Thepizzaguy

I've thought about repotting, but I don't have 4 containers that are the same size. The only time I've used those pots, I have a very inconsistant canopy and didn;t like using them. If they aren;t already, these plants will be root bound by the end of the grow. They only have 45-55 days left. It's a bulk of the flowering time I know. I get good results using 2 liter bottles.

I do have a question. It's had to tell from the pictures of the ICE if one of those is the plant in question, but 4 of 5 have nice dark green and thick leaves, and look alike, while one has a light green finer set of leaves. It doesn't even look like the same strain.

Only watered the babies and one of the WW. Hoping to get all pots the same weight. I had over watered one of the widows to the point where there was a pool of water on top of the soil. Haven't noticed any side effects, the over watering may not have been severe enough.

Thepizzaguy

Well, I need to build some kind of light rack. They other day a light slipped and killed the plant from the above post. This leaves me 4 ICE, The nursery is moving along as usual. The plants all look healthy growing at a swift pace. I should be able to flower these around Christmas.

The flowering group is improving. All the plants have buds, and enough though I was thinking they had stretched more than what I'm used to, it looks like 2 of 4 will have a decent full 12 in cola in the end. One plant now has three tops in the lights. Now sure if they'll fill out. One of the plant is going to fox tail into a spiral. Looks cool, but...

Removed the branches that had been damaged in an accident. 3 in total. They only had tiny buds. The total amount of the harvest, lol, was a small bowl full. The buzz was there, but I haven't smoked since October 3rd or so, so I'd probably get high off the fan leaves, which are littering the floor on my box.

I find this to be the more difficult time. Looking at the plants daily, there's not much change to notice. IF I could get away for about 3 days, I know I would come back to see a a splash of new bud growth. So far, no tricromes. Last time I grew out some White Widow, the buds were white with THC.

Dandaweedman

actually they were white with frost (trichomes).
I have smoked some plants that were so white it looked like someone had poured confection sugar on them but they weren't very potent.
But they did indeed look sweet

I like watching them in veg and early flower, there is so much happening at those times.

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Thepizzaguy

I never thought of that. I just assumed the pollen was there and should be removed.

The Mazar seedlings are getting bigger. The ICE has very fat leaves about 3 fingers wide. 3 of 4 are triplets, and on ICE has slightly thinner leaves. Out of 10 seeds, this is what I have left. 2 didn't germinate 1 died, and 3 from a previous grow were male.

Managed to secure my lights in the flower box. No more duct tape. They are still adjustable. The WW buds have increased. The WW with two tops has three, not 2 main colas. I double checked my cola estimates and I am saying there will be 2 12 inch main colas, 1 8 inch cola and 3 6 inch colas. All that with an array of smaller branch buds.

Thinking about how to seed up this ICE without contaminating the WW. This is supposed to be a perpetual grow and to do this, I will have to move the ICE into the flowering box at some point after they are pollinated. The Mazar, trapped in the middle is just going to have to be a mixed bag. I will remove any males and let the female reproduce it's cross assuming that 1 of the ICE will be male.

Will need a few more lights in both boxes. I have the bulbs, I need the sockets and wiring. Not somthing I have to worry about getting right away. The flower box has 1100 watts of light, 17600 lumen for 4 plants. The nursery box had 600 watts of light and 9600 lumen for 6 plants.

Thepizzaguy

The White Widow is adding on buds. No more light incidents here. The Ice and other Mazar plants growing along. Have been alternating between water and a mild nutrients mix. Sure would like a few more lights in the flowering zone. May end up with airy buds. I may be forward thinking here, the plants look good.

Broke security and invited a friend over to check out my grow. He's an old chat from high school. Long story short, my dad prevented me from hanging with the guy. Dad died so I got back in touch. I was one kid who I would let my dad control me. Anyways, he's a nice guy and just like in high school, I can get him into more trouble than he can get me into.

So he was looking for weed and I had to explain that I don't buy on the street. That I grew my own. He didn't quite understand until he saw my plants. I explained how the set up works, the supplies needed and shared my seed supply. Upon inspection he asked my why I didn't smoke the leaves. I didn't have an answer and he asked if he could have them. So I gave them to him. I also cut off a lower branch with a small bud on it, but forgot to tell him that he could grow it out if he had the space.

Will post pictures once the buds get bigger and the plant fills in. Maybe sometime after Christmas.

Thepizzaguy

Plants moving along. White Widow buds filling in. The lights have settled down and I'm back to feeding them just water. Thinking about flowering the ICE on Christmas. Nice big plants after nearly 3 weeks. The Mazar, since it was started a week later is small. Guess I'll flower those two too.

Still haven't purchased more lights. Going to realign the 4 White Widow plants in the flower box, add a few more lights and make room for the ICE. Making seeds is/was not a good idea, because I will have to keep them separate from the non seeding plants. This is going to effect my perpetual grow with a monthly harvest. After the ICE, the harvest would be 45-60 days apart. I want the ICE seeds, so I figure that pollinating them for a month will get me a good supply. While it won't be the 650 I have from the original White Widow. 20-30 will at least give me a stash. They are in a smaller box and con only get so big before they have to be moved to a bigger space. I think they'll outgrow the nursery by 1-14. If they have good flowers, I think I'll be set, but I'm going to play it on the dime.

I should set up a spreadsheet and run the dates based on 21 days germ and 70 days flower. With 24 as the days of pollination and see what I come up with. That's ten days to show and 14 days to flower side by side with the males.

Tried some of the White Widow leaves. Got me buzzed for a couple days, but today the THC wasn't strong enough to do much, it anything. I didn't notice any type of high, buzz or dizziness. It was better than bag seed, but I still think it's pointless to smoke them.

Happy Holiday!

Dandaweedman

One thing about a grow report without pictures, at least this thread, there has to be more words to explain.
I for one appreciate the words used for the mental picture, thank you.

Are you saying you want to keep the other flowering plants away from the one that is polenated? Is this for any specific reason or just cause you think the pollen will be viable after you place it in flower?

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Well, thanks for looking. If I had an array of pictures, I'm sure more people would look. The site is free and I'm not one to burn too much space with an array of photos. Words are great as long as they are spaced properly.

I'm thinking that if I put a pollinated plant in with unpollinated plants, the unpollinated plants could get lightly pollinated. I'm figuring on 3 weeks of flowering and pollination before they get moved. This is based on the size of my White Widow buds after 3 weeks.

Will be posting new pictures around the 1st to update the visual aspects of my plants. The delay is so the buds have time to fill out. As you may have seen in the other pictures, they look a little thin.

Dandaweedman

If you put a pollenated plant in there you will be surprised at how little extra pollenation will occur, unless you pollenate the girl in the room, then you may be surprised by how many get that lil extra .

Warm room = bad for pollen.
I for one will be waiting with anticipation for that time

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I'll be careful not to shake the pollinated ICE once they're in with the White Widow. I'm not just seeding a branch, I'm letting the entire plant get seeded. With the White Widow I had one female in with 4 males. Had 1000's tossed many, smoked a few, and yes fresh new seed off the plant got me high, saved about 667. Have about 600 left. There's a landfill somewhere with White Widow a-growin'.

Took a look at the Old Faithful web cam and reminded me of last Christmas when I was there. I was one of those lucky people. I'll bet they all made the light bulb tree ornaments and enjoyed the caroling, free cookies and cocoa and coffee. Actually on the 24th I took a 20 mile hike around the area. It was awesome!

farmergiles

Man I`m following pics or no pics. Don`t think you`re posting into space `cos people are watching.

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Ireland_420

pizzaman, nice thread, i recognise yourself and dan from many years of lurking under various alias', like meself there are far more viewing than there are posting because of situations, laws and general bullshit (and paranoia) in there own jurastictions, thanks for the photos, but believe we're watchin', photos or not! replies or not... sorry if this post sounds paranoid, but it's not paranoia if tha whole world is really out to get ya! good luck with this latest project....

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p.s. merry chistmas everyone!

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Thepizzaguy

I read a lot too

I did upload new pictures, but took them down because my foot was in the shot and the other pic was too dark. Yeah, you have to watch out for your self and other close friends. It could get a little more dangerous out with the recent increasing unemployment. Now if people were allowed to grow and sell weed, we wouldn't have to worry about getting jacked at the mall.

Thepizzaguy

Stuck to original plan to flower ICE and Mazar on Christmas, about 21 days from seed. No stretching as of yet. In the shorter cabinet, I hope they stay under 3 feet until they have been pollinated. bookcase is 3 feet tall. Less 6 inches for lights and 12 inches for the containers. Not much room for height at all.

The WW is flying along. 2 plants are fuller than the others. The taller plants have more bud on the main cola. Tallest plants are 39 inches and are nearly twins. The other 2 are about 5 inches shorter and the main cola isn't filling out like the other 2. One plant has 2 main tops, it was in a light fall accident early in life.

Flower cabinet temperature is a constant 70, but I expect it to rise today as we get up to 60 today. It has been 5-30 degrees all month so the basement will be warmer than normal. The plants are beginning to fill the room with that growing plant smell, and within a week, maybe two, I'll be constantly buzzed by the odor. Temps unknown in the ICE box. May remember to place thermometer in there to check it out. Should be hotter due to space differences of the 2 boxes.

Thanks for the comments, ideas and suggestions. Good luck in the upcoming year. Keep it safe, and don't tell too many people.

Thepizzaguy

Well, I removed a few of the lower branches that were under performing. The plants look good. The remaining buds are doing well and could end up the size of bic lighters. The ICE has started it's stretch phase. I'm looking to get two females. One to stay unpollinated and the other to stick around for some seeds.

Nothing else to report I guess. I did come across a thread that was talking about man hours and how much time you spend on growing the good herb. I did the math, and so far I have spent 6 hours total which included everything from watering, planting seed, putting soil in containers, maintenance and even shopping.

stoneric

I've always heard WW was hard to grow. Is there anything to that?

Dandaweedman

Nice posts, thanks for the details. Should be an excellent finished product, I have heard awesome stuff about both ICE and White Widow.

I know a lady who bought WW the first year it was out and has worked ever since to breed something very special out of it.
Last I heard she was still on it, so there must be a lot of real good phenos that come out of it.

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I haven't had any difficulties with the White Widow. So far all the plants look uniform with big broad leaves. They are budding differently, and I guessing the lighting situation is the cause. One has a fox tail spiral working, one would be a phallic, and the other two while budding well are behind in weight. They look so much better than they did last night. The resin is showing up very well. Even some of the fan leaves have tricromes near the center by the stem.

As for the ICE and Mazar, the ICE now look uniform, but early on I had one that was different. Of course that's the one the light fell on. If was different in hue and overall width of leaves. Also looks like I have my 1st male ICE. There's one "thingy". Not rippin just yet, I'll need a male, and it may be a Calyx, with hairs showing up later. The other three ICE have no signs. Same with 2 Mazar.

My cat stopped by for a snack. At least someone around here is stoned. Crashed out next to the dog of course. I don't have the heart to remove a decent bud to smoke. A 3 gram bud now, will be a 6 gram bud later. As for pics I have very bad lighting so don't expect HT quality here. The pic(s) will be coming soon.

I got a job on Tuesday. Starts Friday. I'm now a Valet Driver for some very upscale joints. It was just what I needed to redirect my attention to growing for personal use.

Happy and Prosperous New Year!

Thepizzaguy

Something interesting came up today.

I was sitting in my room and it was pretty odor free then suddenly there was an odor. I looked in my vegging cabinet and one of my lights had slipped and had landed on a plant. This odor was caused by stress. I removed the light and rehung the light more securely, tending to the baby and the odor went away. I am running out of verticle space in the veg box.

Also, the Mazar is a heavy indica even compared to the WW which is a dominant indica. The Mazar leaves are 2x the size of the WW leaves. I hope I get a female. I can't wait.