kamikazi89

ok, so all the evils of the world can squarely be blamed on the white man..that's the impression i'm a getting

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SageTree

^duh

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Center

Lurkers in your expansion!!! 1337

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"As an organizer I start where the world is, as it is, not as I would like it to be. That we accept the world as it is does not in any sense weaken our desire to change it into what we believe it should be — it is necessary to begin where the world is if we are going to change it to what we think it should be." - Saul Alinsky

verklingen

broad range of knowledge. . . this is sounding a lot like an organizing principle behind your beliefs. all the highest spiritual cultures are dogmatic, in fact you might say dogma has been hardwired into human social systems since the beginning. and how do you determine the "highest" spiritual culture, anyhow? every culture throughout the whole world has thought it's the "highest." sorry man i don't follow this reasoning. it's too particular and exclusive for my tastes.

what constitutes harm? i shy away from the concept because it opens up a can of worms. it could be said that the very basis of every being's biology is to cause "harm" to another being in order to continue its own metabolic processes. even those beings which photosynthesize or otherwise produce their own sustenance internally still must harm other beings in the fight to survive. with "harm" being such a mainstay of existence in this realm, i don't see the value in using it to determine behavior.

this is why i keep saying karma misses the mark. it yields a perception which is misaligned -- irreconcilably imo -- with experiential reality. your karma stacks the deck against you. like catholics who say homosexuality is "ok" but homosexual acts are not, a sense of karma tells you that you're alright with your body fighting off a cold before you even have to sneeze but fumigating your house to get rid of nasty bugs is an atrocity. and if it's not saying that i smell a shallow attempt to have one's cake and eat it too.

instead, i think we could do well to recognize how very deeply intertwined all elements of our lives are with the lives and work of other beings. this includes where we get our food from, plant or animal, for we take as much from wheat as we do from a sheep. i therefor judge not the act of taking, which is necessary, but rather how we treat or execute that taking: whether it is with appreciation or neglect. and that's the crux of the issue to me. the more we live in a state of appreciation, the less we allow ourselves to be affected karmically. i think we can enter that state so absolutely that our karma is rendered null and void. and in a way, you might even say that's the purpose of karma. . . teaching/reminding us to appreciate

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Personally I think that Karma is just sort of like a reminder to reflect upon what the consequences of your actions might be. Sort of like the "last line of defense" against adharma.

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Scion

Thanks for the kind words.

Kamakazi. The vamps hide among the light skinned.

VERK. Karma is not just in your mind. Mind only matters to the extend mind and thought is a precursor to psychophysical action. Action starts in the mind. It is certainly not okay to exterminate in terms of karma, this is a huge karmic move of war/attack that none of us can afford. When humanity understands this, they can properly design their lifestyles, dwellings, and possessions to avoid infestations of various kinds. Avoiding clutter and being extremely clean is a big part of this.

All dogma is off the mark, the highest guidance comes from your own soul/conscousness/inside. Otherwise they say the blind follow the blind.

You know what harm is. You know when you are being harmed. It is the same for other beings. They also clearly let you know when youre harming them, often. Its true sometimes you harm various beings or microorganisms and cant tell, but this means living gently and carefully toward all the elements: Earth, Water, Air, (use of) fire, plant life, and animal life. Fighting off a cold is not the same as killing a person or animal, clearly. Nor is it even conscious, nor is it perfectly understood in science. It comes down to the minimalization of all harm. We kill when we walk, but we can walk carefully and gently and keep to clear pathways and watch where we step.

The mind has limited value for spiritual guidance. The neophyte spiritualist learns from teachers and adepts, imitates them out of personal judgment and perhaps the pursuit of morality, and has limited understanding and insight into all these practices. The practices of purification and silent meditation awaken a higher level of consciousness which reveals the full body of understanding, increasing levels of insight, perception, intuition, psychic abilities, great compassion and sympathetic insight, and makes one increasingly independent of all teachings, writings, and instruction. Its like lighting your candle from the flame of another. Once you are connected and have attained such a state, whose flame of fire is hotter or more effective? Dont let the slippery mind mislead or talk you into doing just about naything.

Scion

The question of food and eating reveals that the fruitarian practices are superior karmically. Fruits and leaves, including fruit-type vegetables are considered best and quite nutritious. These must have seeds that are easily separated from the fruit, and the seeds must be collected and treated properly and scattered or planted in an appropriate place. The transition from omnivore to vegetarian to vegan to fruitarian can be a gradual process seeing ones body and system evolve over time. Too sharp a leap may be too extreme for some to handle.

The purpose of eating is ultimately not to maintain the physical body indefinitely. The spiritual/karmic considerations must come first. the body cannot last forever, but the energy and spiritual inertia may be ongoing in various ways. The veg/fruitarian path may be considered an austerity or deprivation with purifying effects. If it leads to the dwindling/cessation of the body it is considered auspicious and acceptable. The karmic result and what is gained when the material phase of life ends is thought to be worth these minor, temporary inconveniences.

This is just a hint of the true benefits of karmic and spiritual practices. It involves the development of very pleasant inner qualities which improve the quality of life from the inside out. It involves subtle spiritual migrations to regions of existence where one will dwell among other likewise developed beings in worlds of a much different character than this one. But these things can be known and seen for oneself and should not be accepted by words alone.

kamikazi89

what do you mean by vamps? if there ain't enough white skinned are they allowed to recruit?

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Scion

well thats my best guess

kamikazi89

you're just making shit up now

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hijabihippie

Check out Octavia Butler's book "Fledgling" for an interesting take on vampires...

Scion

wish i was but now its gone

kamikazi89

*poof*

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