micro = macro

Waves · 01-08-2010, 02:20 PM

Golden ratio discovered in a quantum world

Researchers from the Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB), in cooperation with colleagues from Oxford and Bristol Universities, as well as the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, UK, have for the first time observed a nanoscale symmetry hidden in solid state matter. They have measured the signatures of a symmetry showing the same attributes as the golden ratio famous from art and architecture. The research team is publishing these findings in Science on the 8. January.

Golden ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In mathematics and the arts, two quantities are in the golden ratio if the ratio of the sum of the quantities to the larger quantity is equal to (=) the ratio of the larger quantity to the smaller one. The golden ratio is an irrational mathematical constant, approximately 1.6180339887.[1] Other names frequently used for the golden ratio are the golden section (Latin: sectio aurea) and golden mean.[2][3][4] Other terms encountered include extreme and mean ratio,[5] medial section, divine proportion, divine section (Latin: sectio divina), golden proportion, golden cut,[6] golden number, and mean of Phidias.[7][8][9] The golden ratio is often denoted by the Greek letter phi, usually lower case (φ).

trippy dood

**Mafoo** · 01-08-2010, 02:26 PM

i like the way you put it, micro= macro

ive been looking for a way to describe this phenomena. big is the same as small is the same a huge is the same as microscopic.

i think it just shows how physics shapes everything

Waves · 01-08-2010, 02:31 PM

yep, its like you cant directly observe the laws of the universe but by observing how those laws shape us and the shit around us, you CAN sort of get an understanding of how this is all going down, and perhaps a better understanding of how you work as a human being?

verklingen · 01-08-2010, 02:34 PM

nice pics!

so all physicality/existence adheres to the same self-similar pattern: something we might call a signature. between this and the exotic states of matter scientists keep discovering/creating, we're sure learning a lot about the properties of our universe. it's seriously cool shit

Waves · 01-08-2010, 02:36 PM

verklingen · 01-08-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waves

yep, its like you cant directly observe the laws of the universe but by observing how those laws shape us and the shit around us, you CAN sort of get an understanding of how this is all going down, and perhaps a better understanding of how you work as a human being?

you gotta learn how computer programs work before you can become a programmer

i really see the universe as a game whose code we can manipulate. it's all data, conveying properties that react among each other according to the data. experimental physics is literally shaping new matter and creating properties that we didn't think existed. and perhaps most intriguingly, these properties can potentially help solve some of the technological dilemmas we face as a species.

nothing is impossible now

Mescalito · 01-08-2010, 08:38 PM

The Rev · 01-08-2010, 11:01 PM

Funny you should mention this today. I was doing some research in stock prices and stumbled across phi in a price estimation model.

The Rev

derek for real · 01-09-2010, 04:16 AM

everything with reason

FourtySecondRip · 01-09-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rev

Funny you should mention this today. I was doing some research in stock prices and stumbled across phi in a price estimation model.

The Rev

did the stock become worth its weight in gold?

The Rev · 01-09-2010, 07:07 PM

I'll have to get back to you on that if you want a definitive answer, but so far, it appears that yes, it did.

The Rev

BibleGuy · 01-11-2010, 12:45 PM

Rock on, Waves! This is a majorly cool thread. (I like symbols

) Just watched "Revelation" with Terrence Stamp last night - full of symbols and a very DaVinci Code-ish storyline.

Roach · 01-11-2010, 02:48 PM

the human curve or "s" curve...I've known about all my life.

not sure where I learned it. But to me this isn't news.

none the less interesting someone mathmatically can prove it.

I suppose.

Mescalito · 01-18-2010, 08:47 AM

amazing... Mandelbulb: The Unravelling of the Real 3D Mandelbrot Fractal

verklingen · 01-18-2010, 09:14 AM

^ seriously cool!

msicidron · 01-28-2010, 08:13 AM

wow seriously..

thats fucking cool!

BibleGuy · 01-28-2010, 09:42 AM

Wild stuff. Those Mandelbulb zooms look like life forms... kinda like coral formations.

Anyone ever "see" geometric shapes during meditation? Golden ratio or other?

Mescalito · 01-28-2010, 10:17 PM

I see them everywhere.

M

Anonymous4674 · 02-01-2010, 10:30 PM

Waves, Look up Hugh Everett, and his presentation of dual or multiple realities.

It is my belief that (based on the above) that the external observer can effect the desired outcome.

Human-yo · 02-01-2010, 11:48 PM

Golden ratio nudez anyone?

01-08-2010, 02:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,475 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,021 Times in 2,219 Posts	micro = macro Golden ratio discovered in a quantum world Researchers from the Helmholtz-Zentrum Berlin für Materialien und Energie (HZB), in cooperation with colleagues from Oxford and Bristol Universities, as well as the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, UK, have for the first time observed a nanoscale symmetry hidden in solid state matter. They have measured the signatures of a symmetry showing the same attributes as the golden ratio famous from art and architecture. The research team is publishing these findings in Science on the 8. January. Golden ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In mathematics and the arts, two quantities are in the golden ratio if the ratio of the sum of the quantities to the larger quantity is equal to (=) the ratio of the larger quantity to the smaller one. The golden ratio is an irrational mathematical constant, approximately 1.6180339887.[1] Other names frequently used for the golden ratio are the golden section (Latin: sectio aurea) and golden mean.[2][3][4] Other terms encountered include extreme and mean ratio,[5] medial section, divine proportion, divine section (Latin: sectio divina), golden proportion, golden cut,[6] golden number, and mean of Phidias.[7][8][9] The golden ratio is often denoted by the Greek letter phi, usually lower case (φ). trippy dood __________________ On this life that we call home The years go fast and the days go so slow Last edited by Waves; 01-08-2010 at 02:27 PM.

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Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,962 Thanks: 3,491 Thanked 2,356 Times in 1,540 Posts	i like the way you put it, micro= macro ive been looking for a way to describe this phenomena. big is the same as small is the same a huge is the same as microscopic. i think it just shows how physics shapes everything __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

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Waves Duderino Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: chiburbs Posts: 15,475 Thanks: 991 Thanked 4,021 Times in 2,219 Posts	yep, its like you cant directly observe the laws of the universe but by observing how those laws shape us and the shit around us, you CAN sort of get an understanding of how this is all going down, and perhaps a better understanding of how you work as a human being? __________________ On this life that we call home The years go fast and the days go so slow

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verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	nice pics! so all physicality/existence adheres to the same self-similar pattern: something we might call a signature. between this and the exotic states of matter scientists keep discovering/creating, we're sure learning a lot about the properties of our universe. it's seriously cool shit __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,671 Thanks: 4,716 Thanked 5,056 Times in 2,707 Posts	Funny you should mention this today. I was doing some research in stock prices and stumbled across phi in a price estimation model. The Rev __________________ "You're seriously flying close to the fag-sun, icarus." -Flamingnun

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The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,671 Thanks: 4,716 Thanked 5,056 Times in 2,707 Posts	I'll have to get back to you on that if you want a definitive answer, but so far, it appears that yes, it did. The Rev __________________ "You're seriously flying close to the fag-sun, icarus." -Flamingnun

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BibleGuy YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 329 Thanks: 137 Thanked 136 Times in 85 Posts	Rock on, Waves! This is a majorly cool thread. (I like symbols ) Just watched "Revelation" with Terrence Stamp last night - full of symbols and a very DaVinci Code-ish storyline.

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Roach Victoria Aut Mors Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 6,771 Thanks: 2,116 Thanked 1,721 Times in 1,333 Posts	the human curve or "s" curve...I've known about all my life. not sure where I learned it. But to me this isn't news. none the less interesting someone mathmatically can prove it. I suppose.

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verklingen Radical Dreamer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: texas Posts: 8,031 Thanks: 795 Thanked 1,470 Times in 940 Posts	^ seriously cool! __________________ “Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.” rip matt

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BibleGuy YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 329 Thanks: 137 Thanked 136 Times in 85 Posts	Wild stuff. Those Mandelbulb zooms look like life forms... kinda like coral formations. Anyone ever "see" geometric shapes during meditation? Golden ratio or other?

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Mescalito Space Cadet Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 6,146 Thanks: 638 Thanked 679 Times in 347 Posts	I see them everywhere. M __________________ Jungle Monkey

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