xgenra

I can understand anyone wanting to smoke pot if they have cancer, glaucoma, etc.
I can understand some recreational use as well.
but if you are looking for some kind of spiritual enlightenment, I really suggest you put the joint out and look up "paramhansa yogananda" and "kiriya"
Ive tried pot twice in my life and I will never understand how paranoia is somehow spiritually enlightening.
jai guru

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Yoga...........lol!

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GirlsHateMe

isnt this the same guy who wanted to grow 1000 bucks worth of "chronic" a week?

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Sugar420

ive gone camping twice in my life and i will never understand how being cold and wet and hungry and afraid in the woods is somehow a worthwhile experience.

awwsuga23

why in the world did u join a forum of pot smokers if you dont like to smoke pot? and i have never had any paranoia when i smoke weed. cocain, yes very paranoid, pot..never

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SageTree

I will say that after reading his Autobiography I felt that I learned alot and added clarity to things I already knew/felt/considered. The we celebrated Dawali with a hindu friend. I don't eat meat, eggs weren't an issue, and alcohol was easy, so I stopped smoking for a week. I have been smoking alot less these days as my practice with Yoga and Meditation deepens, I will admit. I am not going to be quick to say its only that, because alot of aspects of my life are changing right now, that could also be leading that direction. With that said. The most invigourating part of that book for me was a long pursuit of understanding my first religious language, of which, is Christianity. I have read much in search of words and concepts to touch my sense of "God" in words. I have a strong sense of what I perceive as so, but like to hear a concept to challenge my bounds. What I found in his books is an almost literal descriptions of how I felt spiritually since I was a small child in church, the reason, that made me feel limited by the Bible's words, and the Logical application and science, close to my rational.

While I am interested in what Kriya Yoga is on a basic inquary, I would be considering what feels right to me just as I always have. The Buddahs words, ' If it doesn't make sense, try to reason it out, keep considering, but don't believe it unless you can make sense of it, even this advice.' Where the first words I read from him, and lead to my initial steps.

While I do love to read and learn from a phyical perspective, I also remeber the words of Paramahansa's guru, when he said, ' If you spend all your time learning scripture, what time is left for inward diving for pearls?' And Shams advice to Rumi as he pushed his book into the fountain and told him to start living, all motivate me to always follow the true intention that guides my life, and that is living out that love.

In the end it makes it easy for me to communicate in a way that people understand with many perspectives on one Truth.

Yoganadiji's writing profoundly touched my thought and soul, and I truely felt an enveloping love and realization as I read these words, and then walked into the world.

However I still do smoke almost daily, and I don't feel this impeads my thoughts. I still feel today what was true to me long ago, that cannabis is a spitual tool for me, and even mushies once or twice a year, are good for me, in the way and amount I take of them. In the Autobiography, he even says that 'hallucinagens will take you too a place that many aren't ready to see.' I feel I have been there and have always been good with the traveling there. To the place where my Ego is washed away and I am an void being filled with the Love and Wisdom of Everlasting. I don't dilude my thoughts with these teachers, It polishes my lense to reflect Light better, seeing my True Nature easily, and learning to reflect that Light back to others. I want try to spark a glint of their soul, and look for the Light in them.

All the open thoughts and feelings stay with me as a lesson that know I'm now capable of, or now, That I have the question that I couldn't think to ask before.

Thanks for listening to my tangent for a while. I really have not had many people to talk to about this, other than my wife, who is my bestfriend and partner, but God bless her for listening, So I guess that I had alot to say.

Thanks for the gift of sharing.

Love
Sage

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Bad dog

I used to do yoga. At one point I did an hour a day, everyday. The deeper I got into it I understood that being stoned was disturbing the yoga.
Since I wasn't ready to stop smoking, I stopped the yoga instead.

Now I just do the asanas in my head, mental yoga.

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SageTree

I'd like to add that I make an effort to be sober when Pose and Sit.

Doing it first thing in the morning how I get around that. Then I also don't find I smoke much later into the day that way as well, so its extra bonus when the first time you spark up is to start chopping dinner.

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Bad dog

I don't smoke in the mornings either. I still feel stoned. That was part of the problem.

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The Rev

Yoga and weed both have their places, both have value. I would advise against denigrating the very subject that joins this community together to advocate anything, however valuable, though.



The Rev

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Bad dog

No one seriously into yoga smokes weed. You just can't, it's a totally different place and they don't mix.

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reverie

Sage Tree said it very well.. Much respect

Like many others here I personally view marijuana as a meditation. Things like yoga, exercise, meditation and marijuana all render very similar responses for me. To me, they are all tools that can be used to take one's current and "normal" perspective and change it to operate in a very objective and new way. This is a vital aspect in genuine exercises in learning and experiencing. It can liberate us from our baggage and allow us to "be".

Also, while marijuana can make one feel uneasy..given the right circumstances and simple conditioning to the substance it as many here have attested can do the opposite very well. It can be very relaxing and offer a great stance of clarity.

More love, Less judging.

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Bad dog

being stoned is being stoned, it's not a form of meditation.
Very few people in the world really know how to meditate.

Meditating on drugs is only psuedo-meditation.
Which is still better than nothing.

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SageTree

In the coarse of my life I feel that cannabis has opened doors in my mind that i wouldn't have known I could walk through. Once I see the door, it's easy to get back to with out aid, and enter it in a more pure mindset. For me its a way to unlock a door, not a crutch to walk to the same door over and over. I respect the places it has opened to me and honour it with moderation.

Love and Acceptance,
Sage

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verklingen

all very presumptuous

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reverie

"Meditation is a mental discipline by which one attempts to get beyond the conditioned, "thinking" mind into a deeper state of relaxation or awareness" - Wiki

Oh the futility of semantic arguments.

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Bad dog

Meditation is a way of tripping naturally. You can't do it stoned.
But it is pointless to argue the point.

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reverie

You're placing your own definition of what "natural" is on the subject. So yeah...when you argue such things it becomes very pointless.

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Bad dog

My wife is a yoga teacher. There is more yoga going on around my life than most peoples.

I also work all the time with 'spiritual' people of all kinds and I'm telling you that in the real world 'spirituality' has nothing to do with drugs.

Although there is a type of spirituallity through drugs and this is a psuedo-spirituallity, it is similar and easy to confuse with the real thing.
I smoke and smoking does give me someform of spirituality but it isn't exactly real because I need the drugs to do it. Without the drugs it's a lot harder.

But seeing as you all know so much more than anyone else then I guess you must be right.

Go on taking drugs and telling yourself that you are being spiritual and that you are meditating and doing yoga, you won't notice the difference, I assure you.

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verklingen

and what is real? that's the problem bondi

i've some experience with yoga and vedic philosophy, and what i took away from it was a sense of the external's illusory nature, including this body through which i navigate it. the only "real" non-illusion is my will, which i exert upon the "external" to achieve various effects. now, while this will and the modes of enacting it arise internally -- which is, in truth, all there is -- all experiences derived therefrom are perceived, by the way this existence is structured, as external. meditation, yoga, drugs. . . it's all much more to do with the will whereby you offer these experiences than the method you choose to enact it, because anything but the will is illusory.

of course the "real" gurus who claim to know what will is best to adopt say "don't do drugs (caffeine, alcohol, anything), don't gamble, don't have sex, just accept the will of this or whatever diety and you'll be good." and those whom by their own choosing decide this is not proper for them can tell the guru to really fuck off, because "real" yoga is no different than "real" christianity or "real" islam. which is to say it is REALLY open to interpretation and not any more binding to the individual than he so chooses.

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