matthewmunari

but my situation wasn't a re-creation......its a miracle that the garbage men happened to be dumping THAT dumpster behind which they found me.....called an ambulance 911, i "clinically" died in the ambulance TWICE...I remember most of it, so well in fact, when I when i was finally lucid I asked my dad "why am i in the hospital, I
was just with 2 friends"....he told me the truth, I called him a liar....Like I said, he had to show me proof that I had been in jail the previous 4 months....it was REAL..they last thing i remember her saying is "I'll definitely see you again"......that's Gods' honest truth..

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kamikazi89

neither was mine
(was just adding a tidbit) not everything is personal, and what is personal is not necessarily reliable)

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josh22_22

I think I do it because of all the wars I have read about in the history books and the wars that are sort of motivated due to religious beliefs that is going on now. Because all of the injustices committed in the name of religion. I do it because my logic doesn't allow me to think that way. I do it because if there was a god, innocent people wouldn't die or even if they did they wouldn't suffer and starve to death.
I know your going to say that, religion has good things to offer too. But I disagree, I think that religion creates another basis to hate someone. I'm not saying that all religious people like to enforce their "will" upon others, but since we are humans we love to label people. So if one does it, the whole group does it. I think that comes naturally to us and we try to overcome. Like with race or the color of your skin. I'm sure everyone has been racists towards someone at one point in their life but we try to overcome this by using logic and telling ourselves that there is nothing different about the other man. We, as a society, want to get rid of the race factor all along and what would be the best way to get rid of it? If we didn't have the race issue in the first place. But we cannot do that now can we? We can't change people's skin color now, can we? We try to do the same with religion. We want to get rid of it because it eliminates a base for hatred. The only difference with religion is that we choose to believe in it. We aren't just born a particular religion. So since we aren't born with it, we can indeed get rid of it and thus eliminate that platform for hatred.

I would like to apologizes for anything that doesn't make sense in advance, as I am blazed the fuck out of my mind right now.:bigjo int::bigjo int:

SageTree

bump, since this closely parallels the God talk thread in one of these two Head Spaces, 'Forums'

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Xil

Anti-theistic rants are a direct response to religious 'missionaries' and loud ass evangelicals.

Not saying its right, just saying its a reaction. Atheists have been severely persecuted and now have some sort of entitlement to be douches complex (no offense to anyone, im actually an atheist myself)

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SageTree

A douche for a douche leave the whole world....wait that isn't how it goes

Whatever gets people to the point of caring about others and their own happiness is just fine by me. Our inward lives are our personal choices.

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Xil

If its true caring im down.

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Psilocychosis

As opposed to caring for status?

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SageTree

^ I know some care for status people out there crawling around.

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Psilocychosis

I know many. Thats one of the problems with this world of modern. Status and reputation have taken reign above basic compassion for your fellow man...Shucks.

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SageTree

I think people feel like they still 'care' but what interactive level of care means has changed for some people who are too busy to get involved. There are alot of good people out there writing checks, so people like me, who have the time and not money can get that into action. Let's not forget about all the good people doing things too, else wise, we'll get totally bummed. There is alot of opprotunity to care and relieve suffering in this world we are in.

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zerodown

Without reading the whole thing, I would have to say that atheists don't go around stomping on other people's religion, they do however like to point out the stupidity of a fully grown man still believing in fairy tales and empty promises of eternity when such a grown man tries to push their belief in said atheist and condemns him to hell if he doesn't accept.

So yeah, I'm an atheist and I don't go around telling others to join the club, do whatever rocks your boat, its your life, but don't come trying to push your beliefs in my life or I will feel forced to point out how stupid is your belief in imaginary deities.

hijabihippie

This is just my opinion, and I could be wrong, but if the existence of marijuana isn't proof of the existence of God, I'll be damned.

kamikazi89

you remind me of my first wife

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SageTree

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kamikazi89

Definition of dissociative_disorde r - WordReference.com Dictionary

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SageTree

bump

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~1~

So Sage, where is it that I fit in, as I said before atheism is a belief on non-belief therefore lending credence to the idea that there is something for me to not believe in.

Not only do I not want to follow the rules set forth for the non-believers by those who feel there is something, I don't really even want to play the game.

We are good, we are evil , we are all and nothing at once. There is nothing more to us than what is, yet that is infinite in it's ability to be.

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SageTree

Thanks for answering again No1. Sometimes I like to bump these threads because opinions and what not change and evolve further.

I appreciate the answer and am sincerely interested in what connects people to meaningful living. I hope this comes across correct and my interest isn't seen as antagonistic. So thank you again.

The word play/ paradox at the beginning and "I don't really even want to play the game" were insightful and enjoyed.

Cheers to the present moment and what we share in it!
SageTree

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Geeno

yeah i like the way you put that oneder, that's how I often feel.

like Im not necessarily apathetic, agnostic or aethiest. Im just like w/e cause ima do me regardless.

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