R1bal

One baktun, is 20 katun cycles in the mayan calendar. 144,000 days or 400 years. The Mayans civilization started around the 8th and 9th baktuns of our current callendar. The current 13th baktun will be completed on December 21st or 23rd 2012, 13.0.0.0.0. The first baktun was considered the creation or birth of life. Now if you dont know anything about gallactic allignments or precession of the equinoxes, some people believe the Mayans were very good at predicting this and so were the Egyptians. They not only predicted this to happen on 2012, but they also predicted a special happening in our universe. "A door into the heart of space and time will be open" "the cosmos will be reborn or recreated" "we will reach the zero point of the process, a moment of collective spiritual birth" So what do you think will happen? theres plenty of this stuff floating around and evidence leading to the same date...

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R1bal

Studys have proven that about 800 million years ago in the precambrian period the north pole shifted 50 degrees (the current distance between alaska and the equator) in less than 20 million years. If we are well overdue, and in the middle of a pole shift (the cause of global warming *maybe*) or this shift and the alignment have anything to do with each other, then who knows what is going to happen to mankind within the next couple generations. Are we in the middle of our last age on Earth???

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R1bal

Niburu, Planet X, whatever...

Alright, this is getting a little weird...

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_tyranT

i almost thing something for the worse will happen in 2010 or 2011 or 2012.

verklingen

honestly i believe this time is the point at which our universe will stop expanding and begin to contract. but it's not exact. the universe is fluid, and therefor the acceleration of expansion traveled through it like a wave. when this expansion stops (as a pendulum does at the apex of its swing) the momentary suspension will also travel through our universe like a wave, and so too the acceleration of contraction as its momentum reverses. what 2012 indicates is this wave of suspension reaching our galaxy and solar system. the "clockwork" of this area -- the motions which have proceeded from and continued since the beginning -- will be momentarily suspended as this wave passes through us. it will literally be a moment of no-time, for time is a result of motion. it's hard to say for certain what effects this may have on us and our consciousness.

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“Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.”

420smokeman

"us and our consciousness."

no seperation! we are consciousness! ALL ONE.

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cause there aint nothing else to do and any where i go i know im you and i keep coming back forward through to myself

Ego Tripping

"But that's only the beginning of the evolutionary cycle...because as the next cycle proceeds,the input is now this new intelligence. As intelligence piles on intelligence, as ability piles on ability, the speed changes. Until what? Until you reach a crescendo in a way...could be imagined as an enormous instantaneous fulfillment of human, human and neo-human potential." - Waking Life

I'm open to something awesome happening, like what you are referring to Verk or possible some kind of semi-collective vision (like a ton of people receiving the same message either waking or in their dream states, undeniable proof of another state of collective being) and also not a damn thing happening at all. It might be something so progressive and slow that we don't even realize that change has ocurred until we look back on it, much as we look back on our own history now and realize how much has actually shifted and relatively rapidly at that.

All I know is I will remain open to all possibilities...and I think that notion alone is what makes 2012 as significant as it is.

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Ego Tripping

Posted RA in another thread, but damn if this material isn't constantly applicable:

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The Rev

I've done alot of reading on this, and there's nothing that I've seen that indicates that the Maya saw the end of the world coming or anything else. In fact, they have some future events dated beyond the 2012 date of 13.0.0.0.0 on the long count calendar. Basically, all 2012 is is a glorified version of Y2K. It's the end of an approx. 5000 year cycle, like 2000 was the end of the millenium.



The Rev

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cantSEEme

the only thing weird about it is ppl believe it.

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scottishbastard

Between moving into the age of aquarius, the end of the mayan long count calendar, Nostradumus predictions of 2012, and us moving into the new sun cycle in 2013 (i believe) there is going to be a cosmic change of some kind. The mayans were perceptive in so many ways it's bizarre. Unless the had unknown technology, contact with god or extraterrestrials, or some sort of shamanic revelation I don't see how they could know as much as they did. For instance they believed the center of the milky war galaxy to be the entrance to hell. Only semi recently did we discover that there is a large black hole at the center of basically every galaxy.
I don't believe it will be the end of the world, but there may be some strange natural phenomenon and disasters. I heard that the earth is also switching it's axis sometime soon? I don't know that could just be misinformation. Anyways, the Full moon/werewolf roomers came from the fact that gravity is thought to greatly effect people's minds and bodies, and when the moon comes in it changes people in strange ways. If this is true (shit..Look what it does as far as making waves...and if we're 80% water then...) then even minor shifts in axis, gravity or position in the universe could greatly affect us.

I have seen so much consistency in astrology. I think our position in the stars (whether it's actually the stars themselves or other forces such as gravity) has a lot to do with how the earth is both physically, spiritually and mentally.

I don't believe there will be a doomsday type situation, but I believe an mass awakening of some kind is not only overdue but extremely probable. Maybe the economy going down the shitter will finally kill our materialistic nature? Hopefully.

And by the way...Y2K wasn't bullshit at all. The world almost did end...we got 8 years of Bush!

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Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
You think you hold the high hand
I've got my doubts
I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts
.....

And even if I have to go to Claremont
Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont
Let me go
Let me lie low

Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do
No matter what I ask of you
And you send your dark messengers to tempt me
I come from Chino so all your threats are empty

- the mountain goats

The Rev

You can't argue with that kind of logic.



The Rev

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flappy

True, this Yuga, the last one, only started about 7000 years ago. It still has a few thousand left. A New World Order, hopefully not one envisioned by our current Lords and Masters, the ones that gave us Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao,
I think people are waking up to the sham of government and the phony left/right,republican/democrat programming we and our ancestors were suckered into.

Nug_King

The Earth bobs up and down through the galatic plane in a roughly 30 million year cycle. Extinctions seem to happen on roughly a 30 million year cycle.

And we are right at the due date for the next one.

Source





Makes me feel like

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NASA found out in the beginnings of the space program that pens would not work in space. SO NASA spent millions of dollars and a good year and a half developing a pen that does not need gravity to draw the ink down.
The Russians just brought pencils...

Ego Tripping

What forces control that, I wonder?

Science says "nature" but that doesn't explain it's cycles or seeming intelligence that it displays.

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Qui-Bong Jinn

Its all based on religion = not true

Center

All I know for sure is that I'm going to do my very best to take advantage of all the people out their that believe 2012 is going to bring 'crazy shit' to our world. I'm gonna make some big fucking profits that year, period.

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"As an organizer I start where the world is, as it is, not as I would like it to be. That we accept the world as it is does not in any sense weaken our desire to change it into what we believe it should be — it is necessary to begin where the world is if we are going to change it to what we think it should be." - Saul Alinsky

flappy

Nothing like sharing the love, Center.

Linkey

how exactly will you profit from this?

Center

why does it always have to be about love and good feelings around here? that's not real life.

why would I tell you how I'm going to profit? Your competition because your not me.

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"As an organizer I start where the world is, as it is, not as I would like it to be. That we accept the world as it is does not in any sense weaken our desire to change it into what we believe it should be — it is necessary to begin where the world is if we are going to change it to what we think it should be." - Saul Alinsky