You

Silverleaf · 11-27-2009, 12:42 PM

Choose:

1) What you do defines who you are.
2) Who you are defines what you do.
3) It's not what you do, but the way you do it.
4) I'm gay. Like, super gay.

**SageTree** · 11-27-2009, 01:10 PM

I could defend all those points..... Being and Doing are so tied together.

I would choose #3
Choosing to use your judgment for the benefit of others and yourself seems to fit my schema the best. Because 'not doing' is still 'doing'. Meaning sometimes it's about the notes you don't play in life that have the bigger 'defining' meaning and impact.

Although 1 & 2 seem simultaneously true.

my_scatterheart · 11-27-2009, 01:23 PM

"It's not who breaks the ribbon, boy, it's how you get across."

3.

edit: uh. I'm sleepy.

**SageTree** · 11-27-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my_scatterheart

edit: uh. I'm sleepy.

Would you say that has more to do with who you are or why you're doing it

Or is that how you are getting there

SageTree

my_scatterheart · 11-27-2009, 01:41 PM

3. Totally 3.

Debaser · 11-27-2009, 02:29 PM

3

hijabihippie · 11-28-2009, 12:00 PM

5) All of the above. And proud of it.

Lose the prejudice.

The Rev · 11-28-2009, 12:21 PM

There is no "You". "You" is just an idea that you mistake for something that actually exists. In fact, I would go so far as to say that this error is the most elemental error in human interraction, and is responsible for the majority of the horror and pain we inflict on each other.

In fact, fuck "you".

The Rev

Mydriasis · 11-28-2009, 02:12 PM

Identity is bullshit.
Ego is that same bullshit but fermented in snake venom with an remote control heterogeneously mixed into solution.

Burn it in a fucking fire, NEVER limit energy.

"You" are a mirage. A great nothing of nothings. So many better things then he, she, it, and self.

Seperations make me cry at night.

reverie · 11-28-2009, 02:51 PM

Although I understand (and fully integrate) the sentiment of "The other is a lie", and potentially realized unity.. I would have to largely disagree with individuality being a falsehood.

I would say that Identity is life. It is being. For the one and the whole's vitality resides in self-realization. To have a manifestation of a flower is to acknowledge it's beauty as well as it's flaws. I see my senses (ego and all) as a blessing, they are unique and in being unique my experience has valid representation. Integrity and intimacy.

In real terms...I think the tragedy resides when externalized influences promote someone into forming an identity around unauthentic motivators. In others words: Someone pulling a fake shtick. This is where unity is unappreciated in the most diabolical way. If you cant love your slice of the pie, there's no way you're working your way through the rest of it.

As my unrealized lover and philosopher says;

"The pursuit of that so called 'individuality' is everything I believe in. The fullest pursuit of those possibilities of that quote unquote 'Individuality'. Even if it is an absolute failure, it is the most beautiful failure I can think of."
-Levitch

badgoalie85 · 11-28-2009, 02:53 PM

^heyyyy reverie.

i choose 4.

reverie · 11-28-2009, 02:56 PM

Hey there bg

How have you been?

Mydriasis · 11-28-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverie

I see my senses (ego and all) as a blessing, they are unique and in being unique my experience has valid representation. Integrity and intimacy.

So your senses and experiences are only unique to you? Go do something worth-while.

Quote:

If you cant love your slice of the pie, there's no way you're working your way through the rest of it.

What slice is that? Is the land the place you live in yours too?

Quote:

As my unrealized lover and philosopher says;

Your philosopher? God damn it everything is yours isn't it?

Have you fallen into the worthless pit-fall of solipsism?
Praying for yea.

reverie · 11-28-2009, 04:29 PM

Hey now, that's quite the emotional responsive vibe you have for someone speaking so passionately against ego.

Assuming I am claiming my senses (as well as the philosopher I quoted) in a possessive sense, is running ahead of my sentiment, foolish and simply false. Classifications such as "Yours" or "Mine" or any word for that matter are made in attempts to detail our proximity and relationship to any given event or phenomenon.

And yes, this specific experience I'm involved in is uniquely mine. But just because it is mine does not synonymously mean it is not shared. I fully embrace this, like I had prefaced my entire prior post.

Thanks for the prayers, interpersonal extensions are what make this experience all the more valuable.

**~~stateofkane~~** · 11-29-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my_scatterheart

"It's not who breaks the ribbon, boy, it's how you get across."

3.

edit: uh. I'm sleepy.

No, it's who breaks the ribbon that gets the medal. The guy in the wheelchair who comes in last just gets pity and fake admiration.

my_scatterheart · 11-29-2009, 10:16 AM

I bet your mom wishes she aborted you.

hijabihippie · 11-29-2009, 10:21 AM

Stateofkane, I know guys in wheelchairs who can kick your TAB ass.

Angelo · 11-29-2009, 10:31 AM

3) It's not what you do, but the way you do it.

its the one i feel is most right for me and my life

skyywatcher · 11-29-2009, 03:37 PM

#1 all the way.

**SageTree** · 11-29-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rev

There is no "You". "You" is just an idea that you mistake for something that actually exists. In fact, I would go so far as to say that this error is the most elemental error in human interraction, and is responsible for the majority of the horror and pain we inflict on each other.

In fact, fuck "you".

The Rev

Agreed and why my answer was half hearted and made my head whirl. Do I answer this Relatively or Ultimately in my perspective. Nicely stated Rev.

11-27-2009, 12:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Silverleaf Toker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: in the wild Posts: 508 Thanks: 222 Thanked 77 Times in 52 Posts	You Choose: 1) What you do defines who you are. 2) Who you are defines what you do. 3) It's not what you do, but the way you do it. 4) I'm gay. Like, super gay. __________________

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SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,767 Times in 4,664 Posts	I could defend all those points..... Being and Doing are so tied together. I would choose #3 Choosing to use your judgment for the benefit of others and yourself seems to fit my schema the best. Because 'not doing' is still 'doing'. Meaning sometimes it's about the notes you don't play in life that have the bigger 'defining' meaning and impact. Although 1 & 2 seem simultaneously true. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

11-27-2009, 01:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,565 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,324 Times in 1,870 Posts	"It's not who breaks the ribbon, boy, it's how you get across." 3. edit: uh. I'm sleepy. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega Last edited by my_scatterheart; 11-27-2009 at 01:35 PM. Reason: naps melt my head

11-27-2009, 01:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,565 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,324 Times in 1,870 Posts	3. Totally 3. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega

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11-28-2009, 12:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
hijabihippie YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,481 Thanks: 1,152 Thanked 655 Times in 515 Posts	5) All of the above. And proud of it. Lose the prejudice. Last edited by hijabihippie; 11-29-2009 at 08:17 AM.

11-28-2009, 12:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,863 Thanks: 5,015 Thanked 5,417 Times in 2,863 Posts	There is no "You". "You" is just an idea that you mistake for something that actually exists. In fact, I would go so far as to say that this error is the most elemental error in human interraction, and is responsible for the majority of the horror and pain we inflict on each other. In fact, fuck "you". The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

11-28-2009, 02:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mydriasis Do Not Resuscitate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,293 Thanks: 840 Thanked 431 Times in 298 Posts	Identity is bullshit. Ego is that same bullshit but fermented in snake venom with an remote control heterogeneously mixed into solution. Burn it in a fucking fire, NEVER limit energy. "You" are a mirage. A great nothing of nothings. So many better things then he, she, it, and self. Seperations make me cry at night. __________________ ۞ Last edited by Mydriasis; 11-28-2009 at 02:18 PM.

11-28-2009, 02:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
reverie Trapeze Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,443 Thanks: 46 Thanked 93 Times in 66 Posts	Although I understand (and fully integrate) the sentiment of "The other is a lie", and potentially realized unity.. I would have to largely disagree with individuality being a falsehood. I would say that Identity is life. It is being. For the one and the whole's vitality resides in self-realization. To have a manifestation of a flower is to acknowledge it's beauty as well as it's flaws. I see my senses (ego and all) as a blessing, they are unique and in being unique my experience has valid representation. Integrity and intimacy. In real terms...I think the tragedy resides when externalized influences promote someone into forming an identity around unauthentic motivators. In others words: Someone pulling a fake shtick. This is where unity is unappreciated in the most diabolical way. If you cant love your slice of the pie, there's no way you're working your way through the rest of it. As my unrealized lover and philosopher says; "The pursuit of that so called 'individuality' is everything I believe in. The fullest pursuit of those possibilities of that quote unquote 'Individuality'. Even if it is an absolute failure, it is the most beautiful failure I can think of." -Levitch __________________ "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." -Obi-Wan Kenobi "Where there is cruise there is an escort of anti-cruise. But even in a bastion of anti-cruise fodder... there is cruise" -Levitch Elegies and Reveries to No One. Aka: Poetry and shit.

11-28-2009, 02:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
badgoalie85 Spiraling Out Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NoVA Posts: 1,085 Thanks: 97 Thanked 454 Times in 288 Posts	^heyyyy reverie. i choose 4. __________________ Pursue happiness. To each his own.

11-28-2009, 02:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
reverie Trapeze Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,443 Thanks: 46 Thanked 93 Times in 66 Posts	Hey there bg How have you been? __________________ "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." -Obi-Wan Kenobi "Where there is cruise there is an escort of anti-cruise. But even in a bastion of anti-cruise fodder... there is cruise" -Levitch Elegies and Reveries to No One. Aka: Poetry and shit.

11-28-2009, 04:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
reverie Trapeze Artist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,443 Thanks: 46 Thanked 93 Times in 66 Posts	Hey now, that's quite the emotional responsive vibe you have for someone speaking so passionately against ego. Assuming I am claiming my senses (as well as the philosopher I quoted) in a possessive sense, is running ahead of my sentiment, foolish and simply false. Classifications such as "Yours" or "Mine" or any word for that matter are made in attempts to detail our proximity and relationship to any given event or phenomenon. And yes, this specific experience I'm involved in is uniquely mine. But just because it is mine does not synonymously mean it is not shared. I fully embrace this, like I had prefaced my entire prior post. Thanks for the prayers, interpersonal extensions are what make this experience all the more valuable. __________________ "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." -Obi-Wan Kenobi "Where there is cruise there is an escort of anti-cruise. But even in a bastion of anti-cruise fodder... there is cruise" -Levitch Elegies and Reveries to No One. Aka: Poetry and shit.

11-29-2009, 10:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
my_scatterheart Today, I am alive. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,565 Thanks: 1,486 Thanked 3,324 Times in 1,870 Posts	I bet your mom wishes she aborted you. __________________ Be mindful even if your mind is full. -J. De La Vega

11-29-2009, 10:21 AM	#17 (permalink)
hijabihippie YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,481 Thanks: 1,152 Thanked 655 Times in 515 Posts	Stateofkane, I know guys in wheelchairs who can kick your TAB ass.

11-29-2009, 10:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
Angelo YaHookan Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 15 Posts	3) It's not what you do, but the way you do it. its the one i feel is most right for me and my life

11-29-2009, 03:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
skyywatcher whats wicked is... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: cloud 9 Posts: 154 Thanks: 22 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	#1 all the way.

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