Budzilla420

Ok some of us here have seen the kitty killer video, which made me nausious, but this clip shows an actual human being(btw Warning that link shows, well a guy getting blown away, and while it isent very graphic, i like posting here and dont wanna be banned so...be warned) being killed and doesnt have any kind of effect on me, in fact its kind of sad that id rather 1000 of that guy be killed everyday than 1 kitten be stomped by a cheap asian whore ever. This made me think as to how i could value an animals life a lot more than a humans life, and i noticed why, humans put themselves more often than not in the place to be killed and give people reasons to kill them, and when they do they can protect themselves, animals really dont have any protection (especially a kitten you fuckin asian cunt) and often dont go into situations that will get them killed. So looking at it, its sad to say i dont feel sorry for most humans who die, but i feel sorry for most of the animals that die all the time. (except cows, chickens, deer, pigs, turkeys and all the other good tasting ones) Who else has a mind set like this?

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norcalbudboy

If a saw a mean person and a mean dog drowning, id try to rescue the dog.

Mercury

I sort of have the same mind set. It's mainely due to the fact that there are so many humans. It's been said that we are in heavy competition with the rat for the highest populated mamals on this earth.

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Jack

The kitten is cute.

You wouldn't think twice about stamping on a snail.

iamislegrown

This is right on, all life has a right to exist from the lowly ant to the polar bear. I too was disgusted by the kitten video, but that said there are cultures where they eat dogs and cats like we eat chicken. Kind of like the seal hunt controversy here in atlantic canada they always have photo op's with a cute baby seal pup and all the while knowing that these pups are not hunted until they are more mature looking like their parents.

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Štulic

If something is cute is rather subjective.
Some people can't stand cats.
I thing calfs and lambs are cute too, but I'll still eat them.

I'd even eat dog, kitten, anything, if I wouldn't know it's part of the sausage.

I could never value an animal life more than any human life. This is somehow really sick.

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Flamingnun

Allow me to be the first one to point out, that we ARE animals, therefore animal life = human life.


/obligatry.

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verklingen

We are all souls. We are supposed to see the soul rather than its covering. Would you rescue an attractive girl dressed in nice clothes from drowning one day, but overlook an equally attractive girl dressed in rags the next? The body we inhabit has no more merit than the clothes we wear, so why are we so quick to make such distinctions based on them? Anyone who has more sympathy for an animal than a human or a human than an animal is just a closet racist who shifts his discrimination into other avenues.

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Flamingnun

So regardless of a humans actions in life, the soul remains unchanged?

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verklingen

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The individual soul is eternal and unchangeable, but it places itself into certain circumstances/bodies based upon its actions. Cue Newton's third law of motion.

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iamislegrown

Saying humans have souls and animals don't is to justify the killing of animals for food,

no soul=kill it

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Flamingnun

I think the killing of animals is justified by our need for food, although i think that the majority of ways animals are farmed is grossly inhumane.
As for your theory on souls verklingen, i dunno im not a huge spitituality person, i prefer to look at things from the scientific approach, though just what it is that makes a combination of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen develop consciousness, i have no idea, and i think thats where the majority of speculation about "souls" derives from.

bongsmilie

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verklingen

As the meat of a dead animal sits (including in the intestines), it begins to rot and releases toxic gases. These gases do not bother carnivores because they have a short digestive system (only about 3 times their body length) which allows them to quickly eliminate waste from animal flesh. Herbivores (including humans) are generally built with a very long digestive system (about 12 times their body length) which helps them break up the coarse fibers of plant matter and extract its nutrients. So when we eat flesh, it rots within our bodies for a very long time, and this can cause many complications.

Aside from this, there are other clues indicative of the human's natural status as an herbivore. Our teeth are built for crushing and mashing plant matter; a carnivore's teeth are built for grabbing and ripping flesh free from a body. Our jaw is built to move side to side in order to grind plant matter into a fine pulp; a carnivore's jaw simply opens and closes, chewing up and down and swallowing what cannot be pulverized. Our neck is built for extending forward and up; a cornivore's neck is built for reaching down and twisting flesh free. Even beyond all these points, our stomach acid is not equal to the task of properly breaking down animal flesh to make it easily digestible.

The Greek thinker Pythagoras is quoted as saying:

“Oh, my fellow men, do not defile your bodies with sinful foods. We have corn, we have apples bending down the branches with their weight, and grapes swelling on the vines. There are sweet-flavored herbs, and vegetables which can be cooked and softened over the fire, nor are you denied milk or thyme-scented honey. The earth affords a lavish supply of riches, of innocent foods, and offers you banquets that involve no bloodshed or slaughter; only beasts satisfy their hunger with flesh, and not even all of those, because horses, cattle, and sheep live on grass.”

The Roman Plutarch replies thus:

“Can you really ask what reason Pythagorus had for abstinence from flesh? For my part I rather wonder both by what accident and in what state of mind the first man touched his mouth to gore and brought his lips to the flesh of a dead creature, set forth tables of dead, stale bodies, and ventured to call food and nourishment the parts that had a little before bellowed and cried, moved and lived. How could eyes endure the slaughter when throats were slit and hides flayed and limbs torn from limb? How could his nose endure the stench? How was it that the pollution did not turn away his taste, which made contact with sores of others and sucked juices and serums from mortal wounds? It is certainly not lions or wolves that we eat out of self-defense; on the contrary, we ignore these and slaughter harmless, tame creatures without stings or teeth to harm us. For the sake of a little flesh we deprive them of sun, of light, of the duration of life to which they are entitled by birth and being.

“If you declare that you are naturally designed for such a diet, then first kill for yourself what you want to eat. Do it, however, only through your own resources, unaided by cleaver or cudgel or any kind of ax.”

Plutarch's last point is very illuminating. If you want to eat like a tiger, get your food like a tiger, using only those assets with which you were born. How can it be said that killing animals is good because we need them to eat? It's madness, if you ask me.

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The Rev

People are ambivalent about other people. Most of us, while we need them, are also afraid of them in many ways. Animals, on the other hand, come with no complications. We can feel all the attachment and affection we want without worrying about being let down.

That, and the fact that the animal is a pussy and you're a YaHookan, pretty much explain the situation.



The Rev

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Reagan

We see people being killed all the time. Movies, video games, internet, etc. We are a de=sensitized society. We rarely see actual video of something like a cat being killed. It shocks and disturbs us because we are not used to it.

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Waves

i was gonna say the same thing.

people are so fucking crazy sometimes.

anyway, about the thread, i think it should be obvious to anyone that the only animal that kills for enjoyment is humans. this is because we have evolved to the point where we can derive entertainment out of the action of hunting. all other animals only hunt for survival. so it doesnt really matter what people think of animal life vs. human life unless they go out and kill another living thing for enjoyment, and thats a harsh lesson. hunters make me sick.

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Geeno

I don't value life based on cuteness.

if a dog was drowning and so was a human

I think the dog would be less likely to drown me in response to my attempted save, whereas humans often drown their savior (talkin non lifeguard savers).

That being said I have mad beef with humans, all other species (besides spiders) get props before humans. Okay so I still have some beef with horses too.

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Mull D

I was reading old posts and found an old thread. "Human Life vs. Animal Life"

http://www.yahooka.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76921

Paranoid Android

As sad as it is, everyone is fair game.

It's the way of life, it's survival of the fittest, and always will be.

All life should be regarded as the same in some senses, but obviously seeing anything/anyone die is a sad thing.

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wrusty420

It is no longer survival of the fittest with all the medical advancements we now have...it is now the survival of the ones who can pay for it