Crazy stuff about the 'Hare Krishnas'! - Page 4

verklingen · 06-12-2009, 02:35 PM

i'm saying i believe they make these decisions before becoming babies

kamikazi89 · 06-12-2009, 02:44 PM

that's just nuts, without food and water a baby will die..regardless of what you believe

verklingen · 06-12-2009, 02:49 PM

i never said i believe a baby will not die without food and water

kamikazi89 · 06-12-2009, 02:53 PM

so we argee then: nutrition is the key to a long and happy life

and of course the good old H2O

Grieves · 06-12-2009, 02:55 PM

nutrition is key to sustaining life not key to a "long and happy" life, food and water does not equate to happiness..

kamikazi89 · 06-12-2009, 02:56 PM

exactly, life would be impossible without them: quality matters

**~~Scion~~** · 06-22-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

lots of ignorance up in here. . .

the hare krishnas are part of a movement conceived in the early 60's by an indian fellow named srila prabhupada. his intention was to bring krishna consciousness to the world; specifically the west. he preached loving devotion to a hindu expression of the devine, creative spirit -- lord sri krishna -- through his international society for krishna consciousness, or iskcon, which he founded in 1966 at new york city. aside from insisting upon the adoption of some traditional indian practices, iskcon, lead by prabhupada, promoted an all-around affection for life by making the expression of kindness, love, and appreciation toward all beings a main element in his enunciation of bhakti (devotional service to the divine, creative spirit). bhakti yoga is what the hare krishnas call their practice.

so that's what they're about. it's true that after prabhupada died in the seventies there was a general tumult from the lack of leadership, and since then there could be sects who have deviated much. but to think that hare krishnas as a whole are somehow corrupted and serve only to pacify weak minds or to usher vile acts is a lot like saying christians are despicable and evil because some of them liked to burn witches, or likewise all mormons because some of them like to have a collection of underage wives.

i just think we've had enough of the divisive rhetoric regarding the religions of our planet, and if you REALLY think there's a secretive group such as the illuminati who exerts control over the world, maybe getting caught up in it is part of their plan. cuz, well, you know. . . muslims are misogynistic terrorists, christians are bigots, jews are corrupt misers, and hindus are depraved masochists. get it? i don't. i don't see the purpose in following any of that; in fact i only see the potentials down that path for a world i'd rather not live in. so i choose to look at what's good and what brings us together: what tempers our good will and stirs our hopes. i believe there's much more to be gained in this way.

Hmmm. From what Ive seen. This is what they say in the books. NO I dont thik its really the truth. Lots of people from any religion are nice and maybe even naive about the true nature of the inner layers of these institutions. What's at the core of most organized religions? An international secret society into some old practices that include ritual sacrifices and abuse of all kinds.

HaHa, you come in here talking all high about how there is sooo much ignorance in here, but you seem a bit naive and ignorant, friend, with all respect. Prabhupadha is part of the Hindu institution responsible for mass racism, genocide, animal and human sacrifice, massive abuse and degradation of women and children, and controlled, at the top, by the descendants of the European barbarian invaders into India-known as the Aryan invasion.

You have to understand that you cant believe organized religion literally any more than you can believe politicians and the news media to learn about the world because religions are just the old form of politics and propaganda used by ancient empires befor modern forms began to dominate more-such as forced/mandatory education and TV.

I read lots of Prabhupads stuff back in the day, and I have to believe he had some sincerity and decent scholarship behind his writings. But to the extent that he was a priest of a religion of slaves to barbarian rulers, he was no more than a stooge or a pawn used by those who sent him over here in a move by an international network of a secret society. Because thats all priests of any kind are of any religion. They are slaves to a highly evil ruling class putting on a propaganda campaign of false morality, then doing the most perverted and evil things in secret such as all kinds of satanism, abuse, molesting kids, etc. In the old days the priests were eunuchs with their penis or balls cut off and the emorors right hand man/slave. Linked to the violence of armies wars invasion conquest theft rape prostitutions harems etc of the ruling class....how can you look to these stooges for spiritual guidance-haha what a joke.

And oh, so much loving kindness, the krishnas main book, which they call the gita- advocates war and the caste system and all kinds of fucked up treatment of women and human beings in general per the 'aryan' traditions. and this is just the shit they tell you openly, not all the secretive stuff going on.

Sorry bro, you need to educate yourself on more than religious propaganda before you go spouting off like you know everything, cuz it seems like you dont know whos really yanking your chain. Haha. Yea youre paying rent and living in suburbs while theyre living in ranches and estates. Youre repeating their propaganda while they think of your life as worth less than cattle.

**~~Scion~~** · 06-22-2009, 08:03 AM

Im goin to post a new thread this thread reminds me about-if I can find the vid. check it out. guess Ill post in spiritual smoke.

verklingen · 06-23-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scion

Hmmm. From what Ive seen. This is what they say in the books. NO I dont thik its really the truth. Lots of people from any religion are nice and maybe even naive about the true nature of the inner layers of these institutions. What's at the core of most organized religions? An international secret society into some old practices that include ritual sacrifices and abuse of all kinds.

HaHa, you come in here talking all high about how there is sooo much ignorance in here, but you seem a bit naive and ignorant, friend, with all respect. Prabhupadha is part of the Hindu institution responsible for mass racism, genocide, animal and human sacrifice, massive abuse and degradation of women and children, and controlled, at the top, by the descendants of the European barbarian invaders into India-known as the Aryan invasion.

ohhhh, so prabhupada's mission was to share genocide and carnal sacrifice with the world. i wish i'd have known sooner!

and the aryan invasion is a legend akin to neo-nazi holocaust denial:

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Originally Posted by Scion

You have to understand that you cant believe organized religion literally any more than you can believe politicians and the news media to learn about the world because religions are just the old form of politics and propaganda used by ancient empires befor modern forms began to dominate more-such as forced/mandatory education and TV.

thanks i'll add this bit to my enlightenment checklist

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Originally Posted by Scion

I read lots of Prabhupads stuff back in the day, and I have to believe he had some sincerity and decent scholarship behind his writings. But to the extent that he was a priest of a religion of slaves to barbarian rulers, he was no more than a stooge or a pawn used by those who sent him over here in a move by an international network of a secret society. Because thats all priests of any kind are of any religion. They are slaves to a highly evil ruling class putting on a propaganda campaign of false morality, then doing the most perverted and evil things in secret such as all kinds of satanism, abuse, molesting kids, etc.

of course; it's unthinkable for anyone connected to a religious institution in any way to do good for the world!

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Originally Posted by Scion

In the old days the priests were eunuchs with their penis or balls cut off and the emorors right hand man/slave. Linked to the violence of armies wars invasion conquest theft rape prostitutions harems etc of the ruling class....how can you look to these stooges for spiritual guidance-haha what a joke.

and in china, enuchs used their proximity to the throne to dominate politics and practically enslave the royal family. what's your point? humans evolve, society evolves, even religion is evolving. people's staunch believe that the past necessarily indicates the present and future is exactly what holds us back from that process.

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Originally Posted by Scion

And oh, so much loving kindness, the krishnas main book, which they call the gita- advocates war and the caste system and all kinds of fucked up treatment of women and human beings in general per the 'aryan' traditions. and this is just the shit they tell you openly, not all the secretive stuff going on.

yeah and the bible advocates killing witches and boiling goats in milk which is not their mothers. face value is all religious texts have to offer. where's another baby to throw out?!?

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Originally Posted by Scion

Sorry bro, you need to educate yourself on more than religious propaganda before you go spouting off like you know everything, cuz it seems like you dont know whos really yanking your chain. Haha. Yea youre paying rent and living in suburbs while theyre living in ranches and estates. Youre repeating their propaganda while they think of your life as worth less than cattle.

i don't repeat anyone's propaganda, my only goal is clarity with the aim of enticing people to peer over the rim of their thought-boxes and consider things in new ways. you're obviously stuck on religion being filled with all sorts of wickedness and that's cool, just understand that it's only one way of looking at things which is due to a very specific belief/expectation: namely that all religions are evil to their rotten core. thus you seek evidence for this and this only, and the results are as plentiful as your imagination and passion are strong. there's nothing wrong with that really, it just becomes a problem for discussions when you use it to paint broad generalizations about huge swaths of human society. and if that's not an exercise in ignorance i'm not sure what is.

crookedhatinator45 · 06-23-2009, 10:28 AM

my oma says a lot of the older krishnas molest the youths and stuffs

Grieves · 06-23-2009, 11:21 AM

so do most older men in places of power, respect within the religious sect...

kamikazi89 · 06-27-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by herbinator45

my oma says a lot of the older krishnas molest the youths and stuffs

oma knows the deal

**~~Scion~~** · 06-28-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by verklingen

ohhhh, so prabhupada's mission was to share genocide and carnal sacrifice with the world. i wish i'd have known sooner!

and the aryan invasion is a legend akin to neo-nazi holocaust denial:

thanks i'll add this bit to my enlightenment checklist

of course; it's unthinkable for anyone connected to a religious institution in any way to do good for the world!

and in china, enuchs used their proximity to the throne to dominate politics and practically enslave the royal family. what's your point? humans evolve, society evolves, even religion is evolving. people's staunch believe that the past necessarily indicates the present and future is exactly what holds us back from that process.

yeah and the bible advocates killing witches and boiling goats in milk which is not their mothers. face value is all religious texts have to offer. where's another baby to throw out?!?

i don't repeat anyone's propaganda, my only goal is clarity with the aim of enticing people to peer over the rim of their thought-boxes and consider things in new ways. you're obviously stuck on religion being filled with all sorts of wickedness and that's cool, just understand that it's only one way of looking at things which is due to a very specific belief/expectation: namely that all religions are evil to their rotten core. thus you seek evidence for this and this only, and the results are as plentiful as your imagination and passion are strong. there's nothing wrong with that really, it just becomes a problem for discussions when you use it to paint broad generalizations about huge swaths of human society. and if that's not an exercise in ignorance i'm not sure what is.

Dude, you blather too much out of your excessively proliferated brain without conveying real insight or information. Saying the aryan invasion is myth categorizes you as challenged. You speak far too much about things you know too little of. You need more education and information, and perhaps more intelligence to properly understand and conclude from such. You must be young.

Yes all organized religion is chalked with evil, secrecy, and deception at the core. There is no god like they say in the books and churches. Kings and Emperors made that up. What there really is one must find for oneself. Religion is evil masquerading as good. And 99% of it has common roots from one lineage of conquering barbarians. Religion pretends to be human spirituality, which it is not it is the opposite. If you want you can pick out the stolen bits of ancient spirituality that religion has incorporated with a pair of sterilized tongs and rubber gloves.

kamikazi89 · 06-28-2009, 06:58 AM

the only thing i know about this group is what i seen in an airport movie..and i don't think they'r allowed in them anymore..

and talk about blathering, it ain't verk

**~~Scion~~** · 06-28-2009, 06:46 PM

Trust me it is a comprehension deficit.

Interesting to see the different types that come on here. Also interesting to try to pick out which are cops, insiders, or the very contingent doing the shady dark stuff that this thread talks about. Giving the official propaganda lines certainly makes one suspect.

so just remember people, they are among us. as soon as you hear them trying to call information- conspiracy theories-theres a good chance of who youre dealing with. trying to lie as is their speciality. Because yes there is really a conspiracy that includes oppressing the people in every way possible, and giving you misinformation to keep you half-blind to the nature of it all.

Flamingnun · 06-29-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scion

Interesting to see the different types that come on here. Also interesting to try to pick out which are cops, insiders, or the very contingent doing the shady dark stuff that this thread talks about. Giving the official propaganda lines certainly makes one suspect.

Yeah cops, and the illuminati frequently come on here and talk about Hare Krishnas, duh.

**~~Scion~~** · 06-29-2009, 07:42 PM

ah theres one now

kamikazi89 · 07-06-2009, 09:54 AM

you're not very convincing

Kompressor · 07-06-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Scion

ah theres one now

Secretly wishes he was one of us.

**SageTree** · 07-06-2009, 05:09 PM

:d

06-12-2009, 02:35 PM	#61 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	i'm saying i believe they make these decisions before becoming babies __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	i never said i believe a baby will not die without food and water __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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Grieves The Worst Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Interstate 8 Posts: 12,081 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2,560 Thanked 3,111 Times in 1,708 Posts	nutrition is key to sustaining life not key to a "long and happy" life, food and water does not equate to happiness.. __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

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Grieves The Worst Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Interstate 8 Posts: 12,081 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2,560 Thanked 3,111 Times in 1,708 Posts	so do most older men in places of power, respect within the religious sect... __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

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~~Scion~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Trust me it is a comprehension deficit. Interesting to see the different types that come on here. Also interesting to try to pick out which are cops, insiders, or the very contingent doing the shady dark stuff that this thread talks about. Giving the official propaganda lines certainly makes one suspect. so just remember people, they are among us. as soon as you hear them trying to call information- conspiracy theories-theres a good chance of who youre dealing with. trying to lie as is their speciality. Because yes there is really a conspiracy that includes oppressing the people in every way possible, and giving you misinformation to keep you half-blind to the nature of it all. Last edited by Scion; 06-28-2009 at 08:34 PM.

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~~Scion~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Im goin to post a new thread this thread reminds me about-if I can find the vid. check it out. guess Ill post in spiritual smoke.

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~~Scion~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	ah theres one now

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