JainVeganBuddha

Has anyone else had some weird experiences with these groups? Well I have known many people in and around these groups for around 10 years or so. Im into meditation, eastern culture, enlightenment studies and the like, so at one time I was very interested in the groups. I really tried to like these guys BUT...

THE VIBES were definitely off, way off, the deeper I got and the more I learned and saw. Most of us have heard about the scandals that were all over the news in the 80’s with the young children being raped, abused, molested, etc. and other atrocities within their communities and farms—very reminiscent of the catholic organized religion, but worse--but after doing a lot of research and talking to a lot of people, what I learned about these people absolutely blew my mind. What was on the news is just the tip of the iceberg!

To make a long story short, ere is the basic info I have gathered. Do the research yourself if you care to:

1) This organized religion is an illuminati front group with close ties to the same elite group based in London, spread throughout the world, who sport triangles and compasses. The supposed Indian founder was their knowing or unknowing stooge, who was reportedly eventually killed by those who bankrolled the corporate entity behind their community.

2) This group was mobilized as a direct attack on the hippies and revolutionaries of the late 60's and 70's. Their job was to infiltrate, drug, do dirty tricks on, and basically take down these young people who were breaking away from industrial society and protesting wars and militarism.

3) Drugs in the food? Yep, I personally witnessed some strange goings on in the kitchens. Supposed spices and 'preservatives' added in the form of white powders. One compound had the distinct odor of potassium nitrate a.k.a. salt-peter. This compound is supposedly used on military, cops, inmates, boarding school students, and other institutionalized people. It is supposed to kill sexual desire, but its not so well known quality is to make the mind highly impressionable and susceptible to mind control techniques. This group used these cultish mind-control formulas in perfect form from sleep-deprivation, hypnosis (chanting), group dynamics/pressure, and extensive psychological manipulation. They also deal a whopping amount of drugs-large scale- and are basically immune from legal actions. If there are better designed drugs for mind control-which I believe there are-they are probably using them too.

4) Racist? yes, very much so. The British-Anglo-Aryan roots of the leadership behind this group, and the illuminati in general are extremely racist and hateful. Insofar as they pretend to be nice or tolerant or integrated, it is only a false show, because such people are their very targets. You know about catching more flies with honey??... This is the same approach taken by the Aryan invaders into India who set up highly racist social classes based on 'varna' or 'color'. They used a front of the indigenous Indians' culture to create false organized religions in India that supported these classes and many other atrocities such as militarism, war, misogyny, child abuse, slavery...all under a false mask to deceive.

5) Oh damn! It goes much deeper. But these things are not exclusive to only the Krishnas. This is the case for almost every organized religion you will find in the USA and Europe---at the highest levels of their hierarchies. Look at the head of the snake and you will find the same people. They all look spookily alike, come from the same evil and ghoulish bloodlines, and take part in the same practices. What practices? Well, they have been going on since ancient times. See the people who originally settled in Great Britain after 'conquering' there were this race of highly evil pirates who we know as vikings and closely related clans. The traditional practices of their elite ruling classes-in their own caste system!- include not only excessive alcoholistic drinking, the use of strong drugs, animal sacrifice, human sacrifice, but also-and very importantly-the practice of the dark arts. Central in these practices are, in fact, the sacrifices and blood-drinking! Yes, it sounds crazy, but do the research, these practices have been going on since ancient times among the elite and are supposed to bring some kind of benefits like extended lifespan, and bring psychic and other mystical ‘powers’. And while there are other ways of developing some of these benefits through other esoteric methods-meditation etc-this way is the dark path to such.

6) Non-Vegetarian? Is blood vegetarian? How about baby blood? True they may not eat meat! This is a mask, a front, and a lie. Sure they keep an outer circle of 'clean' members who dont know anything but what the books tell them, and may not suspect the truth. This is how all the different illuminati secret society branches work. When there is strong evil like this present they find it necessary to wear a mask. They hide behind this mask of nonviolence and religiosity, just like catholic priests, and other organized religious leaders who do these evil and dark things in secret. Its a lie and a facade to hide the ugly horrifying truth. Have a look at them and their eyes if you come in contact. Check them out. Vampires in a nest. There are some truly ghoulish individuals hanging out in those circles, and especially at the top. Check the blue bloodlines in all the leadership. See if you can recognize which ones are clean and which vamps!

I always really wanted to like this group and learned alot about the culture, but a unique mixture of experience, history, and research has tied these things together for me. a dark elite, which descends from these bloodlines rules over much of the planet. They control the organized religions, world and central banks, militaries, cops, media, and most strategic positions for control. T revolutionary activities of the 70's brought them out of hiding and into this purposeful deception. Most all organized religions have these dark roots--vampirism, communion, resurrection, blood of christ, sacrifices, ritual abuse, caste systems, slavery, war--but this is just one interesting example with which I have become familiar.

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verklingen

there are just some fags who have come to lead various sects. once prabhupada died it basically went to shit. his original goal was to spread krishna consciousness, and there are those who saw an opportunity to take advantage. maybe it was the illuminati, who knows. i just think it was sucky people, the same sucky people who set up cults like that mormon one here in texas that was in the news a while ago.

btw man i was just thinking of you this morning before work, fuckin weird you showed up and posted. guess that means a welcome back of sorts.

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SageTree

I was checking your profile out too man, to see the last time you were here. But Verk and I am always jiving on a wave length. Thanks for sharing thoughts.

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verklingen

there was a leader in houston who had devotees clean his feet then kiss and lick them. deranged. . . yes. evil? maybe. but illuminati? ehhhhhhhh

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crookedhatinator45

i heard the krishnas like little kids too

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JainVeganBuddha

these are the really rich guys from behind the scenes coming out to do dirty work. they are into some weird stuff, and have a real weird way of doing things. deception...

apparently the social happenings of the 60's and 70's posed a real threat that had to be handled covertly, and somewhat personally.

beyond just speculation, but from a lot of personal contacts and experience, these arent your average joes. there are some seriously rich guys with big money names at the top of the whole pyramyd.

Flamingnun

lol @ krishna's being rich.

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seattle420lover

I have good friends who are Hare Krishna devotees-and they are illuminated people
I've heard alot about them from other people.
All I have ever had are good times with them. good food too!
when I was sick they gave me medicine and comfort I must be imune to any salt peter

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cantSEEme

i thought hare krishnas are supposed to live simply without the need or wants of gaining monetary wealth?

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The Rev

My only run ins with the HKs were in boston. In one case, a guy tried to offer me a free Bhagavad Gita. In the other, a huge group of them gathered in Harvard Square, and chanted and played drums.

They seemed pretty cool to me. (Never was there a mention of Xenu or any of that)



The Rev

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JainVeganBuddha

yeah theres a clean outer circle and then theres the inner

the inner being the ones who bone little kids, like the satanic ritual abuse you hear about in masonry and hare krishna court cases... and use their 'illuminated' philosophy to justify large scale animal sacrifices and the human ones they dont speak about

JainVeganBuddha

theyre so poor they have multi million dollar properties and temples displaying lavish wealth reminiscent of the english royal palaces in almost every major city in the world. true tho some are more shabby than others

you have to look just a little beneath the surface
the propaganda theatre they display is not the truth of it
this is the catching flies with honey bit they used deceptively on the hippies all the while distributing massiva amounts of hard drugs and handing out plates of tainted food. all that chanting and shit is classic mind control formulae, all textbook cult techniques to break down your mind and achieve hierarchical subjugation.

JainVeganBuddha

bhagavad gita=racist caste system and war and animal/human sacrifice justification in the name of their barbarian fake aryan god wrapped in flowery words and bullshit logic and blood seeping out from between the pages

check it out for yourself tho dont take my word

they imposed this vedic snowjob on what was left of india after their aryan invasion genocide

seattle420lover

Does anyone see a need for this thread continuing?
I don't. Vote it closed!

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Grieves

Prove it

Prove it

Prove it



You say a lot of words, but yet you offer no tangible proof....

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SageTree

Thanks Grieves. I agree.

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SageTree

I see the 'caste system' as laid for in the 'Laws of Manu' and which are talked about in the Gita as a socialist system, ideally speaking. One where everyone's job matters to the other and there is a symbiotic realationship between them all.

As for the animal/human sacrifice part...man I just don't see that in there....metaphorica lly even.

Where you raised with these ideas or where did you 'realize' all of this, what spawned your thoughts?

I would true like to hear you pov laid out in a more linier manner.

Metta,
Sage

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Flamingnun

Also, Potassium Nitrate is completely odourless. And is commonly used in most larger kitchens, from personal experience, as a meat preservative. You would know if your food was tainted with it, it may be odourless, but it is definitely not tasteless.

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JainVeganBuddha

like i said. if you research these things for yourself you will understand.

you cannot understand a religion simply by studying their given texts anymore than you can understand propaganda by listening to it over and over again. the texts of 99.9% of all organized religions are a mindjob coming from ancient empires and professional deceivers which are trained specifically in manipulation and human psychology tactics. you have to study these institutions objectively, as a scholar with a broad scope of knowledge, historically, and see what it is they really do...if you can see behind their secrecy, that is.

oh, and its not socialist, it is extremely hierarchical (murderously so) ...racist...oppressi ve...barbarian to say it in short.

what we have to understand is that there is a dark side of human spirituality. people do these practices for power wealth, greed, and domination. they are deceptive, barbaric, and violent in every way, and they hide behind a false shell of goodness, 'official authority', and said morality. False texts, false religions, false authority. violence, corruption, and barbaric acts seeping out from around the edges at every moment. So dont be fooled by them.

Just like the elite rulers behind the catholics, christians, jews, muslims, hindus, buddhists. They are all different-but-same "camps" as they called them of a large ancient empire established by these dark lords-a.k.a. ruling class vikings who took to conquering and oppressing on a great scale in ancient times. Youll find their descendants at the center of all modern kingdoms, governments, secret societies, and organized religions. the virtues and different aspects of real human spirituality were stolen or misused by these conquerors to bait the hook of their false imposed organized religions, according to the native inhabitants' practices.... which as you know, were often imposed at the point of a sword gun etc.

finally, the bhagavad-gita is a small part of a larger collection of historical literature, which, if you study it, you will find, contains all types of formulae and examples of the worst kinds of mental impurities, violence, slavery, animal and human sacrifice. so just as in the other religions, you find the so called priests at the center of it, licenced by god to conduct these sacrifices, and always curiously entitled to the blood of such, if not a portion of the flesh as well.

study the ruling classes of the Earth, their secret societies, institutions, history, family heritages, and dark practices. you can see it all for yourself if you look hard enough, but there is a reason they keep it all so secret, and they will prefer you naive.

SageTree

I would like to add that I'm not blowing steam out my ass here. I am familiar, imo, with what we are talking about. Specifically if we are talking about the Hares, I am willing to say I am not overtly familiar with them, but I am not starting from scratch here on when these texts came into existance, as well as what is in them. I fail to see what you are finding in them.

That is okay with me. Experience dictates opinion.

So like, what you are saying is that you a Jain and I should believe you despite what you said concerning ALL religons?

How do I know you aren't with them???

Thanks for the opinion. I enjoy hearing others speak freely.

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