New Age Beleifs

BionicLungSmoker · 03-30-2006, 03:33 PM

Anyone else share these Beliefs? I think alot of this makes sense

"We are all extensions of, manifestations of, The Universal Creative Source temporarily in human bodies in order to learn and experience. We are all perfect parts of the Universal Creative Source - the God-Force, Goddess Energy, Great Spirit - we always have been, and always will be."

"We, who are part of the ONENESS, get to experience the illusion of separate individual identity. In God we are the music - so we would never have experienced hearing music without this illusion of separation."

"This is Truly a New Age in which we have more, and clearer, access to the Higher Mind and to healing energy from higher vibrational sources than ever before in human recorded history."

"Each of us has lived multiple lifetimes. We have experienced every aspect of the human experience."

"It is old souls who are awakening to enlightenment in this New Age. The majority of people on the planet are not old souls."

• Belief in Deity
God is the impersonal life force, consciousness, ultimate truth and reality, the incorporeal, formless cosmic order personified within all people and matter. God is all and all are God.

• Incarnations
Most believe there are no particular incarnations to worship, as all in the universe are embodiments of God.

• Origin of Universe and Life
The universe, life, and matter were not created by God but "are" God. The universe and life emerged out of the creative power of the eternal universal life force.

• After Death
Some believe in continual rebirth--no death--as life is spirit. Some believe that our souls rest for a time before deciding on a new body (or bodies). Heaven and hell are states of consciousness, self-imposed, due to ignorance of God as all.

• Why Evil?
No original sin, no Satan, and no evil. Most believe people make "mistakes" when they are ignorant of the power of goodness, which is God, within themselves and others. Some believe evil is perpetuated through accumulation of past-life wrongs and spiritual ignorance.

• Salvation
Salvation lies in the realization of oneness with the impersonal life force. Awareness can be heightened through methods that induce altered states of consciousness, e.g., hypnosis, meditation, music, drugs. Spiritual "tools" include crystals, tarot cards, amulets, channeling, fortunetellers and psychics. Some believe the salvation of humanity will occur when a critical mass is reached, when people converge in experiencing their oneness with God and with each other. This will bring a New World Order or new Planetary Order, resulting in oneness of civilization and one-world government, peace, and harmony.

• Undeserved Suffering
Suffering is the result of greed, hatred, and spiritual ignorance in a person's, or humanity's, past lifetimes, which returns as suffering (karma). Suffering is sometimes viewed as occurring for a specific purpose, to further spiritual growth and learn a life lesson. Suffering is also seen as illusory, in that it results from attachment to bodily pleasure and pain, and only the universal life force within, God, truly exists.

snapshot · 03-30-2006, 03:45 PM

I think it's a good idea. I think it's a lot more comprehensive and scientific and makes a lot of sense, but only if you want it to.

There are certain things that are just pushing it. For one is the religious overtone of the language. I'm still hung up on anyone who doesn't use E-prime. Even I don't. But I try to use it when it's important to do so.

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"We are all extensions of, manifestations of, The Universal Creative Source temporarily in human bodies in order to learn and experience. We are all perfect parts of the Universal Creative Source - the God-Force, Goddess Energy, Great Spirit - we always have been, and always will be." [Absolutist statement

"We, who are part of the ONENESS, get to experience the illusion of separate individual identity. In God we are the music - so we would never have experienced hearing music without this illusion of separation."

"This is Truly a New Age in which we have more, and clearer, access to the Higher Mind and to healing energy from higher vibrational sources than ever before in human recorded history."

"Each of us has lived multiple lifetimes. We have experienced every aspect of the human experience."

"It is old souls who are awakening to enlightenment in this New Age. The majority of people on the planet are not old souls."

Look at all those Is's and Are's. Those statements are not implying thatThis is what we feel. This is what we believe. We have no scientific proof. No, what it's saying is We are these things. There's no ambiguity about it and therefore no doubts. Those statements come from a human or group of humans who think they know more than they really do. Anyone is fooling themselves who honestly believes such unsubstantiated claims.

The very language is a turn off. If they were so spiritual they'd have picked up what the higher intelligences are using to communicate language.

Waves · 03-30-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicLungSmoker

Anyone else share these Beliefs? I think alot of this makes sense

"We are all extensions of, manifestations of, The Universal Creative Source temporarily in human bodies in order to learn and experience. We are all perfect parts of the Universal Creative Source - the God-Force, Goddess Energy, Great Spirit - we always have been, and always will be."

I think that would be a good one if they just not been so pretentious about it. "We are all extensions of energy/consciousness that has always been and always will be" would be just as good.

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"We, who are part of the ONENESS, get to experience the illusion of separate individual identity. In God we are the music - so we would never have experienced hearing music without this illusion of separation."

Again they go overboard. thats the thing i notice about new age beliefs. they start out all right but once you start to get interested the plop shit like "in god we are the music" on you. That first sentance seemed just fine to me.

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"This is Truly a New Age in which we have more, and clearer, access to the Higher Mind and to healing energy from higher vibrational sources than ever before in human recorded history."

i dont buy the "higher mind" and "healing energy" crap. They should just say "we are at a point in humanity when we have more, clearer access to information, and KNOW MORE than ever before." but they have to go about being so esoteric.

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"Each of us has lived multiple lifetimes. We have experienced every aspect of the human experience."

I like this one. Many of us in the west believe we live one life and then we die and then we disapear or something. While they once again go overboard with saying we have "experienced every aspect" of the human experience (why be here then if your just repeating yourself?) i really like the first part.

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"It is old souls who are awakening to enlightenment in this New Age. The majority of people on the planet are not old souls."

I dont like this one. They sort of contradict themselves by saying "you have always been, and always will be" and then plopping this b.s. on you. if you have always been then how are our 'souls' a different "age?" all souls must be the same "age" because there is no "age" when it comes to soul. its infinite.

Those are just a few but it gives you my overall attitude towards new-age belief. It tends to be just as limiting as other religions but overall i think its ok.

snapshot · 03-30-2006, 04:20 PM

I think it's OK too. It's better at least.

Eh, OK for now.

Paranoid Android · 03-30-2006, 04:29 PM

Great post BLS, I agree with all of it I think...

it's weird that so many people can share the exact same beliefs and ideas as one another.

snapshot · 03-30-2006, 04:35 PM

It's weird because you think you came up with it all on your own?

Kishar · 03-30-2006, 04:46 PM

I've always believed in something like that. I believe this whole universe/s is God. We are God, everything we can see smell experience touch is made by god and the whole universe is ours to explore.
Its the ultimate illusion in-between being "with" god. I feel each chance he gives us life it's for experience and to become wise and be able to move on to the next stage, a higer being or higher intelligence.In the void time doesnt exist so, heck we've all, I mean all of us waited 4 1/2 billion years to get here. When we die I dont know how long the next wait will be but I honsetly believe if your kind,loving, do good for others and basically just do whats right in life we will all experience something our tiny infantile brains cant began to comprehend once we move on. Thats my faith. I'll smoke one to that.

Paranoid Android · 03-30-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by snapshot182

It's weird because you think you came up with it all on your own?

No, but when I feel something is the truth, or close to it, I just find it weird that someone can feel the exact same way.

Great minds think alike.

Sidenote: I was thinking what if there really is no "good" or "bad", those words are subjective. In the great scheme of things, animals kill animals, humans kill humans (as sad as it is), but what if it just really doesn't matter? What is, just is. Ya'know?

snapshot · 03-30-2006, 05:03 PM

To the first part, -- I hope you don't mind getting to know me because I'm not telling you how to be -- I don't see things in terms of "true" and "untrue". Everything should be considered "either".

Truth isn't an essential thing to "know". Just know, anyway.When you see a truth it doesn't present itself as one, you claim it as such. And it doesn't work by itself. You have to know how to use it. But I don't think we see "truth" in anything at all. Because the real truth is to know it's truth. That can't be known, even if you are in actuality judging a "truth" with your perception and are correct in your assumption. It is still just an opinion.

To me there is no truth. And that I see as a truth. To me it's just a realization of what this world is that we are living in. We don't know if were in some computer simulation or one in a series of finite universes meant for scrap in 3456 billion years. It doesn't matter because we don't know. We can only go off of what we have to work with.

snapshot · 03-30-2006, 05:08 PM

RE: Sidenote

The words "good" and bad" are subjective, but there meaning is in that they appear to acknowledge the yin and yang of their perspective connotations. They are useful in some cases, but widening the lens will always show the bigger picture, and if you think about it, they show nothing more than a example of the nature of duality.

bongload · 03-30-2006, 05:12 PM

Believe in nothing man

snapshot · 03-30-2006, 05:19 PM

agnostisismismismism .

fucking isms. They are addictive. I working my way off this one now.

03-30-2006, 03:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
BionicLungSmoker Jedi Master Join Date: May 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 4,428 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	New Age Beleifs Anyone else share these Beliefs? I think alot of this makes sense "We are all extensions of, manifestations of, The Universal Creative Source temporarily in human bodies in order to learn and experience. We are all perfect parts of the Universal Creative Source - the God-Force, Goddess Energy, Great Spirit - we always have been, and always will be." "We, who are part of the ONENESS, get to experience the illusion of separate individual identity. In God we are the music - so we would never have experienced hearing music without this illusion of separation." "This is Truly a New Age in which we have more, and clearer, access to the Higher Mind and to healing energy from higher vibrational sources than ever before in human recorded history." "Each of us has lived multiple lifetimes. We have experienced every aspect of the human experience." "It is old souls who are awakening to enlightenment in this New Age. The majority of people on the planet are not old souls." • Belief in Deity God is the impersonal life force, consciousness, ultimate truth and reality, the incorporeal, formless cosmic order personified within all people and matter. God is all and all are God. • Incarnations Most believe there are no particular incarnations to worship, as all in the universe are embodiments of God. • Origin of Universe and Life The universe, life, and matter were not created by God but "are" God. The universe and life emerged out of the creative power of the eternal universal life force. • After Death Some believe in continual rebirth--no death--as life is spirit. Some believe that our souls rest for a time before deciding on a new body (or bodies). Heaven and hell are states of consciousness, self-imposed, due to ignorance of God as all. • Why Evil? No original sin, no Satan, and no evil. Most believe people make "mistakes" when they are ignorant of the power of goodness, which is God, within themselves and others. Some believe evil is perpetuated through accumulation of past-life wrongs and spiritual ignorance. • Salvation Salvation lies in the realization of oneness with the impersonal life force. Awareness can be heightened through methods that induce altered states of consciousness, e.g., hypnosis, meditation, music, drugs. Spiritual "tools" include crystals, tarot cards, amulets, channeling, fortunetellers and psychics. Some believe the salvation of humanity will occur when a critical mass is reached, when people converge in experiencing their oneness with God and with each other. This will bring a New World Order or new Planetary Order, resulting in oneness of civilization and one-world government, peace, and harmony. • Undeserved Suffering Suffering is the result of greed, hatred, and spiritual ignorance in a person's, or humanity's, past lifetimes, which returns as suffering (karma). Suffering is sometimes viewed as occurring for a specific purpose, to further spiritual growth and learn a life lesson. Suffering is also seen as illusory, in that it results from attachment to bodily pleasure and pain, and only the universal life force within, God, truly exists. __________________ "Our bodies are prisons, for our souls. All flesh decays... death turns all to ash. And thus, death frees every soul."

03-30-2006, 04:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
snapshot no custom. customize Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The unOriginal Rorschach. Posts: 19,305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	I think it's OK too. It's better at least. Eh, OK for now. __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. -Richard Dawkins

03-30-2006, 04:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Paranoid Android Down is the new up. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 2,997 Thanks: 29 Thanked 36 Times in 31 Posts	Great post BLS, I agree with all of it I think... it's weird that so many people can share the exact same beliefs and ideas as one another. __________________ "We're not scaremongering, this is really happening."

03-30-2006, 04:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
snapshot no custom. customize Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The unOriginal Rorschach. Posts: 19,305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	It's weird because you think you came up with it all on your own? __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. -Richard Dawkins

03-30-2006, 04:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kishar loading user title.. Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: subcutaneous layer Posts: 2,201 Thanks: 117 Thanked 197 Times in 137 Posts	I've always believed in something like that. I believe this whole universe/s is God. We are God, everything we can see smell experience touch is made by god and the whole universe is ours to explore. Its the ultimate illusion in-between being "with" god. I feel each chance he gives us life it's for experience and to become wise and be able to move on to the next stage, a higer being or higher intelligence.In the void time doesnt exist so, heck we've all, I mean all of us waited 4 1/2 billion years to get here. When we die I dont know how long the next wait will be but I honsetly believe if your kind,loving, do good for others and basically just do whats right in life we will all experience something our tiny infantile brains cant began to comprehend once we move on. Thats my faith. I'll smoke one to that. __________________ So, if a stranger walked up to you and poured pebble like seeds into your hand and then said, plant them and your harvest can be made into rope cloth or paper, it could help the sick or intoxicate. What would you say? Would you keep the seeds or chuck them away? RollREDRoll

03-30-2006, 05:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
snapshot no custom. customize Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The unOriginal Rorschach. Posts: 19,305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	To the first part, -- I hope you don't mind getting to know me because I'm not telling you how to be -- I don't see things in terms of "true" and "untrue". Everything should be considered "either". Truth isn't an essential thing to "know". Just know, anyway.When you see a truth it doesn't present itself as one, you claim it as such. And it doesn't work by itself. You have to know how to use it. But I don't think we see "truth" in anything at all. Because the real truth is to *know* it's truth. That can't be known, even if you are in actuality judging a "truth" with your perception and are correct in your assumption. It is still just an opinion. To me there is no truth. And that I see as a truth. To me it's just a realization of what this world is that we are living in. We don't know if were in some computer simulation or one in a series of finite universes meant for scrap in 3456 billion years. It doesn't matter because we don't know. We can only go off of what we have to work with. __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. -Richard Dawkins

03-30-2006, 05:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
snapshot no custom. customize Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The unOriginal Rorschach. Posts: 19,305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	RE: Sidenote The words "good" and bad" are subjective, but there meaning is in that they appear to acknowledge the yin and yang of their perspective connotations. They are useful in some cases, but widening the lens will always show the bigger picture, and if you think about it, they show nothing more than a example of the nature of duality. __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. -Richard Dawkins

03-30-2006, 05:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
bongload ^ it's an acronym Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,709 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Believe in nothing man

03-30-2006, 05:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
snapshot no custom. customize Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The unOriginal Rorschach. Posts: 19,305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	agnostisismismismism . fucking isms. They are addictive. I working my way off this one now. __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. -Richard Dawkins

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