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verklingen · 06-13-2007, 12:31 PM

andy: we ARE the universal consciousness. There is no before or after, only an eternal NOW through which we perceive a fragmented aspect of the infinite whole. These fragments and our experiences through them support the unity of All-That-Is just as All-That-Is supports the infinite diversity of It's fragmented parts. The universal consciousness flows up and down all creation eternally.

andymonk · 06-13-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

andy: we ARE the universal consciousness. There is no before or after, only an eternal NOW through which we perceive a fragmented aspect of the infinite whole. These fragments and our experiences through them support the unity of All-That-Is just as All-That-Is supports the infinite diversity of It's fragmented parts. The universal consciousness flows up and down all creation eternally.

If that was the case,the world would be a totally different place. The universal consciousness is the infinite whole,the whole from which we have been disconnected.

JcP · 06-13-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by andymonk

If that was the case,the world would be a totally different place. The universal consciousness is the infinite whole,the whole from which we have been disconnected.

how can you be disconncected from the infinite whole when you are that whole?

The world is exactly what it is, just as infinity is. And it is changing just as "we" are changing, just as "I" am changing. It can't help it, because "I" AM.

andymonk · 06-14-2007, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JcP

how can you be disconncected from the infinite whole when you are that whole?

The world is exactly what it is, just as infinity is. And it is changing just as "we" are changing, just as "I" am changing. It can't help it, because "I" AM.

Let me put it another way................. .we are disconnected because we are not aware of being the whole.We function as individuals,and will be like that until we all connect back.Its like individual computers that are not logged on to the internet.When we log on we can function as an individual but at the same time work as part of the whole. Its being aware thats important,awareness pulls us all together

verklingen · 06-14-2007, 07:03 AM

But we're still connected whether we're aware of it or not. But you're right, awareness is the key.

andymonk · 06-14-2007, 06:02 PM

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But we're still connected whether we're aware of it or not. But you're right, awareness is the key.

At the highest level of freemasonry they know,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is an inter dimensional symbol.This is world secret societies ultimate secret.

verklingen · 06-14-2007, 06:23 PM

Fuck freemasonry.:bigjoin t:

JcP · 06-14-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by andymonk

At the highest level of freemasonry they know,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is an inter dimensional symbol.This is world secret societies ultimate secret.

the secret of secret societies is that there is no secret.

And, frankly, that's a pretty big secret.

There is no complete flower of life. Or, inversely, there is no incomplete one.

Doesn't matter if you wear a cloak or talk in dim rooms...same shit, different wrapper.

Coincidentally, I performed in a masonic temple about two months ago (they had a large regional theater attached to it).

verklingen · 06-14-2007, 07:57 PM

There is a complete, incomprehensible one and an incomplete, fragmented yet comprehensible one. Both exist simultaneously and support eachother.

andymonk · 06-16-2007, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JcP

the secret of secret societies is that there is no secret.

And, frankly, that's a pretty big secret.

There is no complete flower of life. Or, inversely, there is no incomplete one.

Doesn't matter if you wear a cloak or talk in dim rooms...same shit, different wrapper.

Coincidentally, I performed in a masonic temple about two months ago (they had a large regional theater attached to it).

The complete ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life(pic1). The complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids(pic2). Not just the building blocks of life,but the building blocks of creation its self.

x Alchemy, Magic, Incubation, Metatron, and Ancestors

andymonk · 06-27-2007, 06:31 PM

The original flower(found in "the osireon" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The COMPLETE ancient flower of life has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. The complete flower also contains the metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids. Not just the building blocks of life but the building blocks of creation it self.

x

Canuck Wisdom · 06-27-2007, 07:04 PM

I think symbolism is given less credence in general society then it deserves. The ability or environment, shapes, sounds and images to create forms of consciousness are not widely regarded in reasoning. Building buildings that are not only safe and useful but also aesthetically pleasing and suggest peaceful ideas.

mike_y13 · 06-28-2007, 06:45 AM

Ok i'm not sure I completely comprehend. Maybe I will get stoned and take another look. Just one thing though. If its supposed to infinite how can it be complete, isn't that sort of contridictory?

verklingen · 06-28-2007, 07:20 AM

^ By no means! It, like All-That-Is, is infinite in the expressions of Its unity. This unity accounts for completion without relegating the concept of infinity to a sense of "many-ness," which is actually a finite concept.

andymonk · 06-28-2007, 09:06 AM

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Ok i'm not sure I completely comprehend. Maybe I will get stoned and take another look. Just one thing though. If its supposed to infinite how can it be complete, isn't that sort of contridictory?

Good question.......The complete flower is a ringed sample of the continious pattern of creation. The flower is complete,the pattern is infinite

x

andymonk · 06-28-2007, 02:51 PM

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The original flower is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The COMPLETE ancient flower of life has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. The complete flower also contains the metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids. Not just the building blocks of life but the building blocks of creation it self.

x

This may help any seekers

Alchemy, Magic, Incubation, Metatron, and Ancestors

andymonk · 07-03-2007, 02:48 PM

Hi Guys, I,m going to try and explain the complete flower again. The complete ancient flower of life is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,th e collective unconscious or whatever you would like to call it). The universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original fol(found in "the osireion" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional(first post). If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears.

4love and light 2all

x The complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion

verklingen · 07-03-2007, 02:52 PM

andy, go into more detail if you could. You're obviously very excited about this and it's piqued by interest. If you don't mind, tell us all that you can.

andymonk · 07-06-2007, 11:52 AM

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andy, go into more detail if you could. You're obviously very excited about this and it's piqued by interest. If you don't mind, tell us all that you can.

What more can i say. The complete ancient flower of life is a symbol,so it communicates on a level higher than the written or spoken word.

verklingen · 07-06-2007, 12:09 PM

But you say it does something specific by taking it in with your eyes; what does it do? I notice forms and patterns within it that I don't notice otherwise when I do this, but surely that's not it. What lies beyond?

06-13-2007, 12:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	andy: we ARE the universal consciousness. There is no before or after, only an eternal NOW through which we perceive a fragmented aspect of the infinite whole. These fragments and our experiences through them support the unity of All-That-Is just as All-That-Is supports the infinite diversity of It's fragmented parts. The universal consciousness flows up and down all creation eternally. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

06-14-2007, 07:03 AM	#25 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	But we're still connected whether we're aware of it or not. But you're right, awareness is the key. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	Fuck freemasonry.:bigjoin t: __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

06-14-2007, 07:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	There is a complete, incomprehensible one and an incomplete, fragmented yet comprehensible one. Both exist simultaneously and support eachother. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

06-27-2007, 06:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
andymonk YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The original flower(found in "the osireon" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The COMPLETE ancient flower of life has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. The complete flower also contains the metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids. Not just the building blocks of life but the building blocks of creation it self. x Attached Images Last edited by andymonk; 07-11-2007 at 12:53 PM.

06-28-2007, 06:45 AM	#33 (permalink)
mike_y13 YaHookan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 31 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ok i'm not sure I completely comprehend. Maybe I will get stoned and take another look. Just one thing though. If its supposed to infinite how can it be complete, isn't that sort of contridictory?

06-28-2007, 07:20 AM	#34 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	^ By no means! It, like All-That-Is, is infinite in the expressions of Its unity. This unity accounts for completion without relegating the concept of infinity to a sense of "many-ness," which is actually a finite concept. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

07-03-2007, 02:48 PM	#37 (permalink)
andymonk YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Guys, I,m going to try and explain the complete flower again. The complete ancient flower of life is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,th e collective unconscious or whatever you would like to call it). The universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original fol(found in "the osireion" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional(first post). If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. 4love and light 2all x The complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion Last edited by andymonk; 08-07-2007 at 02:30 PM.

07-03-2007, 02:52 PM	#38 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	andy, go into more detail if you could. You're obviously very excited about this and it's piqued by interest. If you don't mind, tell us all that you can. __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

07-06-2007, 12:09 PM	#40 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	But you say it does something specific by taking it in with your eyes; what does it do? I notice forms and patterns within it that I don't notice otherwise when I do this, but surely that's not it. What lies beyond? __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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