The Truth

420smokeman · 11-05-2009, 11:06 AM

There comes a day when you must choose whom you will serve, and this day is it. The only choice is to be the Christ or to not be the Christ, and you are making that choice every moment of every day.

So therefore I now say, "Choose to be!"

Truth only requires that you give your all to truth .....all of your human self, all of your ego, all of your false sense of identity concerning who you think you are. That is all truth requires. And when you realize that if you give your all to truth, truth will give all to you, then it suddenly is not such a big requirement.

There is only one truth.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

verklingen · 11-05-2009, 11:41 AM

open your imagination beyond your current station and the truth will soothe you like a cool breeze. you'll know just what to do, and it will seem so pleasing that you can't wait to do it

responsibilities can seem limiting until realized through your response-ability. then you joyously accept them into their vital place within the tapestry of life we weave day by day

Waves · 11-05-2009, 12:19 PM

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There is only one truth.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

I disagree. I used to believe this, and i used to fervently seek for the 'one truth'

then i realized that every person has their own truth and even if an objective truth does exist its besides the point because we all have our own perspective and its our right as living beings to choose the perspective and beliefs that we think are best for us individually. yours might be christ, some other peoples might be buddha, some other peoples might be alla.

now i worry about my own truth, and let others have theirs

hijabihippie · 11-06-2009, 06:15 AM

"There is no compulsion in religion".
--The Quran

"Unto you be your way, and unto me be my way".
--The Quran

verklingen · 11-06-2009, 06:21 AM

i shy away from consecrating any one generality as "truth" because it is my understanding that permitting and encouraging each of us to seek our own sense of truth, fulfillment, spirituality, etc is the surest way toward a world whose every creature is harmonized with the joyous song of life

Enjoy Jars · 11-06-2009, 08:23 AM

Ya, it's a bit much to say there is only one truth. The search for truth is just as important, and when you think you have found it, keep searchin...

420smokeman · 11-06-2009, 08:58 AM

to see change there has to be a unchangable truth to witness it. bodys change... minds change, belifes change.. but that which watches it all dosent ever change. and the unchangless is the ultimate truth that is before and after exisance. and when "you" become in line with that. its all that exists... like "you" totally dissapear into the unchangeable truth that you allways were and you just watch everything happen.. knowing how is all gonna end. all change turning back into the changeless. everything collapsings into youself!

The Rev · 11-06-2009, 06:22 PM

Truth is a story that we mistake for the subject of the story, because they seem so alike. Still, an experience, and a retelling of that experience, are two very different things.

The Rev

Ego Tripping · 11-06-2009, 09:04 PM

If you think you understand truth (enough to tell others what it is)...then you don't know it. If you know it, it's most likely beyond words. How does that saying go? "He who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know."

But I do agree that every moment is a choice. And honestly, if that choice is love, then you're doing just fine and then some...no belief system(s) required.

Ego Tripping · 11-06-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 420smokeman

knowing how is all gonna end.

And begin again.

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all change turning back into the changeless.

And back into change.

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everything collapsings into youself!

And expanding yet again.

Mercury · 11-07-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 420smokeman

There comes a day when you must choose whom you will serve, and this day is it. The only choice is to be the Christ or to not be the Christ, and you are making that choice every moment of every day.

So therefore I now say, "Choose to be!"

Truth only requires that you give your all to truth .....all of your human self, all of your ego, all of your false sense of identity concerning who you think you are. That is all truth requires. And when you realize that if you give your all to truth, truth will give all to you, then it suddenly is not such a big requirement.

There is only one truth.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Who told you this? You say it with such authority.

420smokeman · 11-07-2009, 01:48 PM

just from expirences ive had and deep thinking and psycedelics, and crazy relization that blow me away soo completly beyond words.. then i try to put it into word and explaine all my expirences.... the search for truth!!! its never ending..untill you relize who you are,, cause who you are has to be truth.. under all the concepts and ideas.. existance itself is truth.. and truth can never die!!!! the dead never live and the living never die! theres a place that when you are in line with it, it is pure truth and you are everything!!!

hijabihippie · 11-07-2009, 04:38 PM

"Thou art God."
--Robert Heinlein, Stranger In A Strange Land

Mydriasis · 11-07-2009, 06:06 PM

Truth is infinity.
Love is the energy which embraces infinity(some may understand this better as change).

That is the only truth I know of, that and I know of nothing.

Christ was a man, possibly the son of god, but then again aren't we all

? There are many more choices then to be with or with-out Christ imo. I live by the morals, I try to follow the light, but I live by only truths, and not by things which I can not witness. Sadly I can not witness Christ, I bet he was an amazing person.

Ego Tripping · 11-07-2009, 07:30 PM

The best way that I've heard it summed up:

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"Beauty is truth, truth beauty. That is all ye know on Earth, and all ye need to know."
-- John Keats

Indeed, I feel that's the defining way to know if what you are experiencing is truth.

420smokeman · 11-08-2009, 09:53 AM

then theres also the saying.. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"....which would turn truth into something relative wouldent it??

HTAM · 11-08-2009, 10:49 AM

^To add to that, North and South are 'truths'. East and West are 'relative truths, depending on your location on the planet.

North will always be north and south will always be south, but east and west depends on your point of reference.

Mydriasis · 11-08-2009, 11:29 AM

But where is north or south in outer space?

All orientations are relative and irrelevant by any means other then the sciences. imo.

HTAM · 11-08-2009, 01:02 PM

^Right....My post was in reference to Earth, just to clarify.

Ego Tripping · 11-08-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 420smokeman

then theres also the saying.. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"....which would turn truth into something relative wouldent it??

Indeed, but it always works on a personal level, that's the beauty of it.

And dude, everything is relative.

11-05-2009, 11:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
420smokeman CannabisConnoisseur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 202 Thanked 149 Times in 100 Posts	The Truth There comes a day when you must choose whom you will serve, and this day is it. The only choice is to be the Christ or to not be the Christ, and you are making that choice every moment of every day. So therefore I now say, "Choose to be!" Truth only requires that you give your all to truth .....all of your human self, all of your ego, all of your false sense of identity concerning who you think you are. That is all truth requires. And when you realize that if you give your all to truth, truth will give all to you, then it suddenly is not such a big requirement. There is only one truth.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! __________________ cause there aint nothing else to do and any where i go i know im you and i keep coming back forward through to myself

11-05-2009, 11:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	open your imagination beyond your current station and the truth will soothe you like a cool breeze. you'll know just what to do, and it will seem so pleasing that you can't wait to do it responsibilities can seem limiting until realized through your response-ability. then you joyously accept them into their vital place within the tapestry of life we weave day by day __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

11-06-2009, 06:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,005 Thanks: 811 Thanked 1,491 Times in 946 Posts	i shy away from consecrating any one generality as "truth" because it is my understanding that permitting and encouraging each of us to seek our own sense of truth, fulfillment, spirituality, etc is the surest way toward a world whose every creature is harmonized with the joyous song of life __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

11-06-2009, 08:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
420smokeman CannabisConnoisseur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 202 Thanked 149 Times in 100 Posts	to see change there has to be a unchangable truth to witness it. bodys change... minds change, belifes change.. but that which watches it all dosent ever change. and the unchangless is the ultimate truth that is before and after exisance. and when "you" become in line with that. its all that exists... like "you" totally dissapear into the unchangeable truth that you allways were and you just watch everything happen.. knowing how is all gonna end. all change turning back into the changeless. everything collapsings into youself! __________________ cause there aint nothing else to do and any where i go i know im you and i keep coming back forward through to myself

11-06-2009, 06:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,860 Thanks: 5,012 Thanked 5,416 Times in 2,862 Posts	Truth is a story that we mistake for the subject of the story, because they seem so alike. Still, an experience, and a retelling of that experience, are two very different things. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

11-06-2009, 06:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
hijabihippie YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,481 Thanks: 1,152 Thanked 655 Times in 515 Posts	"There is no compulsion in religion". --The Quran "Unto you be your way, and unto me be my way". --The Quran

11-06-2009, 08:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
Enjoy Jars YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 7 Posts	Ya, it's a bit much to say there is only one truth. The search for truth is just as important, and when you think you have found it, keep searchin...

11-06-2009, 09:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ego Tripping Are you in? Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,468 Thanks: 229 Thanked 665 Times in 443 Posts	If you think you understand truth (enough to tell others what it is)...then you don't know it. If you know it, it's most likely beyond words. How does that saying go? "He who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know." But I do agree that every moment is a choice. And honestly, if that choice is love, then you're doing just fine and then some...no belief system(s) required. __________________ God appears, and God is light, To those poor souls who dwell in night; But does a human form display To those who dwell in realms of day. Last edited by Ego Tripping; 11-06-2009 at 09:09 PM.

11-07-2009, 01:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
420smokeman CannabisConnoisseur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 202 Thanked 149 Times in 100 Posts	just from expirences ive had and deep thinking and psycedelics, and crazy relization that blow me away soo completly beyond words.. then i try to put it into word and explaine all my expirences.... the search for truth!!! its never ending..untill you relize who you are,, cause who you are has to be truth.. under all the concepts and ideas.. existance itself is truth.. and truth can never die!!!! the dead never live and the living never die! theres a place that when you are in line with it, it is pure truth and you are everything!!! __________________ cause there aint nothing else to do and any where i go i know im you and i keep coming back forward through to myself Last edited by 420smokeman; 11-07-2009 at 02:02 PM.

11-07-2009, 04:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
hijabihippie YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,481 Thanks: 1,152 Thanked 655 Times in 515 Posts	"Thou art God." --Robert Heinlein, Stranger In A Strange Land Last edited by hijabihippie; 11-07-2009 at 04:40 PM.

11-07-2009, 06:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,293 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	Truth is infinity. Love is the energy which embraces infinity(some may understand this better as change). That is the only truth I know of, that and I know of nothing. Christ was a man, possibly the son of god, but then again aren't we all ? There are many more choices then to be with or with-out Christ imo. I live by the morals, I try to follow the light, but I live by only truths, and not by things which I can not witness. Sadly I can not witness Christ, I bet he was an amazing person. __________________ ۞

11-08-2009, 09:53 AM	#16 (permalink)
420smokeman CannabisConnoisseur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 202 Thanked 149 Times in 100 Posts	then theres also the saying.. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"....which would turn truth into something relative wouldent it?? __________________ cause there aint nothing else to do and any where i go i know im you and i keep coming back forward through to myself

11-08-2009, 10:49 AM	#17 (permalink)
HTAM Old School Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,872 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 2,117 Times in 1,179 Posts	^To add to that, North and South are 'truths'. East and West are 'relative truths, depending on your location on the planet. North will always be north and south will always be south, but east and west depends on your point of reference.

11-08-2009, 11:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,293 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	But where is north or south in outer space? All orientations are relative and irrelevant by any means other then the sciences. imo. __________________ ۞

11-08-2009, 01:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
HTAM Old School Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,872 Thanks: 2,368 Thanked 2,117 Times in 1,179 Posts	^Right....My post was in reference to Earth, just to clarify.

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