sonicwoah

all the time i hear people claiming the only way to be "saved" is to follow X religion. What do you guys think is the best hypothetical "way to be saved" or is religion just plain wrong?

I have a definite opinion but ill share it once i hear some other responses.

verklingen

The best religion is one you don't have to be convinced of.

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KRONIK

That would leave none.

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JcPizwink

well I disagree with THAT.

KRONIK

Why? You'd have to be convinced before you believe, unless God himself walked up to you and was like:
"Yo, I'm God..and this is the correct way to worship and stuff".

And even then it would probably be just some crazy homeless dude.

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snapshot

Techinically anything can convince you of anything if you want it to.

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KRONIK

If you already wanted to, were you really convinced?

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snapshot

"Wanting to" falls into the "anything" category.

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sonicwoah

woah woah woah...lets not get so freakin metaphorical here guys..its a simple question. the best and why?

DrChronic

Just like a lot of the religous blokeys say.

Abstenance Abstenance Abstenance.

No religion is the best religion, and ithink somemtimes we are more prejudiced against than the others.

snapshot

Agnostisism. The best because its purpose is to adapt to as much new information as possible, ridding one's self of beliefs in the process. Beliefs imply there are parts of the mind that are dormant, sorted, thought out. Nothing is true. Everything is permissible. Everything is fire. There is constant flux. Not one thing is exactly the same from one nanosecond to the next. Ask your physics teacher to verify. There is no "is" because "is" implies certainty. It is all metaphorical, all semantical, all logical. It's as close to reality as I can understand it.

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We are all atheists about most of the gods that society has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
-Richard Dawkins

KRONIK

Concurred.

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Cerpin Taxt

Ditto

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"The mind is a superb instrument if used rightly. Used wrongly, however, it becomes very destructive. To put it more accurately, it is not so much that you use your mind wrongly—you usually don't use it at all. It uses you."
-Eckhart Tolle

-If you try to destroy him to save them, they'll destroy you to save him-

The Rev

There's this story about God and The Devil walking down a road when they see a piece of Truth in the road, and a man about to pick it up. God turns to The Devil and asks, "That man has found a piece of Truth. As the Prince of lies, that's a threat to your power. Doesn't that bother you? He could show it to others," to which The Devil replied, "Not at all. On the contrary, they will organize around it, and it will be mine soon enough..."



The Rev

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reverie

These Bruce Lee quotes have been posted in another thread, but I found them fitting to this discussion.

"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves."

"Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."

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Woods

Well, Taoism if you want to call it a religion. If not, then I suppose Buddhism.

Judaism and its various sects and breakaway factions are the most backwards, hateful, destructive, genocidal philosophies ever created by man. I suppose the one good thing is that they tend to focus so much time oppressing and killing each other that they often don’t have time to kill others. Of course that doesn’t stop them from perpetrating the worst crimes against humanity ever, dwarfing the crimes of all other groups put together.

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Prisons are built with stones of Law. Brothels with bricks of religion.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics

there is no best religion but gnostic christianity and hinduism are probably my favorites.

The Shombadia

gnostic christiniaty? I didnt know there were people around that still beleived in it. I think the difference is that they dont put so much stress into sinning. They put stress into ignorance and how sin is created from ignorance. It is why they didnt put a couple books into the bible because gnostics created them. Do you know what they study out of? Off to do some research...

In my mind, I dont think buddhism is a religion. I think buddha was hindu but he just created a way to end suffering, Right?? I know that there are sects of buddhism that throw god into the picture but I dont think that buddha taught about gods. I know he used quotes from hindu texts.

There isnt a best religion. Even if god himself appeared in front of the whole world at once and told people how it is, people would still have different beliefs. Different strokes for different folks.

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verklingen

Interesting that you bring these up. In the search for spirituality, I would recommend not heeding this advice. Water may readily adapt to dynamic circumstances, but this adaptation follows a concrete method and is forced upon the water by the circumstances themselves.

Whatever the circumstance, water seeks out the position with the lowest potential energy. In other words, water sidesteps resistance and takes the easy way out. As spiritual development (the goal of any religion) is a process of ascension, one who adopts an aquaeous religious method is forced to remain at the bottom even as water slips through cracks, helplessly seeking lower and lower energies.

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verklingen

Good post kosh, but my contention with Mr. Lee's words is not a semantical one.

"If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves."

Yet if nothing within you stays rigid, you are also subject to have circumstances dictate your position: mentally, physically, or spiritually depending on where you're coming from. How can this be good advice?

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