infinite planets in a infinite galaxy in an infinite universe - Page 2

The Rev · 10-14-2006, 05:59 PM

I've seen bigger shit than Space.... like my rod.

The Rev

Waves · 10-14-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by donniedope

The difference is in my perception of the size of the universe is only as far as I can see. Scientific instruments have a much greater ability in detecting things my senses can't.

Right, but i dont see what this has to do with a question such as "is the universe infinite in size?"

If it was infinite, we could never detect all of it because it would keep going and going and going and going. if it were a finite object, we could detect the end of the universe. Either way, scienctific instruments arent there yet.

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You said it yourself: "everythings finite in a sense, because every "thing" is a "thing" with boundaries on how its percieved. its the sum of all those "things" that creates infinite, imo." Basiaclly, the universe is what we can perceive. But we can't perceive a galaxy 20,000 lightyears away that the hubble or other scientific instrument can detetct thriugh ultraviolet light that is invisible to us. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.

Right...but it doesnt mean it IS there either. Useless argument.

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And to add on since you editied your post: These infinite points like your saying keyboard to atoms etc etc is only perceives to be endless. What about quarks, or string theory etc. You dont know its endless, and science is trying to figure out the "theory of everthing" What the "space is made up of"

Your right. Its a personal choice of belief based on the information ive acquired.

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But we seem to just have different approaches. Like you are making a hypothesis and basing things off that. And I'm kind of going the scientific way.

science is filled with hypothesis and people basing things off of them. Most of science is that exact thing you just said. People making theories based on hypothesizing and trying different things out, and sometimes basing theories off of theories or straight up making shit up. science is only human.

donniedope · 10-14-2006, 06:49 PM

Let me sum up all the shit ive had to try to make you understand: the universe isnt conclusively finite or infinite, so you cant be basing your conclusions on an infinite universe.

verklingen · 10-14-2006, 07:08 PM

The universe, like anything else, is "conclusively" however you wish it. If you want to limit your personal possibility by supposing finity, so be it.

donniedope · 10-14-2006, 07:11 PM

so if i conclusively wish to fuck fifty pornstars at once then its true? And is supposing this limiting my possiblilities?

rockhead · 10-14-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captdoug713

The universe is as far as we know infinite. So yes all things are possable.

nevermind dont read anything on quantum physics...cause you sound like the type of moron who wouldnt understand it anyways

Captdoug713 · 10-15-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rockhead

nevermind dont read anything on quantum physics...cause you sound like the type of moron who wouldnt understand it anyways

Doesnt matter because we dont know for sure anything. imo it never ends. so you read a book by a guy that some how knows how it all works? we dont know anything. so yes all things are possable.

rockhead · 10-15-2006, 12:17 PM

no one knows anything for sure thats why scientist come up with theories...and lots of things we have learned from space exploration and from sending probes into space

Waves · 10-15-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by donniedope

so if i conclusively wish to fuck fifty pornstars at once then its true? And is supposing this limiting my possiblilities?

yes.

theres a possibility that the above will happen, its unlikely but still a true possibility. by saying you cant fuck them you are indeed limiting your possibilities, however unlikely they are.

Waves · 10-15-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by donniedope

Let me sum up all the shit ive had to try to make you understand: the universe isnt conclusively finite or infinite, so you cant be basing your conclusions on an infinite universe.

i never said that we live in an infinite universe, thats an odd point to make. i said that every object that exists is finite in some sense, or has some aspect that is finite. a box has edges. a lion has edges. and our universe probably has an edge because it is an "object."

every object is also infinite in another sense, because the stable object you are percieving is also a floating mass of atoms which are in turn comprised of quarks, and our tools cant even get past quarks yet. but i cant imagine a substance that is not comprised of another substance therefore its got to go on for infinite. or maybe not. but its more likely that it goes on and on and on than not.

JcP · 10-16-2006, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by donniedope

so if i conclusively wish to fuck fifty pornstars at once then its true? And is supposing this limiting my possiblilities?

(does his Spongebob voice)

IM-aaaaa-gin--aaaaa-tion.

Ego Tripping · 10-16-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

The universe, like anything else, is "conclusively" however you wish it. If you want to limit your personal possibility by supposing finity, so be it.

Hence, why its infinite. Irony is beautiful as well.

fenderbender · 10-16-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JcP

(does his Spongebob voice)

IM-aaaaa-gin--aaaaa-tion.

man i was so thinking the exact same thing when readin over this thread and came to that post...lol

good read though guys...thanks for posting, keep it comin if you got more to say

-fb

DubStyle311 · 10-16-2006, 11:49 PM

Another thing about the infiniate universe theory is that their are infinate You's out there with every permuation of every decision and event of your life.

Pretty wild shit right there.

jellyfish · 10-17-2006, 03:11 PM

Perhaps the universe is cyclical. Going round and round infinatlry, not just going out into finite/infinite space.
Perhaps we belong to a multiverse, of different cyclical universes combined in one loop.
Perhaps there is a fourth demension, like the Tralfamadore in slaughterhouse 5.

There is a mathmatical formula somewhere proving how many different civilisations there must be in the universe using probability. But i can't remeber what it is called. Anyone know?

verklingen · 10-17-2006, 03:16 PM

^ The Drake equation:

R* is the rate of star formation in our galaxy
fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne is average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fl is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life
fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc is the fraction of the above that are willing and able to communicate
L is the expected lifetime of such a civilization

Drakk420 · 10-19-2006, 06:17 AM

jesus.... 36 posts and not a single reference to THHG2TG? This was Douglas Adams helping force in the creation of his books. He assumed the same thing poster #1 did, that any situation is possible, thereby creating places such as Vogworld and Squornshellous Zeta (jeez i wonder if i spelled that right)..

But so the answer to the original question is 42....

ermmm yes, I mean no...

the answer to the original question is yes, that an infinite amt. of places would lead to the conclusion that there is an infinite amt. of strange planets made of strange things... This however leads moreso to the conclusion that the theory of an infinite universe is false rather than the Mattress Planet actually existing...

w/e, 8am bonghits pwn

Firebat9er · 10-23-2006, 11:10 PM

It is pretty well theorised that there is a finite amount of galaxies although the number is very large.

Here is what blows my mind. What lies beyond these galaxies? Assuming that the big bang theory is true, then everything is moving away from a single point and we are constantly moving outwards from that. Is it a foreverness of nothingness outside of the known? It just blows your mind to think about infinite nothingness, that is going out for ever and ever.

verklingen · 10-24-2006, 07:12 AM

^ You know what blows my mind even more? The idea that the Big Bang (Creation) is always happening, and the totality of our existential experience is an infinite number of perspectives on that one single instant.

10-14-2006, 05:59 PM	#21 (permalink)
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10-14-2006, 06:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
donniedope YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,078 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Let me sum up all the shit ive had to try to make you understand: the universe isnt conclusively finite or infinite, so you cant be basing your conclusions on an infinite universe. __________________ -God made the mobile hotbox for a reason, but some dumbass renamed it the car -i wish my lawn was emo, so it would cut itself. -Yeah I called her up, she gave me a bunch of crap about me not listening to her, or something, I don't know, I wasn't really paying attention. -A gay guy upon seeing a bunch of girls in a room: It smells like pussy in here.....I think. -its not until we've lost everything that we are free to do anything

10-14-2006, 07:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	The universe, like anything else, is "conclusively" however you wish it. If you want to limit your personal possibility by supposing finity, so be it. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

10-14-2006, 07:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
donniedope YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,078 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	so if i conclusively wish to fuck fifty pornstars at once then its true? And is supposing this limiting my possiblilities? __________________ -God made the mobile hotbox for a reason, but some dumbass renamed it the car -i wish my lawn was emo, so it would cut itself. -Yeah I called her up, she gave me a bunch of crap about me not listening to her, or something, I don't know, I wasn't really paying attention. -A gay guy upon seeing a bunch of girls in a room: It smells like pussy in here.....I think. -its not until we've lost everything that we are free to do anything

10-15-2006, 12:17 PM	#28 (permalink)
rockhead YaHookan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 295 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	no one knows anything for sure thats why scientist come up with theories...and lots of things we have learned from space exploration and from sending probes into space __________________ Git R Dun!

10-16-2006, 11:49 PM	#34 (permalink)
DubStyle311 Old School Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: down the highway Posts: 7,229 Thanks: 0 Thanked 80 Times in 65 Posts	Another thing about the infiniate universe theory is that their are infinate You's out there with every permuation of every decision and event of your life. Pretty wild shit right there. __________________ I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

10-17-2006, 03:11 PM	#35 (permalink)
jellyfish Dark Wizzard Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Right behind you Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Perhaps the universe is cyclical. Going round and round infinatlry, not just going out into finite/infinite space. Perhaps we belong to a multiverse, of different cyclical universes combined in one loop. Perhaps there is a fourth demension, like the Tralfamadore in slaughterhouse 5. There is a mathmatical formula somewhere proving how many different civilisations there must be in the universe using probability. But i can't remeber what it is called. Anyone know? __________________ Turn on, Tune in, And drop out. Eat my crispy prose mother fucker!

10-17-2006, 03:16 PM	#36 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	^ The Drake equation: R* is the rate of star formation in our galaxy fp is the fraction of those stars that have planets ne is average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets fl is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life fc is the fraction of the above that are willing and able to communicate L is the expected lifetime of such a civilization __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

10-19-2006, 06:17 AM	#37 (permalink)
Drakk420 YaHookan Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 160 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	jesus.... 36 posts and not a single reference to THHG2TG? This was Douglas Adams helping force in the creation of his books. He assumed the same thing poster #1 did, that any situation is possible, thereby creating places such as Vogworld and Squornshellous Zeta (jeez i wonder if i spelled that right).. But so the answer to the original question is 42.... ermmm yes, I mean no... the answer to the original question is yes, that an infinite amt. of places would lead to the conclusion that there is an infinite amt. of strange planets made of strange things... This however leads moreso to the conclusion that the theory of an infinite universe is false rather than the Mattress Planet actually existing... w/e, 8am bonghits pwn

10-23-2006, 11:10 PM	#38 (permalink)
Firebat9er Old School Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is pretty well theorised that there is a finite amount of galaxies although the number is very large. Here is what blows my mind. What lies beyond these galaxies? Assuming that the big bang theory is true, then everything is moving away from a single point and we are constantly moving outwards from that. Is it a foreverness of nothingness outside of the known? It just blows your mind to think about infinite nothingness, that is going out for ever and ever.

10-24-2006, 07:12 AM	#39 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	^ You know what blows my mind even more? The idea that the Big Bang (Creation) is always happening, and the totality of our existential experience is an infinite number of perspectives on that one single instant. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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