brainwashed

Dex · 03-25-2009, 02:03 AM

You know, I think some people I work with have been totally brainwashed. When I'm patrolling the streets of Baghdad, I look around and I see people. Women, children, and average people who were unfortunatley born in this shithole. When I see the kids I see them as kids, just like the ones in America.

I'm always being criticized by my peers. They see everyone here as the enemy. "fuck the kids"... They look at them as subhuman creatures. I can't do it. They are just people to me. Everyone suspects that i'd hesitate on the trigger. A lot of these guys have some sort of blood lust... i don't get it. I don't have the desire to kill, But I have an amazing desire to stay alive. I'll do what I have to to retain my morals and survive. Sometimes I think war and morality are mutually exclusive

Europe made me soft. It took away my edge. I found a loophole and thus I was never really working for a whole year just living in europe on a government paycheck...Now I'm back to this army shit and I'm nothing like any of these people... I have a couple close friends but other than that i'm a social pariah. People think I'm soft. Just because I don't have a desire to riddle some 15 year old with bullets, doesn't mean I can't fight. Perhaps that bloodlust is a good mentality for war.

Sometimes I think i'm going to go out like that one guy who was greased by that sniper handing candy out to the kids.

al-Mu'akhkhir · 03-25-2009, 02:09 AM

why dont you stfu

shai_hulud · 03-25-2009, 03:51 AM

Well... it's understandabley tough to remain 'human' while being a part of a war. It's gotta be a psychological mind-fuck.

IMO good on you for thinking the way you do.

GL and all that.

Debaser · 03-25-2009, 06:15 AM

Bloodlust is good for mindless drones, take solace in the fact that, unlike your army bretheren around you, that you are still human, and won't be there forever.

Kishar · 03-25-2009, 06:19 AM

dont worry once you get your 1st kill you wont feel like that anymore.

Grieves · 03-25-2009, 09:34 AM

today dex realizes he's human...

Mikey · 03-25-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by grieves

today dex realizes he's human...

i was just thinking that outloud

maszac · 03-25-2009, 09:59 AM

Dex, you seem like a good dude and I hope you come out on top.

As for a guy getting shot handing out candy, thats fucked.

Flamingnun · 03-25-2009, 10:19 AM

Really though dude, I got the jist of the army from watching movies and getting stoned. It's taken you like 3 years, a trip round Europe, and now the Middle East to realise this shit dex?

**SageTree** · 03-25-2009, 10:46 AM

I'm glad that you are in the mindset you have just found. Keep your values and keep 'loving' the people the military was sent to 'help'.

Roach · 03-25-2009, 12:08 PM

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Perhaps that bloodlust is a good mentality for war.

only for those who wish to come home upright.

Iraq and Afghanistan do not want American troops on their soil.
So realize where you are, and why you are really there, and act accordingly.
Shit will be history before you grasp the moment.

msicidron · 03-25-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex

Sometimes I think war and morality are mutually exclusive

no shit.

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Originally Posted by HYPERFUKBOT

why dont you stfu

shakeNbake06 · 03-25-2009, 04:12 PM

ya, seems like the majority of military men (mainly infantry) are brainwashed, it's pretty sad. I met these guys that were actually excited about their upcoming deployment to Iraq.. I asked why, and they said they were "hella suicidal" and just wanted to kill some Iraqis.. Just their ways of thinking are so obscured and twisted, It's like they completely lose all emotions, or never had any to begin with.. They view the so called "enemy" as animals, and less human than themselves. How the fuck can any emotionally stable person be excited about going to war and killing people?

pacman · 03-25-2009, 04:41 PM

brainwashed? in the military?

noooo

What you need to do is get that feeling of adrenaline when your engaging the enemy. Do you guys even fight anymore or is it just a couple renegade insurgents and suicide bombers? And remember to accept the fact that you're already dead.

BigSpliffSmoka · 03-25-2009, 05:14 PM

Most combat arms MOS's take the slightly retarded and under developed. Mainly MP's..... I bet most of these people with the "bloodlust" have been to Iraq before.. I guarantee no first timer has it.
As much as people think they are ready for that environment... they aren't. They find it out once they are walking down a city block in an area with buildings more than two stories high. I've been there.. done it with an airborne unit none the less... I thought it would be a rush.. and it is.. just in a wave of shock and awe and what the fuck

toastyroach · 03-25-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamingnun

Really though dude, I got the jist of the army from watching movies and getting stoned. It's taken you like 3 years, a trip round Europe, and now the Middle East to realise this shit dex?

although i kind of pity the poor bastard... el oh fuckin el

my_scatterheart · 03-25-2009, 05:29 PM

Good dude. Glad to hear it. Don't lose the ability to see humans as humans.
However, don't forget that you're a target. Watch your ass. Because sad as it is, some children aren't just children. Namsayin? Good work on keepkeepin it real though, holmes.

notepad · 03-25-2009, 05:59 PM

its scary how fucked up the people in the army are.

tedkennedy · 03-25-2009, 06:45 PM

dex im not saying you are dumb, but most people in the military are dumb as shit. anyone who looks at another human and see's them as "the enemy" is a fucking idiot and thats the basic reason why there will never be an end to this stupid bullshit in the middle east

Canuck Wisdom · 03-25-2009, 08:04 PM

Good for you Dex. There's no need to loose your innocence (w/ regard to killing), even if it would make you harder.

03-25-2009, 02:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
al-Mu'akhkhir Vem Para Ficar Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in some pussy Posts: 3,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 351 Times in 270 Posts	why dont you stfu __________________

03-25-2009, 03:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
shai_hulud Om nom Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ab, ca Posts: 2,161 Thanks: 440 Thanked 600 Times in 335 Posts	Well... it's understandabley tough to remain 'human' while being a part of a war. It's gotta be a psychological mind-fuck. IMO good on you for thinking the way you do. GL and all that. __________________ "There are only three useless things in this world. Nuns' nipples, bishops' balls and an employer's praise without a raise."

03-25-2009, 06:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Debaser Baked Fresh Daily Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,186 Thanks: 32 Thanked 303 Times in 177 Posts	Bloodlust is good for mindless drones, take solace in the fact that, unlike your army bretheren around you, that you are still human, and won't be there forever. __________________ Wouldn't it be great to heal the world with only a song? Message CM47: Let's go pay some hookers to knock our junk around.

03-25-2009, 06:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kishar loading user title.. Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: subcutaneous layer Posts: 2,236 Thanks: 121 Thanked 223 Times in 156 Posts	dont worry once you get your 1st kill you wont feel like that anymore. __________________ Those Americans who believed that we could live under the illusion of isolationism wanted the American eagle to imitate the tactics of the ostrich. Now, many of those same people, afraid that we may be sticking our necks out, want our national bird to be turned into a turtle. But we prefer to retain the eagle as it is--flying high and striking hard. "FDR"

03-25-2009, 09:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Grieves The Worst Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Interstate 8 Posts: 12,081 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2,560 Thanked 3,111 Times in 1,708 Posts	today dex realizes he's human... __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

03-25-2009, 09:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
maszac toast Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: kc Posts: 915 Thanks: 1,458 Thanked 266 Times in 162 Posts	Dex, you seem like a good dude and I hope you come out on top. As for a guy getting shot handing out candy, thats fucked.

03-25-2009, 10:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Flamingnun Shpadoinkle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: roflmao Posts: 17,491 Thanks: 1,046 Thanked 2,633 Times in 1,185 Posts	Really though dude, I got the jist of the army from watching movies and getting stoned. It's taken you like 3 years, a trip round Europe, and now the Middle East to realise this shit dex? __________________

03-25-2009, 10:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	I'm glad that you are in the mindset you have just found. Keep your values and keep 'loving' the people the military was sent to 'help'. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

03-25-2009, 04:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
shakeNbake06 Old School Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 368 Thanks: 21 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	ya, seems like the majority of military men (mainly infantry) are brainwashed, it's pretty sad. I met these guys that were actually excited about their upcoming deployment to Iraq.. I asked why, and they said they were "hella suicidal" and just wanted to kill some Iraqis.. Just their ways of thinking are so obscured and twisted, It's like they completely lose all emotions, or never had any to begin with.. They view the so called "enemy" as animals, and less human than themselves. How the fuck can any emotionally stable person be excited about going to war and killing people?

03-25-2009, 04:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
pacman lets get tropical Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: florida Posts: 711 Thanks: 60 Thanked 193 Times in 143 Posts	brainwashed? in the military? noooo What you need to do is get that feeling of adrenaline when your engaging the enemy. Do you guys even fight anymore or is it just a couple renegade insurgents and suicide bombers? And remember to accept the fact that you're already dead.

03-25-2009, 05:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
BigSpliffSmoka ...@ War, BRB Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 967 Thanks: 16 Thanked 54 Times in 41 Posts	Most combat arms MOS's take the slightly retarded and under developed. Mainly MP's..... I bet most of these people with the "bloodlust" have been to Iraq before.. I guarantee no first timer has it. As much as people think they are ready for that environment... they aren't. They find it out once they are walking down a city block in an area with buildings more than two stories high. I've been there.. done it with an airborne unit none the less... I thought it would be a rush.. and it is.. just in a wave of shock and awe and what the fuck __________________ So if the devil wear Prada, Adam Eve wear Nada, I'm in between, but way more fresher.

03-25-2009, 05:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,565 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,324 Times in 1,870 Posts	Good dude. Glad to hear it. Don't lose the ability to see humans as humans. However, don't forget that you're a target. Watch your ass. Because sad as it is, some children aren't just children. Namsayin? Good work on keepkeepin it real though, holmes. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega

03-25-2009, 05:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
notepad dick 'slyde' hyde Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: above the clouds Posts: 2,026 Thanks: 821 Thanked 348 Times in 178 Posts	its scary how fucked up the people in the army are.

03-25-2009, 06:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
tedkennedy now 14% blacker Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,229 Thanks: 71 Thanked 585 Times in 364 Posts	dex im not saying you are dumb, but most people in the military are dumb as shit. anyone who looks at another human and see's them as "the enemy" is a fucking idiot and thats the basic reason why there will never be an end to this stupid bullshit in the middle east __________________ matthew munari

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