BionicLungSmoker

Has anyone read anything on spirit guides? My mom goes to this psychic/spritual advisor. They put blank cards in a empty bag and throw in pens and markers. Then you write down names of people in your family. The cards come out witha picture of supposely your spirit guide. Everyone in my family has one now and I just got mine as well. I really dont know what to think of all this.

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Ego Tripping

I think your mom is buying in too easily IMO....I don't think its that easy but I believe we have them, some people more than one.

I also think that while some people have Angels, others have Demons.

I know I have 2-3 and have met them twice during Lucid Dreaming.

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I sensed an intelligence that was lingering, and it even showed a form of a face to me. It's like I could see it, it could see me. We both new I was tripping on shrooms but not very hard. It only stopped by to say 'wassup' I guess.

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AlteredStateGrl

Do a Google search for Spirit Guides and check out a few sites that come up. I've done a little reading about them, although, I've never heard of the method your mentioned for finding out which/what yours is.

http://www.crystalinks.com/spirit_guides.html

Thats all I know. I bet SweetSativa will know more.

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BionicLungSmoker

to emoly that demons guide a person would also imply the existance of a Hell

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Canuck Wisdom

Very interesting. I have had similar experiences that move me beyond words.

Honestly. I dont know how to explain how profound it feels, but I too have some sort of 'spirit' that I can remember connecting with in dreams and meditation and trips and those sorts of experiences that IS familiar and seems to be aware of me aware of it. I've always thought of it as my gaurdian angel, because thats what it feels like its doing, gaurding me. Not guiding (Unfortunatly, so confused sometimes..), but gaurding.

It is a beuatiful thing too. So pleasurable to be with, comforting and loving.

Thanks guys, this thread made me think about that again.. I dont normally think about it unless its obviously there which isn't often.

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Ego Tripping

Not in my opinion, not at all. Why does that imply that?

But I do feel there is a place where all this negative energy goes (just like there's a place where all the positive energy goes which you would probably call Heaven) and I also feel there are Spirits that are more comfortable around that energy. If you want to call it Hell and put a name on it, thats your choice.

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BionicLungSmoker

the reason i said hell because the root to demons and creatures like this came from hell. At least I always thought that.

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Canuck Wisdom

I would say that too, the 'demon' spirits would be originated from negative energy thats in circulation due to whatever... like your parents beating you because they were beat because their father was in a war that was started by greedy warmongerers, etc etc etc

vs.

Your parents loving you and providing for all your needs and making you feel comfortable in the world might produce a connection with positive energies that fuel goodness in you and the goings on around you in turn.

Or sum mumbo jumbo like that...

I am choosing courses for next year and wanna take this one philosophy one: An inquiry into the nature of religion and religious belief, the relations among faith, reason, knowledge and revelation, the analysis of religious language, the mystical claim to direct knowledge of God, the nature of evil, and religious ethics.

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Ego Tripping

You're just buying into Dogma and everyone else's beliefs. Find your own.

I think its the opposite. The root was the Demons (or entities that simply don't feel Love is the answer) and the RESULT was Hell.

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Canuck Wisdom

Uhm, while I'm at it...

The afterlife can be seen in a similar light (my opinion of course), in that when you die you know in your heart of hearts (or in the face of God's all knowing light, whatever you want to call it) what you did with your life and if you generally were good or evil and it will weigh on you. That acknowledgement of your life is like the essence of you, so I could see any sort of life energy or soul pouring into that aspect of the world.

So basically I am saying, if your a good person you will further goodness in the world and feel content when you die and essentially go to heaven as you leave. While if you know yourself to have been evil, you will be afraid of what you've done with your life and go to a scary, negative place, like your energy during life did.

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Ego Tripping

Yeah man, mine definitely feel like they are gaurding as well as guiding. I also have daily communication with my Guides through synchrocities and repeating number patterns and such...my girlfriend has the same experiences. And I remember one trip in particular where I had my first true "discussion" which was interesting because words were not needed at all.

Let me elaborate....when you speak a work, it doesn't start as a Word, it starts as an Emotion. The word is merely a shadow of the emotion and the Emotion is the Light which casts the Shadow. After the word is spoken, its recieved by the Listener and translated back into an Emotion. This is what we call "communication."

When I spoke to my Guide, this middle-man of "words" not needed, direct emotion to emotion, so communication was instantanously recieved, communicated and understood. This is obviously the best and most accurate way to communicate (we get glimpses of it in this life when we REALLY connect with people, friends and lovers alike) but I find words will always be used in this life and after simply because they are fun and beautiful.

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I think that the spirit guide is neutral until you decide what to do with it, and s/he you. Most of these spirits manifest when we imbibe the shroomie, and we know that a psychedelic experience is a good way to get to know one's self. It seems possible that delving into the psyche for the first time on shrooms, not truely knowing yourself, could bring out what was there all along: a dark side, at least leaning toward that spectrum.

I doubt that if there are any spirits that are with us when we trip that they'd be evil or purity incarnate. They seem to be more of a projection of our spiritual selves, the one that isn't bound by the mind.

If there are spirits, or energies or apparitions, mind-manifest or not, that do exist, this would seem to be the most logical explaination for them. I've tripped on acid a few times and never felt the presense of any sort of being or intelligence, benign or otherwise. I think there's something pretty special about that psylocybin/psilocin combo.

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Ego Tripping

I take it to a more objective level.

When you die, you simply "See the Light" or what I call "Truth." Action:Reaction. You will recieve everything you give, positive and negative and neutral. I find this is of course, the most fair thing that could happen.

Your placement of "heaven" or "hell" is simply depedant on your ability to handle what the Truth is. If you accept it, mistakes and victories in all, you will "rest in peace." If you run from your errors and have shame for your actions (which many will experience if they live a self centered life) you will fall into "damnation." Of course, there is no such thing as "judgement" or Heaven or Hell but merely our own self perception and acceptance (or lackthereof) of what we've done to others.

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Ego Tripping

Imagine you're acting in a Play and you have a best friend behind the curtain that helps turn on lights when needed, draws and closes the curtains between acts, sets up the stage and if you ever forget your Line, will be there to call it out to you when you ask.

You are the Actor, your Guide is that best friend. Thats the best way I can describe it.

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I'm stealing this.


Yeah, this is what I think too. If there is an afterlife, once the blockages you've set up in your brain have fallen apart you'll be forced to look at the life you've created for yourself. You'd feel every emotion, every memory, every thought, all rolled up into to one averaged out experiential feeling, whereby just feeling the feeling, you'll know what kind of a person you've been and what you feel you deserve.

It's the only time we may ever come to viewing ourselves objectively.

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Ego Tripping

As Above, So Below. I believe the life before this is just as real, beautiful and amazing as this one and will feel even more natural and real than this one because its what this one is based on. You will retain everything you are and gain even more...To me theres Life and LIFE, no Death.

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Well I don't believe that, but that doesn't mean I don't have the same goal. Other than Pascal's Wager being strictly for Christianity, therefore nonsense, I still think that it's got a good idea.

If you're going to die and nothing comes after, there's no reason to maintain morality at all.

But if there is an afterlife, even if it's similar in the slightest to this one, that means that we'll feel similar consequences to we do in this reality. There's no point in making myself feel like shit by putting other people down, killing others, spending the rest of my life in jail, generally making others and myself miserable if I'm just banking on there being nothing after this. How can I die with myself (similar to live with myself) with everything bad that I've done. I'm either expecting the afterlife to be completely apeshit backwards and crazy and reward me for my actions, or I'm expecting nothing at all. Those are pretty fucked up odds. I may not be a God-fearing man, but I am a odds fearing man, and those statistics scare the shit out of me.


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Ego Tripping

I'm not expecting anything except to lose my body. Thats all I think changes...and I don't lose anything, I just gain a different one.

I often go through times throughout my day where I'll stop and think "What would be different if I simply didn't have to be weighed down to the ground?"

My answer is usually fly away and find someone else to kick it with. Then go and find someone to help.

My most lucid dreams seem to be echos of what this is like. And my Lucid Dreams are always "more real than real." Thats the trippiest feeling ever.

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I've definitely been able to think about it to the point where I can simulate the experience of death. Rather, what I would feel like and be experiencing had I no brain or physical body barriers. This is what makes me feel I should act the way I do.

But I don't see a reason why you would think you could know what actually happens to you when you die. To me, you either are or you aren't yourself after you die. That's as far as I've been able to logically deduce. For me to come to my latest conclusion I definitely had to consider that I would lose my body and maintain my identity, and that certainly had an effect on my decision to come to said conclusion, but I saw no reason why I would actually believe that unless I had some reason to.

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