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Old 04-02-2009, 05:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I was looking at those carvings and thought, I dont see anything and then right there it was a helicopter and then the airplane both of which have an upright tail fin.

Reminds me of one of these..


There's something we dont know. That big stone with all the people in front is AMAZING!! You couldnt pull that with a TANK let alone elephants unless you had a sea of them as far as the eye could see.
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If we knew wouldn't that ruin the mystery?
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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maybe at that time they were trying to find a way to fly. its not an uncommon thing, humans always had the dream of flight. it is the one thing we can't do, we can walk and swim but not fly. and just because they were living in ancient times doesn't mean that they hadn't come to terms with the fact that a single person can never fly on their own without aid. and that wings are necessary to fly. the helicopter idea isn't all that advanced either, all you have to do is observe the way a maple seed floats down to figure out that a rotating fin can produce lift.

these are all simple concepts and with the human capability of abstract thought anyone could take the design of a bird and combine it with a maple seed concept and think it would work. however they just didn't have materials or a way to power something like that. so it must have remained a concept until everyone who understood it died out.
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Stuff is amazing. I think it is more possible that we got help then believing in the invisible man in the sky. The ruins in South America were built by giants that escaped a deluge in there land. Or so the story goes. Sounds like Geneses chapters 1-6. Lots of stuff there. Good book to read is the 12th planet.
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I hate to burst any UFO bubbles here..... well, no , ok that's a lie. I am having wonderful fun bursting silly idea bubbles here If there is one thing I truly love to do is take ridiculous theories based on nonsense and answer them with simple truths which are so simple they cannot be argued.


For starters, just because you can't imagine an answer for how to do somethign without modern machinery doesn't mean it can't be done. It simply means the depths of your imagination are limited to what you think you already know. The answer to what you do not know is not "Aliens."

Since you can't disprove aliens, I won't bother trying. On the other hand engineering feats which are claimed to be impossible and have perfectly logical explanations I can easily disprove.

So, moving big rocks. Not impossible. Not even close. A puzzle for a while, sure but no longer.

Example:
Ba'albek, Lebanon. - (The 'Stone of the South) Estimated to be around 1158.696 tons

Unmovable? Not hardly. The Cape Hatteras lighthouse was moved 2900 feet, across sand, in the summer of 1999. It took a little over 20+ days. No cranes. Although steel was used, as well as hydraulic jacks and other house moving equipment it still could have been accomplished in ancient times. Why mention this? Because people love to claim that the stone in Lebanon could not be moved today using modern equipment. Which is completely incorrect since the lighthouse weighed in at 4,800 tons!!! Over 4 times the weight of the Lebanon stone. No aliens required.


All the mystery behind the building of the pyramids and Stonehenge and so on have all been laid to rest. It has been demonstrated how all of this was done using a few different techniques. The only mystery remaining is which techniques were used when and were.

W.T. Wallington has moved blocks as big as Stonehenge BY HIMSELF and explained how it works and video taped himself doing it. Feel free to watch the video here where he moves an assembled pole barn and plants a Stonehenge sized piece of concrete upright rock in the ground all by himself. Adding another person simply made the pole barn move faster.

The tools of his trade? "Sticks and stones." Hardly alien technology.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7a...ology_creation

So if ya wanna talk about stories in the National enquirer or interpret ancient drawings and read into things you feel imply the existence of aliens by all means, have fun. Just PLEASE stop trying to keep these ridiculous claims of alien engineering mythology alive since it ends up stealing the truth from people who deserve to understand it.

If nothing else, perpetuating misinformation about ideas which can easily be proven incorrect just hurts your cause. Cuz it's just so easy to point to the truth and say, "Man, these dudes are not even close to understanding the truth about what CAN be proven and constantly rely on completely misinformed sources so how can I possibly believe anything they say about what can't be proven. If they can't even research such easy to find answers of simple physics and engineering then how are we supposed to believe anything else they say or "research?" Obviously their skills of research are seriously flawed and most likely they are just grasping at straws which they thing will substantiate the story they WANT to be the truth as apposed to facing the facts of what IS the truth."

So science doesn't look the other way. It doesn't not want to understand. It's not so arrogant that it refuses the truth. These are ridiculous claims. The fact of the matter is that in science, if you can prove something which no one else has figured out., yer a freakin hero and yer gonna get paid! The motivation is to disprove the status qua. Not try to conform to it. No matter how many people thinks it's BS, there will always be an Edison in the crowd who will cash in on makin everyone else look stupid. THAT is how science works. You couldn't get all the scientists in the world to join in on any one conspiracy or point of view. They like to argue with each other too much. lol Therein lies their arrogance. In one upping each other and making a name by proving anything they can outside the accepted views. Hard as it may be.

So if yer gonna claim that aliens must have moved all the big rocks in the world cuz you can't imagine how it could be done with either ancient or modern technology, get a new hobby. Cuz yer imagination is too limited to stick with this one

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they were definetly involved in the planning stage,..i think as knowledge of genetics becomes more sophisticated we might be able to isolate their more or less direct descendants from among a population ..

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I hate to burst any UFO bubbles here..... well, no , ok that's a lie. I am having wonderful fun bursting silly idea bubbles here If there is one thing I truly love to do is take ridiculous theories based on nonsense and answer them with simple truths which are so simple they cannot be argued.


For starters, just because you can't imagine an answer for how to do somethign without modern machinery doesn't mean it can't be done. It simply means the depths of your imagination are limited to what you think you already know. The answer to what you do not know is not "Aliens."

Since you can't disprove aliens, I won't bother trying. On the other hand engineering feats which are claimed to be impossible and have perfectly logical explanations I can easily disprove.

So, moving big rocks. Not impossible. Not even close. A puzzle for a while, sure but no longer.

Example:
Ba'albek, Lebanon. - (The 'Stone of the South) Estimated to be around 1158.696 tons

Unmovable? Not hardly. The Cape Hatteras lighthouse was moved 2900 feet, across sand, in the summer of 1999. It took a little over 20+ days. No cranes. Although steel was used, as well as hydraulic jacks and other house moving equipment it still could have been accomplished in ancient times. Why mention this? Because people love to claim that the stone in Lebanon could not be moved today using modern equipment. Which is completely incorrect since the lighthouse weighed in at 4,800 tons!!! Over 4 times the weight of the Lebanon stone. No aliens required.


All the mystery behind the building of the pyramids and Stonehenge and so on have all been laid to rest. It has been demonstrated how all of this was done using a few different techniques. The only mystery remaining is which techniques were used when and were.

W.T. Wallington has moved blocks as big as Stonehenge BY HIMSELF and explained how it works and video taped himself doing it. Feel free to watch the video here where he moves an assembled pole barn and plants a Stonehenge sized piece of concrete upright rock in the ground all by himself. Adding another person simply made the pole barn move faster.

The tools of his trade? "Sticks and stones." Hardly alien technology.

Dailymotion - Stonehenge - forgotten technology - une vidéo Art et Création

So if ya wanna talk about stories in the National enquirer or interpret ancient drawings and read into things you feel imply the existence of aliens by all means, have fun. Just PLEASE stop trying to keep these ridiculous claims of alien engineering mythology alive since it ends up stealing the truth from people who deserve to understand it.

If nothing else, perpetuating misinformation about ideas which can easily be proven incorrect just hurts your cause. Cuz it's just so easy to point to the truth and say, "Man, these dudes are not even close to understanding the truth about what CAN be proven and constantly rely on completely misinformed sources so how can I possibly believe anything they say about what can't be proven. If they can't even research such easy to find answers of simple physics and engineering then how are we supposed to believe anything else they say or "research?" Obviously their skills of research are seriously flawed and most likely they are just grasping at straws which they thing will substantiate the story they WANT to be the truth as apposed to facing the facts of what IS the truth."

So science doesn't look the other way. It doesn't not want to understand. It's not so arrogant that it refuses the truth. These are ridiculous claims. The fact of the matter is that in science, if you can prove something which no one else has figured out., yer a freakin hero and yer gonna get paid! The motivation is to disprove the status qua. Not try to conform to it. No matter how many people thinks it's BS, there will always be an Edison in the crowd who will cash in on makin everyone else look stupid. THAT is how science works. You couldn't get all the scientists in the world to join in on any one conspiracy or point of view. They like to argue with each other too much. lol Therein lies their arrogance. In one upping each other and making a name by proving anything they can outside the accepted views. Hard as it may be.

So if yer gonna claim that aliens must have moved all the big rocks in the world cuz you can't imagine how it could be done with either ancient or modern technology, get a new hobby.
Cuz yer imagination is too limited to stick with this one

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ok major buzz kill.

just to argue with that, no one here said the stone was immovable. but you did say that they used HYDRAULIC jacks to move the light house.

do you see any ancient technology similar to hydraulics in lebanon? I don't understand your 'simple logic.' there's no way they could have moved the light house without some type of modern piece of technology such as hydraulics in twenty days.



what I have thought of though is what if they had some type of bio-degradable organic technology. I mean we are just figuring out that we can combine organic transistors with electronics to make them even faster.

sorry some guy, your too cocky for me.

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I've seen the backs of power amps
and other high voltage and subsequent high heat generating machines.

Large plates of metal scalloped, fan, or honeycomb shaped,
where the large plates distribute heat away from the machine,
while air passes through the "cooling plates".



Those slanted pillars look like heat distributors
like The Fly's Teleporter Machine



Amplifier in completely soldered copper housings. The housing is a good heat dissipation.
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ANCIENT ASTRONAUT HYPOTHESIS

The ancient astronaut theory seeks to explain anomalies in the human past, whether they be archaeological, mythological, anthropological, or palaeoanthropologica l. Here, we are concerned with the latter – the ancient astronaut theory for the origins of man, i.e. Homo sapiens, approximately 180,000 years ago.

Ancient astronaut writers believe that a race of intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited and/or colonised Earth in the remote past, whereupon they upgraded the primitive hominid Homo erectus by means of genetic engineering to create the human race as we know it: Homo sapiens.
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what about this shit then huh?

Nazca Lines and Cahuachi Culture - Crystalinks

the HUGE animals patterns that can ONLY be seen from the sky. who were they making these symbols/paths for and why?

I mean it's been mentioned it could paths they walked while praying or something, but still why would they make the symbols so perfect that you'd have to be in the sky to actually see?









^those are picture taken from an airplane....


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That spider drawing in the ground is of a specific species too, which is found on another continent. I forget the exact specifics, but it is referenced in the book "Fingerprints of the Gods" . It is a good book about this topic, cited fully, and good photos.



And what about the 30,000 year old maps that show Antartica ice free with modern day precision. Using an equation to make the spherical shape of the earth transcribe accurately to a flat surface (so the sizes and shapes of land masses are not distorted) Those equations were "invented" only in the past 400 years supposidly.

damn I wish I had my book handy so I could cite things. So I will stop my rant here.
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yea I mean the drawings are weird, but what's even more weird is the completely flat plateaus with triangular runways.
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while the antikythera mechanism is an engineering marvel for it's age i don't feel it has anything to do with aat.

it's amazing though how intelligent people were thousands of years ago...we're led to believe that ancient man was simple minded but i totally disagree. think about it...nowadays we have books and whatnot to look back on for information, back then they didn't have that they had to figure out these problems on their own.

language and mathmatics blow my mind, i can't even speak proper english or do math good and these 'simple minded' humans invented it.

i would like to know how they cut the gears on the antikythera mechanism 2,000 years ago.
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i read that archeologists are using a new kind of sonar to map ancient sites which have passed underwater through the millennia. it's sure to turn up something unexplainable, so stay tuned
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this is all foolishness, why would aliens come interfere with primative culture then up and leave?
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And what about the 30,000 year old maps that show Antartica
Human civilisation is generally regarded as being about 6,000 years old, so that would be astonishing.
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Human civilisation is generally regarded as being about 6,000 years old, so that would be astonishing.
One of the maps is the Piri Reis Map, showing an ice free antartica. Recent radar mapping of Antartica confirms the maps precise accuracy. Antartica has been ice locked for at least 10,000 years, how did a map showing details like rivers and mountain ranges and other topographical features come to exist?. Other fun wrenches to throw into the 6,000 year old humanity line of thinking is this....

The sphinx has large amounts of water erosion, and it is unargueably water erosion. Wearing into pits and soft spots in the rock on the top rock faces. The pit the Sphinx is in fills with sand within decades if it is not reguarly cleaned out. If the desert-like conditions of the area are over 20,000 years old then how could the Sphinx get so water worn while buried under sand?


I am not going so far as to say it was aliens that took an interest in our ancestors. I am just saying that if there was a human civilization 20 or 30 thousand years ago that for reasons unknown collapsed, how much would be left for archeologists to find today. Reading "The World Without Us" leads me to believe that not much would be around, except gigantic stone monuments..... maybe like the ones that our recent 6,000 year old civilizations devoleped around, and attributed to a past race of godlike humans. Machu Picchu's stone temples, the sphinx, lake Titicaca's monoliths, all of them attribute the creation of the monuments to a past race of humans long gone. Maybe the Myans did not build Machu Piccus, maybe they were squatters?


I very much believe that if our species has been our species for 100,000 years, it would be daft to assume that only our recent 6,000 year family had the ability to create and learn. What were we doing the other 94,000 years? The human mind is not an idle thing, and neither is history.
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