Christianity for non-haters - Page 2

al-Mu'akhkhir · 03-11-2009, 04:44 PM

^ werd, also, what happened to (in as many words) treat others as you would wish to be treated... i mean I'm sure all the heterosexual married couples in america would LOVE if some all-gay religion was pushing legislature to have the hetero-marriages nulled... pretty fucked up.

**SageTree** · 03-11-2009, 04:53 PM

^^^ No kidding that the majority writes what is 'correct' in history, since it's usually to the victor, but since imo, no one is winning here, I'd have to say the majority.

Captdoug713 · 03-11-2009, 06:03 PM

The belief-o-matic says I'm a Secular Humanist. 100%.

SweetSativa · 03-13-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rev

My wife is a Christian, but she has come to an impasse with her current church because of their intolerance toward certain groups, like non-christians, gays, etc. She's looking for a new church, one that orients itself more toward the teachings of Jesus (love, compassion, acceptance) and away from some of the mainstream prejudices her church professes.

Any suggestions on a denomination that might be good for her to look into?

The Rev

Hi Rev. I'm just going to say good luck to her. I mean, I'm sure they're out there but personally I don't think it's a specific denomination. If it were me, I would 'shop around', interview, let herself be known. It's good that she has the ability to draw her own conclusions and sending her kudos for stepping out of that mess.

**SageTree** · 03-13-2009, 04:36 PM

I honestly think if she wants to stay mainline protestant United Church of Christ is the way to fly. Seriously. I could go to one. If the social part is what gets her, the theology will feel like home to her.

Roach · 03-13-2009, 04:52 PM

cDc

dominance/sub-missions

Cult of the Dead Cow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The group was formed in June 1984 at the Farm Pac slaughterhouse by Grandmaster Ratte' (aka Swamp Ratte'), Franken Gibe, and Sid Vicious, three BBS SysOps. The slaughterhouse, a hangout of many Lubbock youth, burned in 1996. (The burned out building was used as a haunted house for several Halloweens after that. In 2001, the grounds surrounding it were converted into the "West Texas Canyon Amphitheater," which closed in 2004.)

In December 1990, cDc member Drunkfux gave birth to the modern hacker con. HoHoCon, usually held in Houston, Texas, was the first hacker conference which invited the participation of both journalists and law enforcement. In all, dFx hosted five annual HoHoCons.

In 1991, cDc was named "Sassiest Underground Computer Group" by Sassy Magazine. Also in 1991, the group began distributing music in the form of cassette tape albums sold through its post office box. Many of these albums are now available online in their entirety.

October 1994 saw the creation of the cDc's Usenet newsgroup, alt.fan.cult-dead-cow.[1] It was thus the first hacking group to have its own Usenet newsgroup. In November of that year, the group claimed responsibility for giving Ronald Reagan Alzheimer's disease, claiming to have done so in 1986 with a blowgun.[2]

The cDc declared war on the Church of Scientology in 1995 during the alt.religion.sciento logy controversy,[3][4] stating

“ We believe that El Ron Hubbard [sic] is actually none other than Heinrich Himmler of the SS, who fled to Argentina and is now responsible for the stealing of babies from hospitals and raising them as 'super-soldiers' for the purpose of overthrowing the U.S. Fed. Govt. in a bloody revolution. We fear plans for a 'Fourth Reich' to be established on our home soil under the vise-like grip of oppression known as Scientology! ”

In 1997, before online distribution of audio files was common, the cDc began distributing original MP3-format music on its website.[5]

In February 2000, the cDc was the subject of an 11-minute documentary short entitled "Disinformation. " Also in February 2000, cDc member Mudge briefed President Bill Clinton on internet security.[6]

[edit] cDc communications
cDc communications is the parent organization of CULT OF THE DEAD COW. However, CULT OF THE DEAD COW is just one of three groups that fall under cDc communications. The other two are the Ninja Strike Force and Hacktivismo.

[edit] Ninja Strike Force
In 1996, the cDc announced the birth of its Ninja Strike Force, a group of "ninja" dedicated to achieving the goals of the cDc, both online and offline.[7] The cDc opened the NSF Dojo in 2004. An NSF Member also operates a streaming radio station, which features recordings of hacker con presentations and other educational programming in addition to a wide range of musical styles and artists.

Membership in the NSF is granted by the cDc to those individuals who stand out in their support of the cDc and its ideals. Members are recognized for their abilities, capabilities, and being the best of the best in their skills.

In 2006, the Ninja Strike Force launched its own website.

farmergiles · 03-13-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captdoug713

The belief-o-matic says I'm a Secular Humanist. 100%.

I think belief o matic got a bit desperate with me as I kept ticking N/A. It said I definitely wasn`t a Roman Catholic or a Jehova`s Witness so that`s a result I guess.

Roach · 03-13-2009, 09:48 PM

I agree with Kami.

Shakers and Quakers are about the most non-fanatic basic christians I can think of. And they "practice it" like they're supposed to.........."they don't preach it", or try to force it on any others.

As far as any religion, well I find Sufism to be amusing.

**SageTree** · 03-14-2009, 07:24 AM

The Shakers do spawn from the Quakers, and both are from England. Quakers are technically mystics, as are the Sufis. Believing we can all directly experiance God.

"Shakers tended to be more emotional and demonstrative in their worship. Shakers also believed that their lives should be dedicated to pursuing perfection and continuously confessing their sins and attempting to stop sinning."

This is a snippet I found on Wiki, after feelinging pretty sure there were no Shakers left.

"Although there were six thousand believers at the peak of the Shaker movement, there were only twelve Shakers left by 1920. In the United States there is one remaining active Shaker community, at Sabbathday Lake, Maine, which as of 2008 has four members."

And this is why there aren't any left:

Strict believers in celibacy, Shakers maintained their numbers through conversion and adoption of orphans. Turnover was very high; the group reached maximum size of about 6,000 full members in 1840, but as of 2008 had only four members left.

The Shakers of New England should not be confused with the religion of the Indian Shakers of the Pacific Northwest of North America

Shakers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Religious Society of Friends - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just some History there. Joining a Shaker church would entail joining their commune in Maine it appears.

SageTree

**SageTree** · 04-09-2009, 10:14 AM

Rev did your wife ever find resolve in this situation?

03-11-2009, 04:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
al-Mu'akhkhir Vem Para Ficar Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in some pussy Posts: 3,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 351 Times in 270 Posts	^ werd, also, what happened to (in as many words) treat others as you would wish to be treated... i mean I'm sure all the heterosexual married couples in america would LOVE if some all-gay religion was pushing legislature to have the hetero-marriages nulled... pretty fucked up. __________________

03-11-2009, 04:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	^^^ No kidding that the majority writes what is 'correct' in history, since it's usually to the victor, but since imo, no one is winning here, I'd have to say the majority. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-11-2009, 06:03 PM	#23 (permalink)
Captdoug713 Thats my fucknjobasshole! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North America Posts: 1,262 Thanks: 134 Thanked 75 Times in 51 Posts	The belief-o-matic says I'm a Secular Humanist. 100%. __________________ Don't step on the grass, Sam "Freedom in general may be defined as the absence of obstacles to the realization of desires." Morality is doing whats right no matter what your told. Faith is is doing what your told do matter if its right or wrong. :

03-13-2009, 04:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	I honestly think if she wants to stay mainline protestant United Church of Christ is the way to fly. Seriously. I could go to one. If the social part is what gets her, the theology will feel like home to her. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-13-2009, 04:52 PM	#26 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,182 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,984 Times in 1,507 Posts	cDc dominance/sub-missions Cult of the Dead Cow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The group was formed in June 1984 at the Farm Pac slaughterhouse by Grandmaster Ratte' (aka Swamp Ratte'), Franken Gibe, and Sid Vicious, three BBS SysOps. The slaughterhouse, a hangout of many Lubbock youth, burned in 1996. (The burned out building was used as a haunted house for several Halloweens after that. In 2001, the grounds surrounding it were converted into the "West Texas Canyon Amphitheater," which closed in 2004.) In December 1990, cDc member Drunkfux gave birth to the modern hacker con. HoHoCon, usually held in Houston, Texas, was the first hacker conference which invited the participation of both journalists and law enforcement. In all, dFx hosted five annual HoHoCons. In 1991, cDc was named "Sassiest Underground Computer Group" by Sassy Magazine. Also in 1991, the group began distributing music in the form of cassette tape albums sold through its post office box. Many of these albums are now available online in their entirety. October 1994 saw the creation of the cDc's Usenet newsgroup, alt.fan.cult-dead-cow.[1] It was thus the first hacking group to have its own Usenet newsgroup. In November of that year, the group claimed responsibility for giving Ronald Reagan Alzheimer's disease, claiming to have done so in 1986 with a blowgun.[2] The cDc declared war on the Church of Scientology in 1995 during the alt.religion.sciento logy controversy,[3][4] stating “ We believe that El Ron Hubbard [sic] is actually none other than Heinrich Himmler of the SS, who fled to Argentina and is now responsible for the stealing of babies from hospitals and raising them as 'super-soldiers' for the purpose of overthrowing the U.S. Fed. Govt. in a bloody revolution. We fear plans for a 'Fourth Reich' to be established on our home soil under the vise-like grip of oppression known as Scientology! ” In 1997, before online distribution of audio files was common, the cDc began distributing original MP3-format music on its website.[5] In February 2000, the cDc was the subject of an 11-minute documentary short entitled "Disinformation. " Also in February 2000, cDc member Mudge briefed President Bill Clinton on internet security.[6] [edit] cDc communications cDc communications is the parent organization of CULT OF THE DEAD COW. However, CULT OF THE DEAD COW is just one of three groups that fall under cDc communications. The other two are the Ninja Strike Force and Hacktivismo. [edit] Ninja Strike Force In 1996, the cDc announced the birth of its Ninja Strike Force, a group of "ninja" dedicated to achieving the goals of the cDc, both online and offline.[7] The cDc opened the NSF Dojo in 2004. An NSF Member also operates a streaming radio station, which features recordings of hacker con presentations and other educational programming in addition to a wide range of musical styles and artists. Membership in the NSF is granted by the cDc to those individuals who stand out in their support of the cDc and its ideals. Members are recognized for their abilities, capabilities, and being the best of the best in their skills. In 2006, the Ninja Strike Force launched its own website. __________________ לזיין את הקופים Last edited by Roach; 03-13-2009 at 04:55 PM.

03-13-2009, 09:48 PM	#28 (permalink)
Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7,182 Thanks: 2,372 Thanked 1,984 Times in 1,507 Posts	I agree with Kami. Shakers and Quakers are about the most non-fanatic basic christians I can think of. And they "practice it" like they're supposed to.........."they don't preach it", or try to force it on any others. As far as any religion, well I find Sufism to be amusing. __________________ לזיין את הקופים

03-14-2009, 07:24 AM	#29 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	The Shakers do spawn from the Quakers, and both are from England. Quakers are technically mystics, as are the Sufis. Believing we can all directly experiance God. "Shakers tended to be more emotional and demonstrative in their worship. Shakers also believed that their lives should be dedicated to pursuing perfection and continuously confessing their sins and attempting to stop sinning." This is a snippet I found on Wiki, after feelinging pretty sure there were no Shakers left. "Although there were six thousand believers at the peak of the Shaker movement, there were only twelve Shakers left by 1920. In the United States there is one remaining active Shaker community, at Sabbathday Lake, Maine, which as of 2008 has four members." And this is why there aren't any left: Strict believers in celibacy, Shakers maintained their numbers through conversion and adoption of orphans. Turnover was very high; the group reached maximum size of about 6,000 full members in 1840, but as of 2008 had only four members left. The Shakers of New England should not be confused with the religion of the Indian Shakers of the Pacific Northwest of North America Shakers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Religious Society of Friends - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Just some History there. Joining a Shaker church would entail joining their commune in Maine it appears. SageTree __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

04-09-2009, 10:14 AM	#30 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	Rev did your wife ever find resolve in this situation? __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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