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Old 04-08-2009, 12:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Marijuana : Sin

I know im gonna get alot of silly answers like "god made the earth so bud is not a sin he's probly smoking right now anyways" but on the real, does anybody think smoking marijuana could be a "sin"? I'm not religous or anything but i do believe in certain things, and i know cocaine grows from the earth, opium, other drugs like that.. but you have to add certain things and do labor work to actually get your product. with weed you can just pick it from the wild and roast it or even eat it.. but what if all the research we've done and all the cross breeding and all the chemicals we put in the dirt and the super efficient lights and reflective walls are breaking some sort of code to marijuana, making it a sin to smoke weed. maybe as humans we are unlocking to many doors and are gonna end up somewhere we dont belong.
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I know im gonna get alot of silly answers like "god made the earth so bud is not a sin he's probly smoking right now anyways" but on the real, does anybody think smoking marijuana could be a "sin"? I'm not religous or anything but i do believe in certain things, and i know cocaine grows from the earth, opium, other drugs like that.. but you have to add certain things and do labor work to actually get your product. with weed you can just pick it from the wild and roast it or even eat it.. but what if all the research we've done and all the cross breeding and all the chemicals we put in the dirt and the super efficient lights and reflective walls are breaking some sort of code to marijuana, making it a sin to smoke weed. maybe as humans we are unlocking to many doors and are gonna end up somewhere we dont belong.

The point of (western)religion is faith, if smoking weed breaks your personal faith then it is a sin...Nothing more nothing less...Justification s can be made for using any drugs or doing anything because there are no set rules just perceptions of right and wrong...
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smoking marijuana could be a "sin"?
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I wouldn't say its a sin, but I do feel bad for smoking occasionally.
like, I feel bad for smoking too many days in a row, or on special days or whatever. like I'm doing a disservice.
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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is it like a gluttony thing or like a your doing a disservice to god thing?
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both, I suppose. I don't align myself with any god, or religion in general, but it feels kinda... dirty, I guess. like I should be doing something more productive.
also, I tend to get bombed with responsibilities immediately after I smoke.
it never fails. I'll smoke a bowl, be pleasantly stoned, then go to put the pipe away. then somebody asks me to drive up to walgreens for them or something. its like they know...
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and the problem? Stoned adventures are the best...
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If it is a sin because of the reasons that you stated, couldn't the same be said about any fruit or vegetable, or animal...Corn is a man made plant for fucks sake and the shit is in everything...So, are you sinning now?
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Seriously if it breaks your code, live up to your standard. I feel that its good to keep a clear head even when drinking or smoking alittle. These days as my will has matched my morals, I smoke less, especially when I am getting ready to sit or stretch. And I really drink like one beer a week or less these days. These are my beliefs all I can do it live up to them.
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Is marijuana a sin? Well I assume you mean in the context of Judaism or Christianity. First let's look at the word sin itself.

In the biblical Hebrew, the generic word for sin is het. It means to err, to miss the mark. It does not mean to do evil. The Greek word hamartia (ἁμαρτία) is usually translated as sin in the New Testament. It means also means "to miss the mark" or "to miss the target."

So, if marijuana is causing you to "miss the target" in your religion, than I guess that would make it sinful. Now let's muddy the waters a bit, shall we?

Nowhere in the bible is the word "hemp" used. Recently a lot of folks have claimed that the King James mistranslates the word "calamus" and that it should read "cannabis." Bullshit. There is a Hebrew word for hemp "kineboisin," yet it appears nowhere in the Bible. It makes no sense therefore to use scripture to either defend or attack cannabis usage. You might as well use scripture to justify or condemn space travel.

As far as Christianity in general is concerned, Paul wrote, "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify." (1 Corinthians 10:23). So we're back to the "if it causes you to miss the target" thing.

If you're Catholic it's a bit more black and white. Pope John Paul II had frequently campaigned against marijuana decriminalization, saying there are no distinctions between "hard" and "soft" drugs and that using marijuana is equivalent to using heroin. In January 1997, a Pope-approved statement issued by the Pontifical Council for the Family claimed that legalizing drugs would be akin to legalizing murder, and also called for the banning of tobacco. Why not ban alcohol? Oh yeah, Christ drank it, so it's good.

Most religious groups are social clubs that are hungry for power. They justify their control over people by claiming that they are doing them good. And although they would never admit it, most of their "ancient" rules are made up as they go along. Nowhere in the bible is cannabis condemned, yet it was a common enough plant at the time, and its psychoactive properties were well known to the ancients.

Religions are continuously extrapolating new rules from the parts of scripture that they like, while at the same time ignoring the parts that might undermine the new rule. It's interesting reading the scriptural gymnastics they perform to condemn or support cannabis.

If you're a free thinker you might come to a different conclusion. My question as to whether something is sinful or not is: Will this thing harm anyone or not? or, Will it make me a better person or not?

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"to miss the mark" makes a lot of sense...

but herb has helped me hit the mark. it has really given me clarity in times... but then it hasn't at others. i definitely see it as hedonistic, but thats cause it's been abused. like many good things.

"god gave us wine. the devil gave us the drunk."

i like that saying, but fuck wine.
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I think that how you treat it could be considered a sin, but not the herb itself.



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Thumbs up Marijuana= sin...Hmmmm..

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both, I suppose. I don't align myself with any god, or religion in general, but it feels kinda... dirty, I guess. like I should be doing something more productive.
also, I tend to get bombed with responsibilities immediately after I smoke.
it never fails. I'll smoke a bowl, be pleasantly stoned, then go to put the pipe away. then somebody asks me to drive up to walgreens for them or something. its like they know...
That's just a by-product of government lies. When you grow up hearing nothing but bad things about weed, naturally you are going to have negative thoughts about using it/using it too much/etc...even if you know better.

I like to call it the pot smokers eternal, internal struggle. Have faith, there's no sin going on here.
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You can grow pot naturally in the natural ground, pluck it, and consume it for its effects. Thats natural.

Theres nothing natural about cocaine or heroine which have been through multiple processes to make (chewing on the coke plant leaves tho- thats cool, and some runners in other countries do it)
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