My First Growlog (W/ Pics)

strainwreck · 01-04-2010, 11:46 PM

First the basics..

Lighting: 400w HPS
Medium: 80 organic mix / 20 perlite
Veg Time: 1 month
Feeding History:
Week 1-2 = Water 3 Times a week plain water, no nutes (24hr light)
Week 3-4 = Water 3 Times a week plain water, 1 with 50% 7-9-5 nutes (24hr light)
Week 5 = Water 2 times a week plain water, 2 With 50% 7-9-5 (12/12 light)
Week 6-8 = Water 2 times a week plain water, 1 with 7-9-5 with 50% nutes, 1 with organic bat guano tea, and guano mixed with the top soil (12/12 light)

Genetics:
All grown from seed, 6 females, 5 of descent bagseed, and 1 from a purple nug.

Containers:
Started in Red Cups, moved into 2 Gallon pots at about 12 days, Moved to 5 Gallon Buckets at about 30 days into flower.

Fans/Ventilation:
1 fan in the room, one larger fan with carbon filter for odor control.

So heres some pics..

Growroom:

Day 12:

Day 42:

Day 63:

So they are lookin a little rough right now due to the rescent transplant into the 5 gallon buckets, 1 and 2 are pretty good, 3 and 4 used to be in the same pot, which i manually seperated, they lost alot of leaves. 5 and 6 are still in the same pot, doing ok but no major branching

Those last pics are about 3 days old. In the rescent days the buds have really started to swell. I also see alot more snow on top of the buds. The smaller plants (3 4 5 6) seem to have more crystals on them, even though they are significantly smaller.

Plant 1 has significant bottom branching, 2 has descent bottom branching, and the rest have almost no branching. Since the pictures were taken 4 has really started to branch.

Any guesses on yields? 4 have really descent top colas, but only 2/3 have any branching for secondary buds.

José · 01-05-2010, 04:54 PM

I like.

strainwreck · 01-13-2010, 09:36 AM

Things are looking good, the smell is amazing in the room. Today is their 44th day of flowering. #2 started to turn purple on day 40. The buds are really starting to form. I am starting to see some orange hairs on #1 and #2, but the majority are white. #3 and #4 im guessing are about 5 days behind the rest due to the damage is seperating them on their roots. IMO they have the most tricomes on the buds and leaves. #5 and #6 are looking well, minor side branching is occuring. I think I might have nute burned them a bit, accounting to having to fert 2 plants in one bucket. It has been cold here the last 2 weeks, temps only getting to the mid 70s with the light on, mid 60s with the lights off. They dont seem to be minding too much though. I will post pictures tonight.

Praise Jah · 01-13-2010, 04:20 PM

looks awesome

strainwreck · 01-14-2010, 02:42 AM

here are some pics from this morning right before lights out.

the hairs on 2 look like they are turning pink and orange, my girlfriend will like that

1 is just getting massive, starting to bend at the top from the weight. 3 and 4 are snow covered but not quite as swollen as the others, no good pics of 5-6 but they are doing well

should have watered today but didnt, they are on flush until sunday.

stoneric · 01-14-2010, 01:31 PM

I use wooden dowels when I have that "problem" of the buds getting top heavy. I use 1/4 inch dowels by whatever hieght I need. I make the end I stick in the soil rounded and slide them down right along the inside of the pot so I don't fuck with the roots too much. Then I just lean the bud against the dowel, don't really have to tie it.

strainwreck · 01-14-2010, 02:01 PM

its not too much a problem now, there is only a slight curve in the main cola of 1 plant. I may need to support it depending on how much weight they put on in the next 17 days.. which leads me to..

So are they lookin like they will be ready 17 days? That will be day 62 (2 months) of flowering. Anyone want to throw out a guess on yields? Im guessing 3oz.

farmergiles · 01-14-2010, 02:05 PM

17 days- maybe, they may want a little longer, depends on genetics.

Yeild- 4 oz.

strainwreck · 01-18-2010, 06:55 PM

so a question.. going into the final 2 weeks.. what should my nute schedule look like? sunday, i watered each with a 100% 7-9-5. i also have bat guano (.1-10-.2), should i maybe give a light watering with that on wednesday and water only from there on out?

the buds are really swelling now. ill post pics on wednesday. thanks in advance.

José · 01-18-2010, 09:02 PM

i would say flush right now and don't give any more nutes.

strainwreck · 01-19-2010, 05:34 AM

they really seemed to want the nutes, i can see a significant increase in tricomes in just 1 day, 2 plants top colas have also began to "overflow" on themselves, hard to explain, but they are growing the top colas out significantly. I think plant #2 is gonna need more time than the rest. 1 day after fertilization i see many new pistils growing out of the secondary buds.

is there any benefit to flushing with sugar water vs plain water? any benefit to changing the light to 10-14 for the last bit? how about co2? i have 4 yeast-in-a-bottle co2 generators in the room, will that affect it going into the final weeks? i planned on watering wednesday, then again on sunday, then letting them dry out a bit for the last week.

since i have 3 plants that im pretty sure are gonna take longer (the one different strain, and the 2 that were in the same pot, and had their root system seperated into different pots), maybe ill fert those on wednesday, then start flushing them as well. any ideas/gameplans/ways to speed up time 2 weeks, let me know. thanks in advance.

farmergiles · 01-20-2010, 10:28 AM

Most important thing don't give them any nitrogen.

You want the plants to yellow- this shows that the nutes (especially nitrogen) have all been used up so the bud isn't full of nutes. This gives a better tasting, better burning smoother smoking harvest. Don't worry if they end up a little tatty at the end.

10hr light cycles may help finish late finishing sativas, otherwise not really necessary IMO.

CO2? More efficacious during earlier stages but shouldn't do any harm.

Personally I wouldn't add sugar at this stage, indeed I would just give them plain water. You want to keep the total dissolved solids in the water as low as possible to aid the flushing

strainwreck · 01-27-2010, 06:02 AM

So..

My original guess was completely wrong lol, plant 2 is deffinatly indica dominant, it will DEFFINATLY be ready by this weekend, i see a few cloudy tricomes on the buds, but 60% of the hairs have turned orange, and its just looking delicious. Im gonna wait till the trics are 50/50 cloudy/clear before i pull.

However, all the other ones still have 80%+ hairs white, and no cloudy tricomes. None of them see to be in a rush, with plant 6 deciding to start branching out at the top for the last 2 weeks. Plant 1 is still the biggest, but honestly there hasent been much change in the last week, other than some minor swelling and more glands. It still smells very fresh, no new pistol growth, but no pistol drying/dying either.

do plants 1 3 4 5 6 look like they are sativa dominant? I thought the bagseed was pretty couch lock, but it may not have been grown properly..

So I guess thats where im at, the one i though was sativa is actually indica, and the others are actually sativa. So when I pull the indica I guess im gonna switch to 10-14 to rush the remaining ones.

José · 01-27-2010, 11:07 AM

don't go by the hairs!

there's a huge difference between orange and dead.

once you get ALL the trichs to be cloudy it will be at least another week.

I'm guessing they aren't ready by your description. You're typically going to want to flower anytime from like 9-12 weeks long.

strainwreck · 01-27-2010, 12:59 PM

I just reread the growers bible, it says 50/50 is when you want to harvest for peak ripeness, they say theres a 3-5 day peak ripeness window (or i read it somewhere else), plus waiting another 10 days before i get to harvest might kill me lol i plan on waiting for the sativas. today is day 58 (sunday will be 9 weeks), i figure if its not ready by sunday its close enough, but like i said ive been looking under the magnifier and can deffinatly see some cloudy trics, hopefully by sunday they will be atleast 50% cloudy with maybe a few ambers in the mix

anyone to comment if they look sativa/indica? plenty of high res pics lol

strainwreck · 01-30-2010, 02:33 PM

Here are some pics from day 61 of flowering, right before the lights came on (coloration in some is because the HPS came on)

So I guess the quetion I have is, since they arent ready yet, 5 dont even have 20% orange hairs, and I found no cloudy crystals on them, should I fertilize again? They are all really yellow except the 1 different strain.

Adm1h · 01-30-2010, 10:53 PM

strainwreck, love the newest pics, beautiful. Can you recommend a good seed bank that ships to the US?

strainwreck · 01-31-2010, 09:01 AM

negative, they are all bag seed. im sure someone would be able to help you. Maybe you could find some clones locally, thats what ive just done. I just got 3x cinderella 99 x blueberry clones. Good luck.

farmergiles · 02-01-2010, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strainwreck

So I guess the quetion I have is, since they arent ready yet, 5 dont even have 20% orange hairs, and I found no cloudy crystals on them, should I fertilize again? They are all really yellow except the 1 different strain.

Go easy on the ferts- they look pretty darn healthy to me for this stage. You want them to go yellow at the finish- this shows they have used all the nitrogen. That way you get better burning better tasting stash.

José · 02-01-2010, 02:53 PM

yeah those are awesome. correct me if im wrong farmer but i think the maximum amount of nutes you can use is when the leaves start to get a waxy feeling to them. it's the step before nute burn, but it's easy to miss. is this true at all farmer?

i was lead to believe even though it's the step before nute burn and it doesn't appear to damage the plant, it's still not good for it.

01-04-2010, 11:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	My First Growlog (W/ Pics) First the basics.. Lighting: 400w HPS Medium: 80 organic mix / 20 perlite Veg Time: 1 month Feeding History: Week 1-2 = Water 3 Times a week plain water, no nutes (24hr light) Week 3-4 = Water 3 Times a week plain water, 1 with 50% 7-9-5 nutes (24hr light) Week 5 = Water 2 times a week plain water, 2 With 50% 7-9-5 (12/12 light) Week 6-8 = Water 2 times a week plain water, 1 with 7-9-5 with 50% nutes, 1 with organic bat guano tea, and guano mixed with the top soil (12/12 light) Genetics: All grown from seed, 6 females, 5 of descent bagseed, and 1 from a purple nug. Containers: Started in Red Cups, moved into 2 Gallon pots at about 12 days, Moved to 5 Gallon Buckets at about 30 days into flower. Fans/Ventilation: 1 fan in the room, one larger fan with carbon filter for odor control. So heres some pics.. Growroom: Day 12: Day 42: Day 63: So they are lookin a little rough right now due to the rescent transplant into the 5 gallon buckets, 1 and 2 are pretty good, 3 and 4 used to be in the same pot, which i manually seperated, they lost alot of leaves. 5 and 6 are still in the same pot, doing ok but no major branching Those last pics are about 3 days old. In the rescent days the buds have really started to swell. I also see alot more snow on top of the buds. The smaller plants (3 4 5 6) seem to have more crystals on them, even though they are significantly smaller. Plant 1 has significant bottom branching, 2 has descent bottom branching, and the rest have almost no branching. Since the pictures were taken 4 has really started to branch. Any guesses on yields? 4 have really descent top colas, but only 2/3 have any branching for secondary buds.

01-14-2010, 02:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,802 Thanks: 2,281 Thanked 3,748 Times in 2,553 Posts	17 days- maybe, they may want a little longer, depends on genetics. Yeild- 4 oz. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

01-20-2010, 10:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,802 Thanks: 2,281 Thanked 3,748 Times in 2,553 Posts	Most important thing don't give them any nitrogen. You want the plants to yellow- this shows that the nutes (especially nitrogen) have all been used up so the bud isn't full of nutes. This gives a better tasting, better burning smoother smoking harvest. Don't worry if they end up a little tatty at the end. 10hr light cycles may help finish late finishing sativas, otherwise not really necessary IMO. CO2? More efficacious during earlier stages but shouldn't do any harm. Personally I wouldn't add sugar at this stage, indeed I would just give them plain water. You want to keep the total dissolved solids in the water as low as possible to aid the flushing __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

01-30-2010, 02:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Here are some pics from day 61 of flowering, right before the lights came on (coloration in some is because the HPS came on) So I guess the quetion I have is, since they arent ready yet, 5 dont even have 20% orange hairs, and I found no cloudy crystals on them, should I fertilize again? They are all really yellow except the 1 different strain. Last edited by strainwreck; 01-30-2010 at 02:45 PM.

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01-05-2010, 04:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,364 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	I like.

01-13-2010, 09:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Things are looking good, the smell is amazing in the room. Today is their 44th day of flowering. #2 started to turn purple on day 40. The buds are really starting to form. I am starting to see some orange hairs on #1 and #2, but the majority are white. #3 and #4 im guessing are about 5 days behind the rest due to the damage is seperating them on their roots. IMO they have the most tricomes on the buds and leaves. #5 and #6 are looking well, minor side branching is occuring. I think I might have nute burned them a bit, accounting to having to fert 2 plants in one bucket. It has been cold here the last 2 weeks, temps only getting to the mid 70s with the light on, mid 60s with the lights off. They dont seem to be minding too much though. I will post pictures tonight.

01-13-2010, 04:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Praise Jah YaHookan Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 417 Thanks: 28 Thanked 35 Times in 30 Posts	looks awesome

01-14-2010, 02:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	here are some pics from this morning right before lights out. the hairs on 2 look like they are turning pink and orange, my girlfriend will like that 1 is just getting massive, starting to bend at the top from the weight. 3 and 4 are snow covered but not quite as swollen as the others, no good pics of 5-6 but they are doing well should have watered today but didnt, they are on flush until sunday.

01-14-2010, 01:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
stoneric bougeman Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,644 Thanks: 703 Thanked 1,512 Times in 1,067 Posts	I use wooden dowels when I have that "problem" of the buds getting top heavy. I use 1/4 inch dowels by whatever hieght I need. I make the end I stick in the soil rounded and slide them down right along the inside of the pot so I don't fuck with the roots too much. Then I just lean the bud against the dowel, don't really have to tie it.

01-14-2010, 02:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	its not too much a problem now, there is only a slight curve in the main cola of 1 plant. I may need to support it depending on how much weight they put on in the next 17 days.. which leads me to.. So are they lookin like they will be ready 17 days? That will be day 62 (2 months) of flowering. Anyone want to throw out a guess on yields? Im guessing 3oz.

01-18-2010, 06:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	so a question.. going into the final 2 weeks.. what should my nute schedule look like? sunday, i watered each with a 100% 7-9-5. i also have bat guano (.1-10-.2), should i maybe give a light watering with that on wednesday and water only from there on out? the buds are really swelling now. ill post pics on wednesday. thanks in advance.

01-18-2010, 09:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,364 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	i would say flush right now and don't give any more nutes.

01-19-2010, 05:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	they really seemed to want the nutes, i can see a significant increase in tricomes in just 1 day, 2 plants top colas have also began to "overflow" on themselves, hard to explain, but they are growing the top colas out significantly. I think plant #2 is gonna need more time than the rest. 1 day after fertilization i see many new pistils growing out of the secondary buds. is there any benefit to flushing with sugar water vs plain water? any benefit to changing the light to 10-14 for the last bit? how about co2? i have 4 yeast-in-a-bottle co2 generators in the room, will that affect it going into the final weeks? i planned on watering wednesday, then again on sunday, then letting them dry out a bit for the last week. since i have 3 plants that im pretty sure are gonna take longer (the one different strain, and the 2 that were in the same pot, and had their root system seperated into different pots), maybe ill fert those on wednesday, then start flushing them as well. any ideas/gameplans/ways to speed up time 2 weeks, let me know. thanks in advance.

01-27-2010, 06:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	So.. My original guess was completely wrong lol, plant 2 is deffinatly indica dominant, it will DEFFINATLY be ready by this weekend, i see a few cloudy tricomes on the buds, but 60% of the hairs have turned orange, and its just looking delicious. Im gonna wait till the trics are 50/50 cloudy/clear before i pull. However, all the other ones still have 80%+ hairs white, and no cloudy tricomes. None of them see to be in a rush, with plant 6 deciding to start branching out at the top for the last 2 weeks. Plant 1 is still the biggest, but honestly there hasent been much change in the last week, other than some minor swelling and more glands. It still smells very fresh, no new pistol growth, but no pistol drying/dying either. do plants 1 3 4 5 6 look like they are sativa dominant? I thought the bagseed was pretty couch lock, but it may not have been grown properly.. So I guess thats where im at, the one i though was sativa is actually indica, and the others are actually sativa. So when I pull the indica I guess im gonna switch to 10-14 to rush the remaining ones.

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01-27-2010, 11:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,364 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	don't go by the hairs! there's a huge difference between orange and dead. once you get ALL the trichs to be cloudy it will be at least another week. I'm guessing they aren't ready by your description. You're typically going to want to flower anytime from like 9-12 weeks long.

01-27-2010, 12:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I just reread the growers bible, it says 50/50 is when you want to harvest for peak ripeness, they say theres a 3-5 day peak ripeness window (or i read it somewhere else), plus waiting another 10 days before i get to harvest might kill me lol i plan on waiting for the sativas. today is day 58 (sunday will be 9 weeks), i figure if its not ready by sunday its close enough, but like i said ive been looking under the magnifier and can deffinatly see some cloudy trics, hopefully by sunday they will be atleast 50% cloudy with maybe a few ambers in the mix anyone to comment if they look sativa/indica? plenty of high res pics lol

01-30-2010, 10:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
Adm1h BlueMoonshine Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	strainwreck, love the newest pics, beautiful. Can you recommend a good seed bank that ships to the US?

01-31-2010, 09:01 AM	#18 (permalink)
strainwreck YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	negative, they are all bag seed. im sure someone would be able to help you. Maybe you could find some clones locally, thats what ive just done. I just got 3x cinderella 99 x blueberry clones. Good luck.

02-01-2010, 02:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,364 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	yeah those are awesome. correct me if im wrong farmer but i think the maximum amount of nutes you can use is when the leaves start to get a waxy feeling to them. it's the step before nute burn, but it's easy to miss. is this true at all farmer? i was lead to believe even though it's the step before nute burn and it doesn't appear to damage the plant, it's still not good for it.