Mydriasis

Lately I have had a new approach to life. As always I am fitting on new perspectives. This one has had shocking if not drastic effects on my daily life.

All I have been doing is when I encounter an obstacle or something I must do, I realize that I have done it before, and that the task and everything else is ancient.

All that has been happening lately is Deja Vu, and I mean everything. Even this thread, and the last thread, and the one before that. The way I brushed my teeth, the way I studied for my logic final, and the math final I recently took.

I urge other people to just try this out for one week and let me know what kind of effects it has on them. I'm not going to lie, it's kind of freaky.

Just honestly believe and be mindful of the fact that this existence is ancient and that you have already done everything. If it's for an obstacle just realize that you have already surpassed it with great ease eons ago, and you will, just like you have before.

Is Deja Vu a 4 dimensional swap(reality change) with an alternative self?
Is this the key to "beginners luck"?

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José

hmmm.. interesting..

Mafoo

ive been getting deja vu and weird ass dreams alot lately.. sounds liked you're tapped into the higher dimensions or something

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PLUR
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

osirus2020

Actually Deja Vu is a lack of oxygen getting to your brain.

I'm just fucking around, that's very interesting to think about.

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Flamingnun

Do more exciting shit if you're stuck in a loop?

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Mydriasis

I don't mean that this deja vu is boring it's actually kind of exciting in itself. It's more of the "WTF WTF Deja Vu" than it is the "this agaiiiinnn wahhhh".

I'm really not sure how to explain it, but my logic final which I have never done in this 'existence' was completely familiar. So if any of you are taking finals or anything before the test just believe or realize that you have already taken the test, and you have already succeeded on it.

If nothing else, it should help with a little bit more confidence. It's kind of like visualizing your success in a way. Or maybe it is picking realities.

Like today I was selling back my logic book, and it was in kind of poor shape(front cover had a cut in it and has some water spills on the first 30-50 pages).

The lady was like "I don't think we can buy this back, it has some pretty bad damage.".

So I rebuttled in my thoughts "You have already bought this back for 40 dollars". and visualized it as it has happened before.

After a brief pause she just scanned it, and asked some other lady who didn't even look at it and just stamped it as "used".

I then was handed $49.50.

As soon as I left I just got trapped into a WTF deja vu moment.

All I'm saying is try it out, maybe it will work for you guys too. I can not doubt it for myself because the results have all been very positive .

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SageTree

My 91 year old friend Milos says 'Benni, there is nothing new under the sun'

Which stuck me as really depressing until I realized he was right and that it was empowering. What is to fear? What is to be surprised by?

I'm not sure if this is what you mean in practice, but this is how I view things. Celebrate the mundane, it's the better part of our lives, meaning what we are up to the most. This is what chop wood carry water means, before and after enlightenment, shit still needs done. Our perspective is what has changed.

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yo.

No..







That's kinda dumb. That's not my natural train of thought, so to me, every new day means everything is new, (except super repetitive things like work) and I love challenging myself and my mind with new obstacles.

Or maybe I misunderstood ya.

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yo.

^ As soon as i saw your name under new post, i knew you'd be like that.
I love you, turm.

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yo.

yeah,

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Mydriasis

Sagetree - I totally agree. but it makes the mundane maybe more exciting, or at least for me . Time traveling in a way, or at least it feels that way.

I couldn't agree more though, when you reach these kinds of realizations or 'vibrations' you still have to carry on forward in a way to be part of the community of life, no matter how abstract or 'progressed' ones views get.

Yo - I understand your disagreement and value it. Though I wish there was a stronger argument for denying something aside from "That's not my natural train of thought".

I think you may have misunderstood me but either way it's all good. All I am saying is, nothing is a challenge, you've already done it before. And live that way .

If you like to live through the struggle of a new challenge than sure don't try it out, but for me this works wonderfully and fits into my life well.

Turm - It's weird cuz even for the simplest things it adds a new spice to it, almost a disatachment. Not that you are bored or bothered or "not there" for the action but that it comes more fluidly as if your just being guided through the day by an outer-self, verses "oh fuck I gotta do this, what is this?, how do I do that?". It's trusting in the fact that you already know, have done it, and will succeed .

to each their own! Just sharing my experiences

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verklingen

i've noticed this, too. i consider it a symptom of time ceasing to exist as the concurrence of all happening is beginning to be blended with our perceptions rather than deconstructed and arranged linearly by them.

there is indeed nothing new under the sun. but you are the sun!

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SageTree

Verk, What did the Father Buffalo say to his son when he was headed to school?



BYE-SON!

I think what you are talking about Verk I would closely relate to the experiences we have when we are really with what we are doing. Often the time ends up flying by and we've done something simple for a long time, or seen how much we've done in such a short time.

I experience this most often when I am gardening and hiking. Also I experienced this this fall sorting trees on a belt line sorting trees. There was almost a point where the quality of tree, the speed of the line and you ability to just sense you were piling the right number of trees became a blur and the shift passed with a blink. I call it Zen quality operations Those things didn't occur together as much as last fall season though.

Which leads me to this.

I can't cold heartedly say that thanks isn't nice and favourable as these things are part of a healthy life. In my opinion finding some inward reasoning and reward/satisfaction is also good and healthy.

Specifically what I mean here is when we do any activity with a mindful presence it's part of a practice at being where we are. When we do dishes we feel the warmth and texture of the water and notice how it makes us feel. When carrying heavy loads we look at the straightness of our back and how our muscles are clenched. We sense our lives and rest in them like we hear the sounds of the changing storm on a tin roof. We can sense the severity and intensity of the weather, but our constant awareness of the roof over our heads brings us ease with which to weather it.

This roof is mindfulness and under its power, which is in us, we can see certain things arising and other falling. We are more aware of how to deal naturally with the concern.

Without thinking that you will have to do something forever without thanks, ponder rather, WHY you would keep doing it IF no one ever said thanks and if you ever would keep doing it at all. Find your inner importance to doing it.

Once you know why you are doing it, hopefully it will come with ease more often. This doesn't mean it won't stink sometimes. And that you still can't ask kindly for a thanks, or better yet, some help now and again, but it will help you through the dry spells knowing your doing it because you want to and for whatever reason it has to be done.

So next time you are doing the dishes or whatever feel with all your senses what you are doing and make it a constant play of the senses. You're the ring master, the senses the lions, and your perspective is the taming you do them, your skillful means of teaching. They don't always act how you would like them, but with time and looking you'll know more what it looks like when they are about to do something you don't think is favourable to the crowd. The Ring Master knows when to use the lions cunning speed and wit, natural to the lion and when to hold back the ferocious snarl as you stick you head it is mouth.

I wish you all the happy things turm. And think of the moments in life that have brought you this far. You may already have quite a collection of whips, hoops and balls to train them lions your dealing with now.

Sage Tree

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verklingen

sage you put that nicely, as usual (nice joke to boot )

this, i feel, probes the mystery of the deja vu experience. it's as though our every faculty fills the moment with an absolute presence of being, and in that time there is no "before" to speak of. . . only an unending now which, once recognized as unusual by our logical mind, becomes incrementally compartmentalized and fitted into our structure of time as the gears of linearity begin to turn once more. what you describe is a way of inviting yourself to get into the habit of allowing that sensation more regularly, so that it's no longer so unusual.

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osirus2020

It's amazing how well this works. I think the relief from pressure to do things properly the first time is the reason I can find things hard to do like starting a huge essay or even working on this art project. This system basically alleviates that stress and helps me think straight.

I have been offered the advice to be motivated by the finished job, not the task itself. For example; I don't like cleaning my basement, but I like having a clean workshop. Knowing that I feel more comfortable and am more productive when I'm organized, helps me strive for that organization.

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420smokeman

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SageTree

This is a concise way of saying what I was saying. If you know why you're up to soing it. You'll be happy you did it when it's finished.

Hidden message? You or me?

Either way I'm sorry you are feeling trapped right now.

The first step on the road means that you are already walking down it. And that is the hardest one to take.

Humbly accept these thoughts and a friend and not in a telling way. The net makes it harder to have a proper exchange of listening vs talking. So look at this as my thinking about it and if you want to talk more specifically, please PM me as I care an aweful lot and know you have the tools you need to wade through this.

Metta,
Sage

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