is there really a DEVIL? - Page 2

ziplock · 05-31-2009, 01:54 PM

Same answer applies to both God and the Devil: depends on your definition.

The Rev · 05-31-2009, 02:57 PM

"The only devils in the world are those running around in our own hearts - and that is where all our battles should be fought"
-Gandhi-ji

The Rev

wnfakind · 06-01-2009, 04:07 PM

Personally I see the two concept's that we've seen throughout history in stories/religious writings is man trying to decribe themself. The whole devil/god concept is just the personal trait's of what I believe is what someone has seen in thier time with lack of expression/understanding through writing and is only explaning trait's they considered evil or good that they have seen in another. We are the anwser we have looked for but the ego takes over something our enviroment, life experience's culture has made us develope in our mind over time.

verklingen · 06-01-2009, 04:16 PM

whatever your belief you can find it in a mirror

seattle420lover · 06-02-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Grieves

I believe in balance...In that if there is absolute good/absolute faith, then there has to be a counterpoint...I do not believe in beings of absolutes or absolutes in any form so i guess i could say that the manifestation of absolute evil in the form of the being known as the devil does not exist...I do however believe that there are beings capable of action and the judgment of action is up to the perspective of the individual...

I doubt their really is a devil but I think i have met many people in my live who belived they were the devil and for that exact moment I kind of think that they were. I hope they got over it!

seattle420lover · 06-02-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rev

"The only devils in the world are those running around in our own hearts - and that is where all our battles should be fought"
-Gandhi-ji

The Rev

I'd like to have a t-shirt with that on it!

seattle420lover · 06-02-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wnfakind

We are the anwser we have looked for.

can I quote you on that?

seattle420lover · 06-02-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by turmaline

i believe is good and evil light and dark....that shite scares the shite out of me. Dark entities....people seeing black figures and scary evil things...paranormall y.

I constantly surround myself with light after watching those paranormal ghost shows.

it will be allright. I was scared the other night by gunshots

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Roach · 06-02-2009, 04:39 PM

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is there really a DEVIL?

no

Roach · 06-02-2009, 04:42 PM

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i believe is good and evil light and dark....that shite scares the shite out of me. Dark entities....people seeing black figures and scary evil things...paranormall y.

I constantly surround myself with light after watching those paranormal ghost shows.

dark people surround me.

SweetSativa · 06-02-2009, 07:18 PM

I believe that everything that has been created, exists.

What I'm not sure of is.... has everything that exists been created?

SweetSativa · 06-02-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Captdoug713

IMO there is no god or devil. In the end the lights just go off. My body becomes what it was, Earth.

I'm not saying you're wrong or anything but are you saying that before you were alive, your body (or whatever) was Earth? I'm kinda tired... not following.

Captdoug713 · 06-03-2009, 11:28 PM

Everything we are is Earth. Everything. Thats what we come from thats where we go. I'm not wrong. All the atoms that have been still are. Nothing goes away just changes form. Stoned

HesStoned · 06-04-2009, 12:44 AM

iono my own morality and concious judges me before "God", so im a big beliver in Flesh and Bone, but im also into balance, whether it be a God and a Devil or the Good team Vs the Bad, whatev.

i wanna say if i HAD to dedicate myself to religion it would be Buddism, but i only know the basics.

dubtrice · 06-04-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Captdoug713

Everything we are is Earth. Everything. Thats what we come from thats where we go. I'm not wrong. All the atoms that have been still are. Nothing goes away just changes form. Stoned

i never looked at it like that

makes perfect sense

though we may not exactly "be" earth, we certainly evolved from the bacteria that formed here... we're very intelligent dirt... or intelligent everything... wait, atoms, we are atoms, and lots of em.

Grieves · 06-04-2009, 01:58 AM

The universe works on a math equation
That never even ever really ends in the end
Infinity spirals out creation
We're on the tip of its tongue, and it is saying
We ain't sure where you stand
You ain't machines and you ain't land
And the plants and the animals, they are linked
And the plants and the animals eat each other

SweetSativa · 06-04-2009, 05:38 AM

I agree. Energy cannot be created or destroyed in a closed system.

I interpreted your 'earth' to mean... dirt, "ashes to ashes, dust to dust" type stuff.

In every change in state of being, energy is spent... taken from somewhere. Molecules speed or slow and interact with one another. It's easy to imagine how the physical energy of conception occurs between egg and sperm. Beyond that becomes a little bit.... iffier.

I mean, if I paint a picture... I am creating the picture. However, I have created nothing, I have only rearranged the paint to have a different effect. The physical energy that it took to make this happen has to do with the movements of my body and perhaps firing of my neurons (and the change in various states wet to dry.. perhaps some chemical changes that seem a little irrelevant). However, there's something else involved. Inspiration, like music is that 'creative juice' that connects us to something that could be part of or beyond this earth.... all depending upon your system of internal perception and interpretation. What is it that caused the neurons to begin firing? What is it that caused me to DESIRE to paint? Behaviioralists would claim that it was based on reward and punishment. There's something inside music that is beyond the wonderful world of behaviorism and just to the left of physics.

To me, the devil exists like Santa Clause exists. Lots of people give 'him' lots of energy. He is a psychological and perhaps spiritual construct.

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Originally Posted by Captdoug713

Everything we are is Earth. Everything. Thats what we come from thats where we go. I'm not wrong. All the atoms that have been still are. Nothing goes away just changes form. Stoned

verklingen · 06-04-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Captdoug713

Everything we are is Earth. Everything. Thats what we come from thats where we go. I'm not wrong. All the atoms that have been still are. Nothing goes away just changes form. Stoned

not just earth man, this is merely a single stage in the existence of what makes 'you' you. don't forget your cosmic origins. . . every atom in your body was forged in the heart of an ancient sun. it's a legacy to which you and this whole earth, as children of the universe, shall eventually return.

wnfakind · 06-04-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by seattle420lover

can I quote you on that?

Yep

**~~Scion~~** · 06-04-2009, 05:40 PM

Is there a personality behind everything evil? Dont think so.

But there IS a significant underground cult in the world who are 'Satanists', who practice old 'pagan' rites of blood, killing (which make them crazy) and all manner of deception-including founding and hiding behind the facade of organized religions...and many positions of power and 'authority' in the world.

So in a sense, perhaps the devil is something within some of ourselves-minds, spirits, etc-which is nonetheless real, and a real force in our world bringing great evil

05-31-2009, 01:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
ziplock Dreamer of the dreams Join Date: May 2004 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,110 Thanks: 15 Thanked 91 Times in 71 Posts	Same answer applies to both God and the Devil: depends on your definition. __________________ Insanity is the only sane reaction to an insane society.

05-31-2009, 02:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,672 Thanks: 4,716 Thanked 5,057 Times in 2,708 Posts	"The only devils in the world are those running around in our own hearts - and that is where all our battles should be fought" -Gandhi-ji The Rev __________________ "You're seriously flying close to the fag-sun, icarus." -Flamingnun

06-01-2009, 04:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	whatever your belief you can find it in a mirror __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

06-02-2009, 07:18 PM	#31 (permalink)
SweetSativa Lucid Daydreamer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,930 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 47 Posts	I believe that everything that has been created, exists. What I'm not sure of is.... has everything that exists been created? __________________ "Why is it that when people talk to God, we call it praying but when God talks to people, we call it crazy?"- Touched by an Angel http://www.youtube.com/user/immelody.../0/DDRj93dQ0O0

06-03-2009, 11:28 PM	#33 (permalink)
Captdoug713 Thats my fucknjobasshole! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North America Posts: 1,258 Thanks: 128 Thanked 75 Times in 51 Posts	Everything we are is Earth. Everything. Thats what we come from thats where we go. I'm not wrong. All the atoms that have been still are. Nothing goes away just changes form. Stoned __________________ Don't step on the grass, Sam "Freedom in general may be defined as the absence of obstacles to the realization of desires." Morality is doing whats right no matter what your told. Faith is is doing what your told do matter if its right or wrong. : Last edited by Captdoug713; 06-03-2009 at 11:32 PM.

06-01-2009, 04:07 PM	#23 (permalink)
wnfakind YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Personally I see the two concept's that we've seen throughout history in stories/religious writings is man trying to decribe themself. The whole devil/god concept is just the personal trait's of what I believe is what someone has seen in thier time with lack of expression/understanding through writing and is only explaning trait's they considered evil or good that they have seen in another. We are the anwser we have looked for but the ego takes over something our enviroment, life experience's culture has made us develope in our mind over time.

06-04-2009, 12:44 AM	#34 (permalink)
HesStoned Back Vengence Style Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Upstate York Posts: 814 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	iono my own morality and concious judges me before "God", so im a big beliver in Flesh and Bone, but im also into balance, whether it be a God and a Devil or the Good team Vs the Bad, whatev. i wanna say if i HAD to dedicate myself to religion it would be Buddism, but i only know the basics. __________________ The Metalocalypse Has Begun....

06-04-2009, 01:58 AM	#36 (permalink)
Grieves Biblioburro... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Terra Sancta Posts: 11,588 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,903 Thanked 2,559 Times in 1,424 Posts	The universe works on a math equation That never even ever really ends in the end Infinity spirals out creation We're on the tip of its tongue, and it is saying We ain't sure where you stand You ain't machines and you ain't land And the plants and the animals, they are linked And the plants and the animals eat each other __________________ "And no matter what they said dollar is not your friend and it's the feelings that are hard to know are the feelings that all come slow No matter what they said dollar is not your friend and these feelings that so hard to know are the feelings that wont let go No don't let go, till you find a home World Unite and I'll love you forever"

06-04-2009, 05:40 PM	#40 (permalink)
~~Scion~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Is there a personality behind everything evil? Dont think so. But there IS a significant underground cult in the world who are 'Satanists', who practice old 'pagan' rites of blood, killing (which make them crazy) and all manner of deception-including founding and hiding behind the facade of organized religions...and many positions of power and 'authority' in the world. So in a sense, perhaps the devil is something within some of ourselves-minds, spirits, etc-which is nonetheless real, and a real force in our world bringing great evil

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