm aimed his rifle while he knelt next to a small pine tree, causing the Michigan State Police sharpshooters to kill him.

Not so, Livermore said.

"Neither of the autopsies agree with what is in the reports," he said. "There is no way he was pointing a gun at them."

The lawsuit, in which Rohm's estate is listed as plaintiff, names as defendants Daniel Lubelan, John Julin, Jerry Ellsworth, Steve Homrich, David Bower, Joseph Zangaro, Joe Jones and Dave Rampy.

While police reports list Lubelan and Julin as the triggermen, all eight men were members of a Michigan State Police team who were maintaining a perimeter around the farmhouse at the time of the killing.

A spokeswoman for the Michigan State Police said the agency maintains a policy of not commenting on matters involving pending litigation.

Scott Teter, then the Cass County prosecutor, did not file charges in the deaths. He said his investigation showed conclusively that the deaths of both men were justifiable homicides under Michigan law.

Dearborn, Mich., attorney Christopher Keane, who is representing the Livermore family, said they have been gathering information in preparation for the lawsuit for more than a year.

"We have a very strong case," Keane said. "The only justification for a shooting like this is if someone is in imminent danger."

"No one was in imminent danger" from Rohm, he said.

Should the Livermores win the civil case, they could receive monetary compensation, in which case John Livermore said the vast majority would go to Robert Rohm, who has lived with other relatives since the loss of his father.

But Livermore said he and his family are looking for something besides money in the case: They want answers. Answers about inconsistencies they believe are in the published police reports about the killing. Answers about disturbing discoveries they say they have made, such as the slain man's testicles disappearing some time during the police investigations.

And answers about why Rohm was killed in the first place, if, as they believe, he was not threatening the police in any way.

"We want the truth, and we want what is right for (Robert)," Livermore said. "There are a lot of things about this that don't add up."

No court dates have been set for the case.

Note: Rohm's shooting called 'hate crime'

Family Files Lawsuit in Rainbow Death by Adam Jackson
Source: South Bend Tribune (IN) December 3, 2003
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DdC · 12-04-2003, 02:00 AM

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An advertisement in the Washington, D.C. subway system has provided Oklahoma Congressman Ernest Istook, chairman of the House Transportation Subcommittee.
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12-04-2003, 06:25 AM

Very sad situation. I hope the family wins the suit, just for his sons sake.

Jam Cruiser · 12-04-2003, 07:15 AM

Welcome to the beginnings of a future police state.

12-04-2003, 07:25 AM

There was a very good article in playboy a couple months ago, about this case. I had never heard about this until I read that article. Seems 9/11 coverage took over, and thats why many people have never heard about it.

Very sad! They really had a good thing going there, and were just trying to protect what was theirs.

I hope the family gets millions!

12-04-2003, 01:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,117 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 51 Thanked 607 Times in 399 Posts	Ganjawarnews: Family Files Lawsuit in Rainbow Death Authorities say 28-year-old Rolland Rohm signed his own death warrant when he pointed a gun at an armored vehicle full of police officers. Rohm's family says the authorities are blatantly lying. And this week, the family of the slain pro-marijuana activist filed a civil lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Detroit alleging that Rohm, known as Rollie to his friends, was wrongfully killed during a police standoff at the Rainbow Farm Campground during Labor Day weekend 2001 -- and that investigators conspired to cover it up. "This was murder, pure and simple," Rohm's stepfather, John Livermore, said. "It was a hate crime." Rohm's death came at the end of a five-day police standoff at the campground, which kicked off when Rohm and his partner, 46-year-old Grover "Tom" Crosslin, barricaded themselves in a farmhouse on the campground property after torching several buildings on the property. The men were reportedly upset about court proceedings in which Crosslin was facing possible prison time and Rohm had had his son, Robert, 12, removed from his home and placed in state foster care. While police received tips from neighbors that the men were armed, a crew from WNDU-TV, Channel 16, South Bend, covering the fires in a helicopter, were reportedly fired upon from the ground. Because firing at an aircraft is a federal offense, FBI teams were soon on scene, along with the local and state police agencies responding. Those FBI agents proved to be Crosslin's undoing on Sept. 3, 2001, when he and a friend, Brandon Peoples, encountered FBI sharpshooters in the woods near the home. Police reports indicate that Crosslin raised his Ruger Mini-14 rifle in the direction of one of the snipers, causing others in the area to shoot him immediately. But Rohm was still alive in the barricaded farmhouse. After friends and family members pleaded with him to turn himself in all through the night, he finally agreed, but said he needed some sleep before doing so. Rohm, however, never turned himself in. When flames erupted from the farmhouse early on the morning of Sept. 4, police moved in to prevent his escape, with one team using a tanklike Light Armored Vehicle to move around one side of the house. And it was at that vehicle that authorities say Rohm aimed his rifle while he knelt next to a small pine tree, causing the Michigan State Police sharpshooters to kill him. Not so, Livermore said. "Neither of the autopsies agree with what is in the reports," he said. "There is no way he was pointing a gun at them." The lawsuit, in which Rohm's estate is listed as plaintiff, names as defendants Daniel Lubelan, John Julin, Jerry Ellsworth, Steve Homrich, David Bower, Joseph Zangaro, Joe Jones and Dave Rampy. While police reports list Lubelan and Julin as the triggermen, all eight men were members of a Michigan State Police team who were maintaining a perimeter around the farmhouse at the time of the killing. A spokeswoman for the Michigan State Police said the agency maintains a policy of not commenting on matters involving pending litigation. Scott Teter, then the Cass County prosecutor, did not file charges in the deaths. He said his investigation showed conclusively that the deaths of both men were justifiable homicides under Michigan law. Dearborn, Mich., attorney Christopher Keane, who is representing the Livermore family, said they have been gathering information in preparation for the lawsuit for more than a year. "We have a very strong case," Keane said. "The only justification for a shooting like this is if someone is in imminent danger." "No one was in imminent danger" from Rohm, he said. Should the Livermores win the civil case, they could receive monetary compensation, in which case John Livermore said the vast majority would go to Robert Rohm, who has lived with other relatives since the loss of his father. But Livermore said he and his family are looking for something besides money in the case: They want answers. Answers about inconsistencies they believe are in the published police reports about the killing. Answers about disturbing discoveries they say they have made, such as the slain man's testicles disappearing some time during the police investigations. And answers about why Rohm was killed in the first place, if, as they believe, he was not threatening the police in any way. "We want the truth, and we want what is right for (Robert)," Livermore said. "There are a lot of things about this that don't add up." No court dates have been set for the case. Note: Rohm's shooting called 'hate crime' Family Files Lawsuit in Rainbow Death by Adam Jackson Source: South Bend Tribune (IN) December 3, 2003 Contact: vop@sbtinfo.com * Website Related Articles & Web Site Tom & Rollie Memorial Page We Will Not Forget, Rainbow Farm Supporters Friends Remember Rainbow Farm Siege At Rainbow Farm "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy MAP: Rainbow Farm Massacre The Hypocrisy of it all... Another Rogue Mailer By Marcus Warren Source: Daily Telegraph UK December 03, 2003 Norman Mailer's youngest son is stepping into the journalistic ring as the new editor of counter-culture magazine High Times. Just don't call him a tough guy, he tells Marcus Warren. Like father, like son. For certain members of the Mailer family, the age of 25 has proved an important threshold. Now 80, the clan's patriarch, Norman, was just 25 when his blockbuster, The Naked and the Dead, transformed him from nobody into superstar. Read More...cannabisnews. ..17904.shtml Marijuana Views Begin To Change, Marijuana Finds Some Support With the only public views on marijuana those being espoused by the Bureau of Narcotics it wasn't surprising that marijuana received a lot of bad press. Parents of teens knew only that marijuana use led to heroin addiction and that heroin addiction equated to death, or a long prison term. In 1961, with the airing of the John Crosby show, marijuana found some supporters and the ripple effect stirred the nation and made marijuana a hotbed of controversy once again. Alan Ginsberg, Norman Mailer and Ashley Montagu were the scheduled guests and the topic of conversation turned to marijuana. Ginsberg mentioned using the drug overseas in exotic locales like Tangiers, Mailer chimed in that he had tried the drug and hadn't found it to be as bad as everything he'd heard and Montagu spoke of marijuana use in other cultures. All of them agreed that the current marijuana laws were much too harsh. marijuana.drug-culture.com Marijuana, Ginsberg and The Nation The Great Marijuana Hoax By Allen Ginsberg

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DdC Decade Yahookan Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Santa Cruz,CA,USA Posts: 2,117 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 51 Thanked 607 Times in 399 Posts	"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy Marijuana Ad On Metro CNN's Crossfire Transcripts December 03, 2003 An advertisement in the Washington, D.C. subway system has provided Oklahoma Congressman Ernest Istook, chairman of the House Transportation Subcommittee. CARLSON: ... threaten almost $100,000 from the federal government's annual payment. The ad, posted as part of the Metro's policy providing free ad space for public service announcement, declares -- quote -- "Enjoy better sex! Legalize and tax marijuana" Well, Change the Climate, the pro-pot legalization group behind the ad, threatened to sue if it was not given the space to air its views. BEGALA (Klintoon lapdog): I don't think that's anybody's idea of a sexual turn-on. And there's a lot of cancer-causing agents in marijuana. It's a dangerous drug. BEGALA (Klintoon lapdog): ... illegal. CARLSON: You're -- you're on the Republican side of this?(BELL RINGING) BEGALA (Klintoon lapdog): I am. CARLSON: Good for you. BEGALA (Klintoon lapdog): I am. It's a dangerous message. Read More...cannabisnews. ..17902.shtml Aparently the GOPerverts don't feel the same about Bagola... The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers, which are cited to justify it. President John F. Kennedy Clinton Asks Supreme Court To Overturn MMJ Ruling Insanity * Shalalagans * Flout * Thwart SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN MEDICAL MARIJUANA The court, voting 7-1 to grant an emergency Clinton administration request, postponed the effect of federal court rulings that would have allowed a California club to distribute the illegal drug for medicinal use. The Truth About Medical Marijuana Transcripts from October 02, 2003 Independent Institute December 03, 2003 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. My name is David Theroux and I’m the president of The Independent Institute. I’m delighted to welcome all of you to our program this evening. As you know, its title is “The Truth about Medical Marijuana.” We’re delighted that our program tonight is also co-sponsored by our friends at Harper’s Magazine, the Drug Policy Alliance, and the Richard and Rhoda Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California in Berkeley. 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12-04-2003, 06:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Flowerchild Guest Posts: n/a	Very sad situation. I hope the family wins the suit, just for his sons sake.

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Jam Cruiser smoke mad blunts Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: South Philly Posts: 6,509 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Welcome to the beginnings of a future police state.

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Flowerchild Guest Posts: n/a	There was a very good article in playboy a couple months ago, about this case. I had never heard about this until I read that article. Seems 9/11 coverage took over, and thats why many people have never heard about it. Very sad! They really had a good thing going there, and were just trying to protect what was theirs. I hope the family gets millions!

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