vickyyy?

Some people think there are different races because of evolution or climate. I have my own thoughts, but I would really like to hear peoples' opinions on how races formed in the world.

Flamingnun

People's general racial phenotypes reflect the environment they were accustomed to living in, in the days before we all had double glazing and central heating. People in areas with high UV intensity have darker skin, people evolved in colder harsher climates have narrower eyes, i,e: Inuit's. It's (or was) all evolutionary.

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Grieves

I really want to hear your thoughts on the matter....

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The Rev

God invented different races so we would know who's superior and who's inferior. It's in the bible.



The Rev

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Captdoug713

I go with science. My buddy's church thinks that.^^

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vickyyy?

I think we all began as one family, which is also in the bible. The family got bigger and bigger over a huge period of time and people started spreading out to different places. That's why I think people in different regions all generally look alike. And I don't completely believe the evolution theory because Africans have wide nostrils, but they live on a huge dirt pile in the heat. Europeans have narrow nostrils, but they live in a giant pile of snow.
That's my general idea, but what I can't explain is that if this were true there would be a whole lot of genetic malfunctions.

Captdoug713

Watch the news lately?

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vickyyy?

Nope. I don't think Nancy Grace counts.

The Rev

Seriously?

I find it unfortunate, but mildly amusing, when people actually believe shit I would just make up for lulz.



The Rev

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Sir-Ex

If evolution happens because of the environment a species lives in over time, and africans and europeans are defined because of their location and race, then the fact that their physicalities are different and unique to their location should suggest that evolution has caused this.

If we were all one family to begin with, each branch of the family has evolved over hundreds of thousands of years as it spread out. And if it was one family there probably were huge amounts of genetic malfunctions, there's just been enough generations since that our species (or big extended family if you want to believe it was a single family to begin with..which is possible) has rediversified.




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Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

Sugar420

i think its evolution. it seems the same to me as different "races" of birds or kinds of flowers.
its interesting that different colored birds can co-exist with no problem, but humans cant

Flamingnun

So in summary, in laymans, the "one big family" is a species, and races are subspecies. Science 1 - Religion 0

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Sir-Ex

It's partially because I think by different 'races' of birds you might be thinking different species. Even different types of duck are technically different species because they cant interbreed.

What's interesting about humans are there are no other 'types' of humans. What is even more interesting is that there used to be. I suppose our big happy family er.. annihilated most of them.. that's one theory

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Sugar420

but science is only a description and study of God's works

as to birds: well yes i mean it both ways. but i have different races of chickadees and woodpeckers where i live, so that counts as races

verklingen

well the thing about genetics is that traits can be kept around simply because they aren't detrimental enough to one's reproductive prospects. or these traits could be considered especially attractive to potential mates and spread that way. selection isn't always about function.

all the genetic evidence suggests that there was a single woman living in africa some 200,000 years ago who passed her mitochondrial dna on to every person living today. since then the expansion and resulting isolation caused groups to diverge genetically somewhat by keeping genetic mutations within the group. by whatever means, some of the traits that grew from these mutations came to be selected for and became predominant within the group. but subsequent mixing was innevitable and no group has ever remained completely isolated for more than a couple thousand years.

in the end race is a purely social construct that can never be adequately defined, but oh man have people tried. there's just so much overlap between all the "races" that any measurements one would make (a favorite was cephalic index, which is the ratio of a skull's maximum width and maximum length) end up meaning nothing on a case-by-case basis. races are nothing more or less than what you make of them. i for one am proud to be part of a most beautifully diverse species

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FourtySecondRip

farther you get from the equator the less melanin u need to survive the suns radiation

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flappy

Thou shall not commit adultery.

To adulterate means to dilute (look it up). It was referring to intermarriage . . not cheating on your wife. Did the bible have it's reasons for teaching against " race mixing " ? That's for the Yahookan intellectuals to decide.


" Let the room decide ! "

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hijabihippie

"Race is an artificial construct."
--Henry Louis Gates, Jr.

Flamingnun

It's really not though.

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verklingen

well our current understanding of biology lends no support to our historical understanding of race. so if biology is "natural" and humans make "artificial" things then yes, it is very much artificial in that it is a social phenomenon. people label people racially. it's totally subjective

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