Sequel to Zeitgeist

kameelyun · 10-04-2008, 11:51 PM

Zeitgeist: Addendum

Zeitgeist: Addendum

From their website:

Quote:

'Zeitgeist, The Movie' and 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' were created as Not-for-Profit expressions to communicate what the author felt were highly important social understandings which most humans are generally not aware of. The first film focuses on suppressed historical & modern information about currently dominant social institutions, while also exploring what could be in store for humanity if the power structures at large continue their patterns of self-interest, corruption, and consolidation.

The second film, Zeitgeist: Addendum, attempts to locate the root causes
of this pervasive social corruption, while offering a solution. This solution is not based on politics, morality, laws, or any other "establishment" notions of human affairs, but rather on a modern, non-superstitious based understanding of what we are and how we align with nature, to which we are a part. The work advocates a new social system which is updated to present day knowledge, highly influenced by the life long work of Jacque Fresco and The Venus Project.

Zeitgeist - The Movie

I'm about to start watching right now!

blackdeath88012 · 10-05-2008, 02:31 AM

shit's fuckin wild man. The Venus Project - The Redesign of a culture

Hostile · 10-05-2008, 11:13 AM

I'm really enjoying this. These 'Economic Hitman' interviews are AMAZING.

**Bearsy** · 10-05-2008, 11:30 AM

I'm liking this one much more so than the first. This one it seems he did his homework and isn't just spewing crap mixed in with truth.

I probably won't finish it until tomorrow, as I've got two 6 page English papers to finish by noon tomorrow.

10-05-2008, 11:46 AM

I like this one a lot more then the first one too. VERY interesting.

Captdoug713 · 10-05-2008, 12:48 PM

The Venus Project Sounds cool. Still watching Part 2. Good so far.

Canuck Wisdom · 10-05-2008, 01:23 PM

I agree guys, I think this is much better done than the first one, and much more relevant.

Good watch, very good.

10-05-2008, 01:27 PM

much funnier than the first.

unusual for a comedy sequel.

The Rev · 10-05-2008, 02:08 PM

I watched it yesterday, and immediately went looking for a copy of Modern Money Mechanics. I think there may be more to it than what the filmaker is describing, however, as there are alot of economists out there who, if the modern money system were truly a Ponzi Scheme, would have drawn attention to it (Milton Friedman comes to mind here).

I know that the history of fiat money has left little to argue about; it speaks for itself. However, it seems that the kind of inflation you saw in the Weimar Republic has taught modern central banks some kind of lesson, because you aren't seeing it now.

The part about how the USA and it's huge corporations use debt to subjugate smaller countries, however, really hit home. I feel this predatory banking on a personal level, with my own consumer credit problems. When you look at the way banks set up minimum payment schedules to last years, the way they go after young kids to ensnare them before they've got much life experience (not unlike the way tobacco companies market to kids), and the way they portray credit cards as the ticket to financial freedom in their advertising, you can see clearly the nature of their game. It makes perfect sense that they play the same game on a much larger scale with third world nations.

Overall, a really cool movie.

The Rev

SmokeSomeDoja · 10-06-2008, 09:09 AM

good movie, i also liked how they focused on solutions and how humans can easily change things for the better....just have to get out of the paradigm were currently in.

and i like how they focused on the underlying problems...i.e. self-interest/money/etc....not getting tied up in short term [political] solutions.

10-06-2008, 09:35 AM

MODERN MONEY MECHANICS
A Workbook on Bank Reserves and Deposit Expansion

This complete booklet was originally produced and distributed free by:
Public Information Center
Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
P. O. Box 834
Chicago, IL 60690-0834
telephone: 312 322 5111
But it is now out of print. Photo copies can be made available by monques@myhome.net,
or downloaded in pdf format here ( http://landru.i-link-2.net/monques/MMM.pdf ) 2.7meg, patience if you are on slow connection.

Modern Money Mechanics

exerpt...

What is money ?
If money is viewed simply as a tool used to facilitate transactions, only those media that are readily accepted in exchange for goods, services, and other assets need to be considered. Many things - from stones to baseball cards - have served this monetary function through the ages. Today, in the United States, money used in transactions is mainly of three kinds - currency (paper money and coins in the pockets and purses of the public); demand deposits (non-interest bearing checking accounts in banks); and other checkable deposits, such as negotiable order of withdrawal (NOW) accounts, at all depository institutions, including commercial and savings banks, savings and loan associations, and credit unions. Travelers checks also are included in the definition of transactions money. Since $1 in currency and $1 in checkable deposits are freely convertible into each other and both can be used directly for expenditures, they are money in equal degree. However, only the cash and balances held by the nonbank public are counted in the money supply. Deposits of the U.S. Treasury, depository institutions, foreign banks and official institutions, as well as vault cash in depository institutions are excluded.

10-06-2008, 10:21 AM

shit grows out of the sidewalks around here.

badgoalie85 · 10-06-2008, 02:48 PM

great.
fucking.
movie.

badgoalie85 · 12-04-2008, 05:32 PM

bump

kameelyun · 12-04-2008, 10:48 PM

^^^Thanks. Actually, after having posted the thread, I ended up not seeing the entire thing uninterrupted, until about a week and a half or so ago. (Maybe it was the weed, but I ended up losing my focus after a few minutes and would switch tabs to play around on facebook!) After having completed it, I would agree it's very thought-provoking.

Center · 12-10-2008, 04:55 PM

My god................. ...........

edit : nvm

wow...

10-05-2008, 11:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hostile YaHookan Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,098 Thanks: 35 Thanked 197 Times in 134 Posts	I'm really enjoying this. These 'Economic Hitman' interviews are AMAZING. __________________ It's getting better. It's getting better all the time. - Richard Starkey

10-05-2008, 12:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Captdoug713 Thats my fucknjobasshole! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North America Posts: 1,258 Thanks: 128 Thanked 75 Times in 51 Posts	The Venus Project Sounds cool. Still watching Part 2. Good so far. __________________ Don't step on the grass, Sam "Freedom in general may be defined as the absence of obstacles to the realization of desires." Morality is doing whats right no matter what your told. Faith is is doing what your told do matter if its right or wrong. :

10-05-2008, 02:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,674 Thanks: 4,716 Thanked 5,059 Times in 2,710 Posts	I watched it yesterday, and immediately went looking for a copy of Modern Money Mechanics. I think there may be more to it than what the filmaker is describing, however, as there are alot of economists out there who, if the modern money system were truly a Ponzi Scheme, would have drawn attention to it (Milton Friedman comes to mind here). I know that the history of fiat money has left little to argue about; it speaks for itself. However, it seems that the kind of inflation you saw in the Weimar Republic has taught modern central banks some kind of lesson, because you aren't seeing it now. The part about how the USA and it's huge corporations use debt to subjugate smaller countries, however, really hit home. I feel this predatory banking on a personal level, with my own consumer credit problems. When you look at the way banks set up minimum payment schedules to last years, the way they go after young kids to ensnare them before they've got much life experience (not unlike the way tobacco companies market to kids), and the way they portray credit cards as the ticket to financial freedom in their advertising, you can see clearly the nature of their game. It makes perfect sense that they play the same game on a much larger scale with third world nations. Overall, a really cool movie. The Rev __________________ "You're seriously flying close to the fag-sun, icarus." -Flamingnun

10-06-2008, 09:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
SmokeSomeDoja Lushous Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Erogenous Zones Posts: 17,396 Thanks: 238 Thanked 445 Times in 279 Posts	good movie, i also liked how they focused on solutions and how humans can easily change things for the better....just have to get out of the paradigm were currently in. and i like how they focused on the underlying problems...i.e. self-interest/money/etc....not getting tied up in short term [political] solutions. __________________ fotoz fo yo azz "I've run over black cats that were luckier than me."

10-06-2008, 10:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
Roach Guest Posts: n/a	shit grows out of the sidewalks around here. Attached Images Last edited by Roach; 10-06-2008 at 10:24 AM.

10-05-2008, 02:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
blackdeath88012 YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	shit's fuckin wild man. The Venus Project - The Redesign of a culture

10-05-2008, 11:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Smaerd Guest Posts: n/a	I like this one a lot more then the first one too. VERY interesting.

10-05-2008, 01:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Roach Guest Posts: n/a	much funnier than the first. unusual for a comedy sequel.

10-06-2008, 09:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
Roach Guest Posts: n/a	MODERN MONEY MECHANICS A Workbook on Bank Reserves and Deposit Expansion This complete booklet was originally produced and distributed free by: Public Information Center Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago P. O. Box 834 Chicago, IL 60690-0834 telephone: 312 322 5111 But it is now out of print. Photo copies can be made available by monques@myhome.net, or downloaded in pdf format here ( http://landru.i-link-2.net/monques/MMM.pdf ) 2.7meg, patience if you are on slow connection. Modern Money Mechanics exerpt... What is money ? If money is viewed simply as a tool used to facilitate transactions, only those media that are readily accepted in exchange for goods, services, and other assets need to be considered. Many things - from stones to baseball cards - have served this monetary function through the ages. Today, in the United States, money used in transactions is mainly of three kinds - currency (paper money and coins in the pockets and purses of the public); demand deposits (non-interest bearing checking accounts in banks); and other checkable deposits, such as negotiable order of withdrawal (NOW) accounts, at all depository institutions, including commercial and savings banks, savings and loan associations, and credit unions. Travelers checks also are included in the definition of transactions money. Since $1 in currency and $1 in checkable deposits are freely convertible into each other and both can be used directly for expenditures, they are money in equal degree. However, only the cash and balances held by the nonbank public are counted in the money supply. Deposits of the U.S. Treasury, depository institutions, foreign banks and official institutions, as well as vault cash in depository institutions are excluded.

10-06-2008, 02:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,145 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	great. fucking. movie. __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

12-04-2008, 05:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,145 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	bump __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

12-10-2008, 04:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
Center YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: on my way home Posts: 743 Thanks: 13 Thanked 103 Times in 72 Posts	My god................. ........... edit : nvm wow... Last edited by Center; 12-10-2008 at 04:59 PM.

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