Growing a Mystery Indica...

SmokeaJoint · 03-23-2010, 07:31 PM

Its been a long time coming. I've been trying for a few months now to get a successful indoor setup. I finally got one! My plants are a week old at this posting, and they look awesome! Here are some pics of the plants and the setup. Name: Grow box 1.jpg
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cantSEEme · 03-23-2010, 08:26 PM

id recommend to carefully separate all those seedlings and to put each one in a separate small container. you'll avoid any root problems that's bound to pop up as they get older/bigger. another thing would be to move those plants up a little closer to the lights.

good luck on your grow!

SmokeaJoint · 03-23-2010, 09:03 PM

Actually, some of those little beauties are going to friends, so space won't be an issue for too much longer. I put those pots on top of a platform after I finished taking pics so theyre basking about 3 inches from the bulbs. I only have room for two plants in the end, but for now theyre small enough to co-exist.

jmanay04 · 03-23-2010, 09:08 PM

Hey, Love thoes pics, I took 'em, and i built the box!!! all in too days, man i love those little ones!!!! I cant wait till i make my own, so i can adopt one of them!!

SmokeaJoint · 03-24-2010, 11:10 AM

It will be soon man, just wait till they recover from the first transplant.

Praise Jah · 03-24-2010, 11:15 AM

nice setup.

good luck dude.

stoneric · 03-24-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeaJoint

Actually, some of those little beauties are going to friends, so space won't be an issue for too much longer. I put those pots on top of a platform after I finished taking pics so theyre basking about 3 inches from the bulbs. I only have room for two plants in the end, but for now theyre small enough to co-exist.

You'd be amazed how fast roots grow. The roots will intertwine in no time if they already haven't done so. There really is no good reason to have more than 1 plant per container. Start them in 3 or 4 inch pots and let them develop a rootball before putting them in a container that size.

SmokeaJoint · 03-28-2010, 08:34 PM

I hope this isnt a question everyone asks, but is it possible to change the light cycle right now, see which ones are female plants, and then go back to the vegetative stage before they begin to bud? I only have room for two plants and I want them both to be female.

Praise Jah · 03-29-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeaJoint

I hope this isnt a question everyone asks, but is it possible to change the light cycle right now, see which ones are female plants, and then go back to the vegetative stage before they begin to bud? I only have room for two plants and I want them both to be female.

i've heard a couple different opinions. Some say it works and others say it'll lead to hermies.

offtheyells · 03-29-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeaJoint

I hope this isnt a question everyone asks, but is it possible to change the light cycle right now, see which ones are female plants, and then go back to the vegetative stage before they begin to bud? I only have room for two plants and I want them both to be female.

too early mate, let them grow 6 or so internodes first, take a cutting of each plant then force flower the originals, this way if 1 or 2 are female you can use the cutting(s) as mothers or your next batch

it usually adds quiet abit of time to revert back to veg stage after they go into flower, yet another good reason to have clones as back up.

TIG · 03-29-2010, 10:01 AM

I have read that you can flower a single branch on a plant by tying in down and covering at night. The branch will show sex and then you let in revert back to veg with the rest of the plant. anybody tried this? I think it involved making a small tent with some black trash bag material. seems like it might be too much hassle to try and block all light to just one branch.

marcnh · 03-29-2010, 10:20 AM

Its too early to tell the sex. In about 5-6 weeks you can pre-sex them. Just look for two really tiny white hairs (female) growing out of the nodes. You may need a magnifying glass.
If you haven't already done so, you SHOULD separate them. The roots will get tangled like a couple dreadlocks when you try to take out the males. You wont be happy.
You also need a LOT more light. Get 12 42 watt cfls at wal mart for 9 bucks each. Put a splitter on each socket. Trust me you will be greatly disappointed if you go through with these lights. The lights should be as close to the plant as possible without heat problems.

Also read up on growing weed!

SmokeaJoint · 03-29-2010, 10:40 AM

Seeing as the internode length is almost nothing, I have plenty of light. Also, I have read up on growing. I have the plants set on a raised platform, so the tops are maybe 3 inches from the bulbs. Theres around 600 watts in that box, theres no way in hell I dont have enough light. I have grown before. Never on such a small scale, and never in a dresser. I usually get fem seeds, but money has been a real issue. For two plants, I think 6 CFLs is plenty. I refuse to clone, also on account of money. Since the strain is indica dominant, I dont see an issue with plant height. If there becomes one, I can do LST next time.

farmergiles · 03-29-2010, 10:54 AM

Cloning will save money, surely? Seeds cost money, clones are free if you make them yourself.

The bulbs are probably 600w equivalent- unless there are another 55 of them out of shot! Your average cfl is about 5-15w unless you get the big horticultural ones.

If they are not stretching then you're doing ok for lumens now but they will certainly benefit from more light once they get a little bigger.
You can move those bulbs pretty close to big plants with no ill effects. Be a little bit careful with seedlings though...

SmokeaJoint · 03-29-2010, 10:57 AM

I got the 27 watt, and as a matter of fact I remember its not the equivalency its the actual watts so your right. Clones, I am nervous about because of how sensitive they are at first. Seeds, you just plant, let sprout, and be happy. That, and I haven't been able to find any rooting hormone anywhere.

farmergiles · 03-29-2010, 11:07 AM

Oh ok, six of those gives 162 watts which is fine for now.

Honey works fine instead of rooting gel.

Once a clone has rooted it is as vigorous as a seedling. Even if they all die you havn't lost anything.

SmokeaJoint · 03-29-2010, 11:12 AM

Honey? Are you serious? Dude thats awesome! So, now I need a clean razor, some honey, and some room to have clones in. For 6 clones, about how many watts should I have? And about what size pot (in inches) do I need for a clone? Shit, Imma have to research cloning some more. Its cool if I put the clone in soil instead of in rockwool or something right?

offtheyells · 03-29-2010, 11:15 AM

ok, was just pointing out that cloning before force sexing would be of benefit as re-vegging an unknown strain isnt always a great idea.

research cuttings will give u alot of info, if u aint got a propagator, use a clear plastic tub or cup to cover spray the cover regularly to keep it very humid and lift a few times a day to circulate stale air.
nursery soil is fine

farmergiles · 03-29-2010, 11:19 AM

True that ^

Here's a whole thread about cloning. http://www.yahooka.com/forum/nursery...tix-pics.html?

I never used honey myself but that tip comes from a legit source.

Rockwool is easier than soil but you can clone into soil without too much trouble.

SmokeaJoint · 03-29-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by offtheyells

ok, was just pointing out that cloning before force sexing would be of benefit as re-vegging an unknown strain isnt always a great idea.

research cuttings will give u alot of info, if u aint got a propagator, use a clear plastic tub or cup to cover spray the cover regularly to keep it very humid and lift a few times a day to circulate stale air.
nursery soil is fine

Ok, good to know. I know to keep the clones in a humid environment because they have no root system to absorb moisture. Another question. Say I have the worst luck in the world and they all either die off or are males. Are males smokeable insomuch as they can get you high? Because I may just keep the two strongest plants and either give away the rest or "dispose" of them. After all, I don't wanna stress them by having the root balls all entangled. Its starting to seem like space is going to be the main issue.

03-23-2010, 08:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
cantSEEme Cold School Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,019 Thanks: 152 Thanked 127 Times in 457 Posts	id recommend to carefully separate all those seedlings and to put each one in a separate small container. you'll avoid any root problems that's bound to pop up as they get older/bigger. another thing would be to move those plants up a little closer to the lights. good luck on your grow! __________________

03-29-2010, 10:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,802 Thanks: 2,281 Thanked 3,748 Times in 2,553 Posts	Cloning will save money, surely? Seeds cost money, clones are free if you make them yourself. The bulbs are probably 600w equivalent- unless there are another 55 of them out of shot! Your average cfl is about 5-15w unless you get the big horticultural ones. If they are not stretching then you're doing ok for lumens now but they will certainly benefit from more light once they get a little bigger. You can move those bulbs pretty close to big plants with no ill effects. Be a little bit careful with seedlings though... __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

03-29-2010, 11:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,802 Thanks: 2,281 Thanked 3,748 Times in 2,553 Posts	Oh ok, six of those gives 162 watts which is fine for now. Honey works fine instead of rooting gel. Once a clone has rooted it is as vigorous as a seedling. Even if they all die you havn't lost anything. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice

03-29-2010, 11:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
offtheyells YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	ok, was just pointing out that cloning before force sexing would be of benefit as re-vegging an unknown strain isnt always a great idea. research cuttings will give u alot of info, if u aint got a propagator, use a clear plastic tub or cup to cover spray the cover regularly to keep it very humid and lift a few times a day to circulate stale air. nursery soil is fine Last edited by offtheyells; 03-29-2010 at 11:20 AM.

03-29-2010, 11:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
farmergiles Yahookan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sick of the hatred and the lies Posts: 7,802 Thanks: 2,281 Thanked 3,748 Times in 2,553 Posts	True that ^ Here's a whole thread about cloning. http://www.yahooka.com/forum/nursery...tix-pics.html? I never used honey myself but that tip comes from a legit source. Rockwool is easier than soil but you can clone into soil without too much trouble. __________________ Cultivate a stoic calmness *Fuck the Monkeys* Every Kind of Vice Last edited by farmergiles; 03-29-2010 at 11:24 AM.

03-23-2010, 09:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
jmanay04 Jmanay04 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: InDaUSA Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hey, Love thoes pics, I took 'em, and i built the box!!! all in too days, man i love those little ones!!!! I cant wait till i make my own, so i can adopt one of them!!

03-24-2010, 11:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Praise Jah YaHookan Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 417 Thanks: 28 Thanked 35 Times in 30 Posts	nice setup. good luck dude.

03-29-2010, 10:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
TIG novice grower Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Valhalla, hall of the slain Posts: 68 Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 22 Posts	I have read that you can flower a single branch on a plant by tying in down and covering at night. The branch will show sex and then you let in revert back to veg with the rest of the plant. anybody tried this? I think it involved making a small tent with some black trash bag material. seems like it might be too much hassle to try and block all light to just one branch.

03-29-2010, 10:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
marcnh JUST HERE TO LEARN Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its too early to tell the sex. In about 5-6 weeks you can pre-sex them. Just look for two really tiny white hairs (female) growing out of the nodes. You may need a magnifying glass. If you haven't already done so, you SHOULD separate them. The roots will get tangled like a couple dreadlocks when you try to take out the males. You wont be happy. You also need a LOT more light. Get 12 42 watt cfls at wal mart for 9 bucks each. Put a splitter on each socket. Trust me you will be greatly disappointed if you go through with these lights. The lights should be as close to the plant as possible without heat problems. Also read up on growing weed!

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