Dandaweedman

I hope you get a female as well.
I find that some plants smell a lot more in veg than in flower which is just silly, but ah well maybe they get confused too

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Thepizzaguy

Sorry for a brief absence, I was having issues with the computer, but I can now access the threads.

So as luck would have it, the plant that stank up the room was a female the next day. I now have 3 ICE females and one male. 2 of the females are in the flower box while the other female, the one that was hit by the light remains in the bookcase with her counterpart. The Mazar still not showing. They only had 2 weeks of vegetative grow time and are behind the others.

The White Widow is packing on some nice weight. It looks like I may have a 2 ounce plant, a one ounce plant and 2 half ounce plants. I can't say for sure, the plants just look a little smaller in weight than the one with a very large cola. A few of the pistols have turned bright orange. I don't if this really means anything, but I like to think that the buds are maturing and will be spectacular looking by the end of the month. Add to this the heavy coating of resin and I'm sure to be very pleased.

I didn't back track the thread to see where I left off, and may be repeating myself from here. I did a little work in the box and the lights now go up under the top/ceiling instead of through a hole in the back wall. No more hooks and the top keeps the lights from slipping. I also added 2 lights to the flower box to accommodate the new residents. The total number of lights is 15, or about 320 watts, and 24,000 lumen.

I'm looking at rebuilding and making plans for a 4 foot by 5 foot by 6 foot box made from all new materials. I found this prefab board that is white and highly reflective. It has a name, some kind of paneling. The price is around 6 bucks for a 4 foot by 2.5 foot sheet, and like 13 for a 4x8. The 1x1's are like $1.39. for 8 footers. The new box(s) will be fairly lightweight compared to the 2x4 and drywall crate I have right now.

I just remembered that I did repot the white widow. The soil in the old containers had sunk about 2-3 inches and I was concerned that the since the roots lost a little space, the plants would suffer. So, I added a 2-3 inch layer of soil and was able to slide the root ball from a 2 liter bottle into a new 2 liter bottle. Hopefully over the next 3 weeks, the root ball will expand down into the new soil creating new and bigger buds.

I will work on getting a few pictures up.

Thanks for reading!

Thepizzaguy

Wow! It's been a while with no updates. No pictures either. Just procrastination on my part.

The White Widow is coming along with about 18 days left unless I let them go an extra week. Still haven't snipped any buds to smoke. I'm thinking one more shot of flower nutrients then straight water out from there. Thinking I will lightly water for the last week to get rid of some of the moisture. Hopefully the buds will dry and cure a little faster.

The two ICE plants in the same large flowering area not doing too much and haven't stretched as much as the White Widow. I'm guess here that everything is normal. I don't think they've had any flowering food yet. So next watering everybody gets a shot. Maybe that will kick up the flowering on the younger plants.

The Male and Female ICE plants in the smaller box are still there. I noticed one pollen sack had burst. The male's flowering is greater than the females. The male has reached the top of the box and will have to be tied down or something until the female plant starts putting out more pistol. The male has a good 150 sacks while the female might have 20 hairs, and fewer calyx.

Finally, the Mazar still hasn't shown any sex. I usually get results within the time frame. I am about to give up on them. One plant grew into the light and of course burnt it's main top, so that plant will be stunted to some degree. I don't know if a burnt ?cola? or top will produce any flowers. They have 18 days to prove themselves or it's into the compost heap so I can start a new batch of plants. I don't know much about anything let alone Mazar. I wouldn't know if I'd be missing out on something great.

Still insure if I'm going to crack open a new pack of seeds, or start a few more White Widow. The small box will handle a month of vegetative growing, but to really have confidence for flowering, the plants need to be in the bigger, taller box. The one with more light. Then again I may stop, let things finish out, but I feel I have time to get in another batch before the weather changed in April and increases the temperature in the basement. The plants seem to love 60-70 degrees.

One thing I did notice is that the plants now fill the room with a sweet candyish aroma rather than a straight plant smell. Sorta took me by surprise. How would I answer the question, "What smells so good down there?" Nothing ma, it's just some weed growing....

Dandaweedman

Cut them mazar
Just top them if they are growing in to the light, as long as they aren't like a month in flower.
But since they haven't even shown sex you should be safe.

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I think the males mature quicker.

You may get less seeds than you might as the female won`t have many places ready to receive the pollen but at least all the seeds will have time to mature and become viable.

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Well the entire basement suddenly stinks like fruity bushes. It's even more noticeable at lights on and off. I even thought I caught a hint of odor 2 floors up near the bathroom, but my mom has plants in here room too, and her plants may have been the ones smelling up the place.

The male ICE is being LST'd by the top of the bookcase. I hope the female puts out a lot of pistols soon and buds form. Not much space left and as soon as she's pollinated it's into the bigger more accommodating box.

The Mazar still has a few inches of room left. They are still under the lights. Not stretching as much. I may just move them into the big box and rip the males if I get any.

The perp grow is turning into a little headache. With the new job, the one I didn't have back in November when I started this campaign, I'll have less time to smoke and I think a QP would last 90 days. Not giving up yet, I may have to time my starts later so I won't have the risk of plants outgrowing the smaller box.

About the odor. The last time I grew White widow I let the female become heavily seeds and there was no smell at all. With the experience I am having with the non seeded females, I am leaning towards a theory. It's not a theory anyone is going to like, but it's plausible.

The theory is that the plant smells because it's in heat and once the plant has been satitfied, the smell goes away. Therefore I am saying that at some point, say 50%, a pollinated plant will cease to produce enough odor to the room. But a plant that is not pollinated will smell to high heaven until it is either cut down or pollinated to a certain level. At that point the plant is satisfied and stops smelling.

The odor could be an attractant for certain insects which would then bring pollen to the plant. I can't say the odor attracts pollen even though pollen is alive, it has not natural engine to give it it's own form of locomotion. The pollen relies on wind or insects.

So with that said, I need some type of air purification device. Incense defeats the purpose as it has an odor and attracts attention. However, around here I have other options. The 1st one being an ionic breeze. It's a little black box and sucks air through an intake, through a nutralizing filter, and then back into the room removing odors and dust.

The 2nd option is this contraption that uses water. You fill the bowl with water and some scented oils if you wish, plug it in, and it creates a vortex within the water. The suction forces air and dust through a filter, through the water and then back out into the room.

I'm leaning towards #1 because #2 may cause humidity. Can't locate camera it was right in front of me for weeks. Will keep this updated. Now where is that little black box?

Dandaweedman

Will an ionic breeze actually do anything with the odor? I would stay away from the humidity causing one as well.
Have you thought of an inline fan and carbon filter? It's the best way I have found.

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Mom has plants as well? The family that grows together... LOL

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Ionic Breeze and any other low circulation unit, especially one the air is not going through a scrubber or HEPA filter, will not do anything to degrade odors; according my experience. Growing herbs like basil or strong smelling flowers/shrubs will do a lot more to mask the odor and help the earth at the same time, IMO.

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Thepizzaguy

My mom seems to tolerate it to some degree. The odor isn't so strong today.

The house is full of plants. 7-8 upstairs, 4 in the den three in this room 1 in the living room. 5-6 containers with cacti, and my personal garden in the basement of 10 plants. There's usually more, but I was in Colorado for the summer and only been back here since 10-31-08, and I was able to get in 1 last round of golf on my B-Day, and the weather has been chit since. I brought in all the plants she wanted, but there's usually more. They all look healthy too.

The plant smell is always present, but occasionally, like yesterday, it smells like spicy fruit. Gotta love the plants. House may have one of the better oxygen to dust mite ratios on the block.

Thepizzaguy

1 Mazar is a female, one not showing yet, but looks similar in certain areas as the other.

ICE couple mating well with my help. Only an inch left for the female. Found another socket and cord in a desk. Going to have to move the females into the flower box where there's room. The ICE male can stay cramped in the 3 foot box. I'll let them out to play for a while. I will have a batch of ICE seeds. YES! That was the entire goal of buying seeds. Making copies....

I nearly cut down a white widow today, but held off. I am wanting to smoke for sure. It's been 3 months since my last bowl. I remember it well. I was camping in Utah. It was freezing. The fire kept me warm.

Found Camera. Will get a pre harvest photo, and then a shot of the harvested buds. And if all goes well, a shot of some dry and cured buds. Target date for cut is 2-1-09, but am reserving the right to put it off for a week maybe two.

Dandaweedman

Right on, can't wait for the pictures. That's the best idea, preserve the seeds and stip buying.

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More power to you Pizzadude for making your own seeds.

Haha when you take some bud it`s gonna be great, your tolerance will have gone right down.

Harvest time- ignore the flowering times given by the breeder, the last I grew were supposed to flower for 6-9 weeks, in reality they took 13 weeks and could probably have gone on even further.

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Thepizzaguy

I cut one down to make room for 3. I took the one with 4 nice colas and some smaller buds. I know it's early, but I needed the room and have 3 more white widow flowering. The only thing I have smoked so far is the scissors hash. I have the buds drying on a rack in a desk. I also have the bud leaves drying on some paper. I may cut a plant every week for the next 3 weeks. This will give me 4 harvest of 48 days, 55 days, 62 days, and 69 days. This doesn't include the 7-10 days it took the plants to show sex.

I will certainly consider holding a plant a little longer.

One of the remaining 3 plants is now a leaning tower of buds. It put on some weight over night. Probably water retention. I tied it up and it's no longer leaning. Not much action with the ICE. I'm trying to get one pollinated, but am having a hard time collecting pollen I guess. They are segregated. I need to find a brush or maybe a Q-Tip to pass the pollen from the male to the female. I'm also thinking I should cover the main cola with a plastic bag to collect the pollen. It's kind of like some of the regions in China where there are no bees to pollinated a fruit tree. The village's people manually pollinate these trees.

Thepizzaguy

Based on size and not weight, I have between a 1/4 and 1/2 ounce from my first plant. It's only been a few days since harvest and the buds are still pretty moist. This White Widow is very strong for me, but I haven't really been high since October. 3 hits and I was stoned. It's kind of harsh. Hoping it will mellow out with the left overs in about a month. If not, I'll have to try to cut down on the ferts. It could be me. 30+years of smoking should cause serious damage.

Everything is going well. I even have 2 Mazar females. So, from 4 ICE and 2 Mazar plants, I got 5 females. Really lucky if you ask me. Totals to day

WW 3 females in flower 1 harvested
ICE 3 female 1 pollinated
Mazar 2 females

I might be able to get the perp grow off and running after all. I'm thinking about harvesting a WW every 15 days. That will eat up 45 days, and by the 60th day, an ICE plant may be ready to cut. It might even time out to where after the 3 ICE are harvested, the Mazar would have had close to 90 days flower, and if I take my time, I might be able to get a new strain in the box and ready to harvest within 115 days.

It figures out to 2 plants harvest per month. Leaving me with 1-2 ounces of smoke every 30 days.

Dandaweedman

sweet, you have it all worked out.

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1-22-09:

Yeah. Thanks. I should be happier, I know. I was thinking about the numbers. I'm growing a lot of weed with 8 plants in flower. It's the most I've had. Harvest one plant, and replace it with 5 more. At this rate if my m/f ratio stays highs, I'll have 22 flowering females in a bout 6 weeks.

1-22-09:

I collected some pollen. pollinated the ICE one last time and tossed the male. My veg box is empty. Going to start something in a few days. I have several NRS strains to choose from. I'll also need a few more lights. I may hit 1000 watts yet.

The big box is pretty full. I need to get a fan in there. I had a fan, but took it out about 2 weeks ago. I have plants that haven't seen any wind and will have weaker stems. If I don't get a fan in there, they're not going to be able to support the buds and I'll have strings all over the place.

I guess Thursday is organization day. I figure I can put all the WW in the back right corner. Group the ICE and Mazar in the center with most of the light. Place the fan to the left and pollinate my entire crop. There's bound to be a little loose pollen on a few of the leaves. So, for a wind break, the pollenated ICE will be far left followed by the 2 ICE nad then the 2 Mazar. That should minimized the damage.

Thepizzaguy

Plant counts remains the same. Still planning to cut 2nd plant Saturday and another 2 weeks later. Repeat.

3 White Widow ready to harvest.
3 ICE, 1 pollinated, I hope.
2 Mazar not pollinated, I think.
1/2-1 ounce in a jar curing.
1 basement that smells someone is growing some excellent pot.

Bought some more lights. Have 10 more 23 watters ready to go. Thinking somewhere between starting my 1st non "white" strain Sunday during the Super Bowl and waiting a bit longer to make sure the pollination method I used worked. I don't feel good about the smaller box. The size only allows for 30 days veg and 2 weeks flower. Not tall enough to handle the normal stretch I get with my plants. It's just not tall enough to use straight through.

Thepizzaguy

Well, I tore my calf muscle at work and will take weeks to heal. I was allowed to keep 2 days just for therapy. I currently limp. going down stairs is nearly impossible. The injury happened after I had already pulled the muscle running. It popped, common with a tear when I moved suddenly while standing. How out of shape does a person have to be to tear a calf muscle standing up.

So here's my most recent cut taken 1-29-09. It's a White Widow cola bigger than a pack of 100's and about as wide.



Bud Cut on 1-17-09. After the fresh plant harshness has dried off, it smokes light and smooth with a good up high at 1st followed by a relaxing stone. Bud is from a branch as the plant did not have a main cola. Bud is a little bigger than a Bic Lighter.



Next plant to be cut in say 2 weeks. All plants just doing great. Finally had time to organize and place in a fan. The fan may come in too late, but the stems should gain some strength. Still waiting on starting new strain. For once I am not running out of weed between harvests. I'm going with a chem free flowering on the remaining ICE and Mazar. I think they've been given some ferts once about 2 weeks ago, and it couldn't have been more than 8 ounces the last time I fed all 8 plants.

Pictures are blurry, but I kept up my end. Thanks for reading.