farmergiles

No I don`t believe in God.

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Ego Tripping

What the hell is a gigawatt?

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dubtrice

a lot of watts

xxoozero

You cannot possibly not understand how to use Google and think you are going to ever figure out how the universe was created.

gigawatt - definition of gigawatt by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

gig·a·watt (jg-wt, gg-)
n. Abbr. GW
One billion (109) watts.

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Canuck Wisdom

Yes there is God.

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JcP

While the answer might elude us, the process of trying to put the pieces together and find the truth to our higher purpose (or if there even is one), is what makes the weed in my bag and the money in my pocket mean something to me. If you're more comfortable with thinking this is it, that's fine, but for me the pursuit of understanding of the bigger questions is what makes this life worth living (although it also is extremely frustrating). And I hope that one day I will find the answers if there are some to find.
I do believe you're the one who has chosen to start a debate about God. Once again you contradict yourself in the course of your post. If you don't wish to debate God, why did you feel the need to express your opinion(s) about God and then ask for others opinions as well? Why did you not start a thread about your interest in planet formation. Methinks thou dost protest too much.
I agree we need to learn to walk before we swim marathons...although that analogy is a bit silly as swimming and walking are two different actions so technically we COULD learn to swim marathons before we learn to walk, but I digress...
While thinking of ultimate questions is hopping to the "endgame" I would suggest to you it's like a book. When you're reading Harry Potter, do you only talk about what you know? Or do you also find value in discussing where you hope the story will go, how it will end, what the character's real motivations are, and why things are happening the way they are?
Where do you think we came from?

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Let's lay down our weapons
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xxoozero

vaginas

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Sugar420

so then why does oozero bother to come back here and post if he doesnt really want to discuss anything?
there is nothing new or even intellectually honest about coming here and saying "spirituality is crap" and "religion is a scourge" and "debating it is useless" since countless morans have already made these statements over and over without trying (or being able to) explain why they think theyre right.

so either there is discussion here or there isnt. if not, then wtf? because nobody can disprove the fact that athiesm is a scam.

verklingen

discussion about god is a lot like god, actually

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zerodown

This is why life is beautiful, people will always differ about everything, no matter what, there will always be people in favor and people against it, and the more laws we want to make, the more corrupt the system will be and the more fighting there will be.

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

Ego Tripping

Ugh, you suck at this.

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xxoozero

First of all, yes, there is a discussion here, nearly 2 pages of it in case you forgot how to read.

Secondly, your last statement is pretty bold. Since no one has proven that atheism is a scam in the first place, why would anyone have to prove otherwise?

I said debating the origins of the universe was pointless, seeing as how even if any of us were told we wouldnt have the brain cells to wrap around the idea. Frickin Ego trippin up there doesn't even know how to use Google. Whether there is a god or not is different. It is a different subject. Entirely different.

BTW, it's moron, not moran.

If you really need me to prove in a post on a discussion board why religion is a scourge, then you haven't been paying attention to history. I'm not going to get sucked in to going over 5,000 years of history to prove the obvious. Religion has been bad for humans. That statement has historical accuracy.

Atheism isn't a scam, it is a lack of belief. Christianity is a scam. Scientology is a scam. Islam and judeism are dirty scams that are getting people killed as we speak. Why? Because they present an idea and try to force people into following it. Atheists present no idea and laugh at the rest of you for fighting over such things. Then, when we present our logic into the equation, people call us names and demand we prove our stance and defend our heathen bastard lives!

In short, if you want to try to 'prove' that atheism is a scam, go right ahead. But don't get butthurt when it doesn't work out the way you wanted it to.

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xxoozero

Ok, you got me, this point I will concede to.

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Roach

Which god ?...there are so many fairy tales to choose from.

No, there is no such entity as a god,

there are no devils or demons or angels or miracles, heaven or hell.

There are some really backwards/screwed up people in the world...And a few brilliant ones.

But I don't put a whole lot of faith in humans either.

I believe in my ability to survive in a world, that has already been totally fucked up by religious fanatics, based on my own limitations/abilities alone.

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verklingen

this phenomenon infects pretty much all aspects of society, not just religion. atheism is not immune. neither is science for that matter.

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cantSEEme

technically, no one can prove it one way or the other. everyone is really "guessing" when it comes to god, religion, and spirituality.



edit: err, what verk said 20 mins ago. im slow.

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wnfakind

My belief is that we are all god, we create our own reality and world around us.

Ego Tripping

Meh, you're just a retard with nothing to say.

It seems that you started a thread "discussion" just for the sake of reading your own bs and being completely close minded from the start. You never intended to discuss anything, just argue with the same tired points that all ignorant materialists argue with. You're the atheistic equivalent of a born-again Christian, caught up in your own dogma and self-imposed mental limitations. You barely address anybody's posts and your gigawatt of an error above proves you are barely reading people's responses, you're just talking out of your ass. You have nothing new to offer that the forum hasn't seen before.

What I'm trying to say is, you're an epic fail.

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JcP

and this is why I think you're being intentionally simplistic and claiming affiliation to "atheism" out of ignorance, rather than an actual end result to asing questions.

Where do vaginas come from? Why are there vaginas? Where did life come from that evolved into vaginas? How did life begin in a universe that (at least at the moment) is completely DEVOID of life outside of this one small insignificant planet?

Why is there ANYTHING, life or no life, when NOTHING is the logical assumption, assuming there is no creative force or infinite "thing" ?

if you want to be snide and reply with "lolcats" and "vaginas" that's fine and I'll stop trying to actually engage you in debate. But I am interested in hearing your justification for your opinions

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Just look out around us, people fightin their wars...
They think they'll be happy when they've settled their scores...
Let's lay down our weapons
and hold us apart
be still for just a minute
try to open our hearts
MORE LOVE.

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Originally Posted by The Rev It's not what you see, it's that you're looking.

JcP

And here is where you fail.

Atheism IS a belief, as there is no evidence supporting or not supporting God one way or another, outside of metaphysical questions which you seem incapable of discussing.

Ergo, to have lack of belief takes belief. IN FACT, the mentality you are showcasing is the EXACT SAME mentality that gives religion such a bad name. People of a given faith (such as your atheism) refuse to see that their BELIEF is BELIEF and not somehow superior to the beliefs of others regarding an ethereal concept that no one is able to answer.

double negatives are fun like that.

So yea. failsauce. And I don't usually like to jump on people when speaking about spirituality, but you have clearly not thought about your opinions much at all...you contradict yourself, you showcase a complete misunderstanding of core issues, you refuse to answer serious questions seriously, and you repeat yourself even after you've been corrected.

/bitchy british accent
You are the weakest link. GOOD BYE.

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Just look out around us, people fightin their wars...
They think they'll be happy when they've settled their scores...
Let's lay down our weapons
and hold us apart
be still for just a minute
try to open our hearts
MORE LOVE.

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Originally Posted by The Rev It's not what you see, it's that you're looking.