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Old 03-29-2009, 03:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fear

What do you think fear "is" ?

Why is it manifested the way it is, and can it be subdued?

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you want someone to explain in words what fear is?

of course you can control your fear. a brave person isn't fearless, they only set aside their fear.
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Fear in my opinion is really nothing more than an animals defense mechanism. For example - there's a reason why many humans are afraid of the dark, it was implanted in our brain through thousands of years of evolution. When our ancestors were attacked by night time predators, that reality was stuck in their head and is still with us today when little billy and sally need to have a night light to feel safe.

Fear is really nothing more than a chemical reaction in our brain which prepares our body to act in an extreme way in order to avoid some sort of danger or undesired occurrence.

Of course, with any chemical reaction in the brain, things can get wacky. That's why you see people on Dr. Phil who are terrified of Celery and Spatulas.

Fear IMO can never be completely overcome as long as you are concerned with your own well being. Even worry is a form of fear. If you worry about something, it is based out of fear that some kind of negative consequence could await you for one reason or another.

but I don't know. Lately I've been afraid of skunks. I go outside a lot in the middle of the night and have smelt skunk quite often lately. Just the thought of getting sprayed and then having to show up to work reeking of skunk juice for a week just scares the shit out of me.
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you want someone to explain in words what fear is?
I do.. I want a theology crash course on what people perceive are the dynamics at play when we encounter fear.. What may contribute to it. etc.

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of course you can control your fear. a brave person isn't fearless, they only set aside their fear.
Perhaps if this can be done momentarily, it can be continued indefinitely.

You gotta ask how and why the fear can be momentarily suspended. And then the questions unfold as endless.
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fear is the anticipation of knowing the unknown...
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Fear in my opinion is really nothing more than an animals defense mechanism. For example - there's a reason why many humans are afraid of the dark, it was implanted in our brain through thousands of years of evolution. When our ancestors were attacked by night time predators, that reality was stuck in their head and is still with us today when little billy and sally need to have a night light to feel safe.

Fear is really nothing more than a chemical reaction in our brain which prepares our body to act in an extreme way in order to avoid some sort of danger or undesired occurrence.

Of course, with any chemical reaction in the brain, things can get wacky. That's why you see people on Dr. Phil who are terrified of Celery and Spatulas.

Fear IMO can never be completely overcome as long as you are concerned with your own well being. Even worry is a form of fear. If you worry about something, it is based out of fear that some kind of negative consequence could await you for one reason or another.

but I don't know. Lately I've been afraid of skunks. I go outside a lot in the middle of the night and have smelt skunk quite often lately. Just the thought of getting sprayed and then having to show up to work reeking of skunk juice for a week just scares the shit out of me.
If the dynamics of fear is learned through our conditioning could it not simply be just that? Learning from certain circumstances? Perhaps it is not a chemical reaction in the brain as much as it is simply action within it.
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Old 03-29-2009, 04:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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fear is the anticipation of knowing the unknown...
Its interesting that you mention this. It follows what Ive been thinking nicely.

What stood out within my thoughts was that Perhaps fear is the resistance to seeing things as how they really are in the moment, which is caused from the awareness of Space-time.

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Old 03-29-2009, 05:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I want to post more about this later but this post made me think of the way John Mayer succinctly put it...

"Fear is a friend who's misunderstood." - The Heart of Life
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And also this song...I promise I'll have some of my own thoughts to add later...

Moody Blues - The Balance

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After he had journeyed,
And his feet were sore,
And he was tired,
He came upon an orange grove
And he rested
And he lay in the cool,
And while he rested, he took to himself an orange and tasted it,
And it was good.
And he felt the earth to his spine,
And he asked, and he saw the tree above him, and the stars,
And the veins in the leaf,
And the light, and the balance.
And he saw magnificent perfection,
Whereon he thought of himself in balance,
And he knew he was.

Just open your eyes,
And realize, the way it's always been.
Just open your mind
And you will find
The way it's always been.
Just open your heart
And that's a start.

And he thought of those he angered,
For he was not a violent man,
And he thought of those he hurt
For he was not a cruel man
And he thought of those he frightened
For he was not an evil man,
And he understood.
He understood himself.

Upon this he saw that when he was of anger or knew hurt or felt fear,
It was because he was not understanding,

And he learned, compassion.

And with his eye of compassion.
He saw his enemies like unto himself,
And he learned love.
Then, he was answered.

Just open your eyes,
And realize, the way it's always been.
Just open your mind
And you will find
The way it's always been.
Just open your heart
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Fear is the primal idea that something bad is about to happen. Impending doom, disease, judgment. You are never scared because something positive is going to happen. Oh shit bunnies snuggling up to me! Its, always like oh fuck spiders! So as stated before yes it is not knowing the outcome.
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fear is the innevitable result of a desire to control things which cannot be controlled. you can subdue it through a creative consideration of your possible reactions to such things and the feelings they generate within you. if you approach life and what it brings you with positive integration in mind, even fear can be experienced in an uplifting, enlightening manner.
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Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA, Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace.


The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown. -H.P. LOVECRAFT

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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fear is resistance to change. fear is comfort.

change is the fundamental variable in life that allows for experience of any kind. change = time. without time we could not exist.

so fear is natural. whats not natural is when people allow it to affect them negatively. everyone whos ever taken any kind of risk ever will tell you that there was an element of fear involved that they just had to sort of ignore.

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fear is fear.

resistance to change is resistance to change.


how freakin dumb are you all ?

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Fear is an emotional response to threats and danger. It is a basic survival mechanism occurring in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain or the threat of pain. Psychologists John B. Watson, Robert Plutchik, and Paul Ekman have suggested that fear is one of a small set of basic or innate emotions. This set also includes such emotions as joy, sadness, and anger.

Fear should be distinguished from the related emotional state of anxiety, which typically occurs without any external threat. Additionally, fear is related to the specific behaviors of escape and avoidance, whereas anxiety is the result of threats which are perceived to be uncontrollable or unavoidable.

If you don't like the definition of fear..............simply choose some other word.

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so dumb we oversimplify huge complex topics like fear and resistance to change!

go read a book!

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Fear is a powerful and primitive human emotion. It alerts us to the presence of danger and was critical in keeping our ancestors alive. Fear can actually be divided into two stages, biochemical and emotional. The biochemical response is universal, while the emotional response is highly individualized.
Biochemical Reaction

When we confront a perceived danger, our bodies respond in specific ways. Physical reactions to fear include sweating, increased heart rate and high adrenaline levels. This physical response is sometimes known as the “fight or flight” response, in which the body prepares itself to either enter combat or run away.

This biochemical reaction is likely an evolutionary development. It is an automatic response and is crucial to survival.
Emotional Response

The emotional response to fear is highly personalized. Some people are adrenaline junkies, thriving on extreme sports and other fear-inducing thrill situations. Others have a negative reaction to the feeling of fear, avoiding fear-inducing situations at all costs. Although the physical reaction is the same, fear may be perceived as either positive or negative.
Halloween

An entire Halloween industry has been built on people’s enjoyment of fear. The majority of people avoid situations in which there is a high risk of actual injury. Yet they enjoy the experience of being scared in an environment that is actually safe. Horror films are another example of this phenomenon.

Conquering fear presents a new physiological response. The abundance of adrenaline leads to a natural high. The body is energized yet relaxed. Giddiness and elation are common emotions.

Repeated exposure to similar situations leads to familiarity. This greatly reduces the fear response, leading adrenaline junkies to seek out ever new and bigger thrills.
Psychology of Phobias

Anxiety disorders tend to create a fear of fear. Where most people tend to experience fear only during a situation that is perceived as scary, those who suffer from anxiety disorders are afraid that they will become afraid. They perceive their fear responses as negative, and go out of their way to avoid those responses.

A phobia is a twisting of the normal fear response. The fear is directed toward an object or situation that does not present a real danger. The sufferer recognizes that the fear is unreasonable, yet cannot help the reaction. Over time, the fear tends to worsen as the fear of fear response takes hold.
Treating Phobias

Phobia treatments that are based on the psychology of fear tend to focus on such techniques as systematic desensitization and flooding. Both techniques work with the body’s physiological responses to reduce the fear.

In systematic desensitization, the client is gradually led through a series of exposure situations. For example, a client with a fear of snakes may spend the first session talking about snakes. The client would be led through looking at pictures of snakes, playing with toy snakes, and eventually handling a live snake.

Flooding is a controversial technique, but can be quite successful. In flooding, the client is exposed to a vast quantity of the feared object or situation until the fear diminishes.

It is important that such confrontational approaches be undertaken only with the guidance of a trained mental health professional. Real psychological damage can be caused by poor handling of the situation. Under expert supervision, however, these techniques have an excellent rate of success.






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no way am i reading all that.
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To be honest, I don't fear much. The only thing I truly fear, is dying a terribly painful and torchering death. Or snapping one of my bones through my skin, other than that I'm not even scared of dying? I can't fucking wait to get off this earth. I'm not going to do anything to induce and early departure though. Other than slowly killing myself via smoking a lot I guess.

Like I've seen people start their downhill trip of life(hospital death bed) that live for years off and on with complications. My grandmother was about 83 and died last year, she was a heavy smoker. I'm pretty sure it all started during WWII too. Then she just kinda slipped down the hill in a matter of months. I want to go like that too, I don't want to live with complications through my 90's.
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