Mr.E

Can something( an idea, gesture, anything, ect.) be both 100% comical and 100% genuine at the same time?

Hope this makes sense. To me the question makes sense, but i'm not really sure on an answer yet.

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verklingen

genuine in what sense?

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Mr.E

Sorry, i phrased that poorly. Genuine in the sense that the following question should help illustrate what i mean when i say "Can something( an idea, gesture, anything, ect.) be both 100% comical and 100% genuine at the same time?".

Can something be both 100% genuine and 100% comical at the same time?

Hope this makes sense. To me the question makes sense, but i'm not really sure on an answer yet.

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Waves

uh yeah, watch any good comedian

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Mr.E

Here's one that maybe makes some actually sense.

To people who claim to be logical thinkers:

• Should one do what they want, even when they find the action to be illogical, but still alluring?

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turmaline

people do that shit all the time

Mr.E

Sorry; i put the wrong question again. here's a challenge:

• Why should one do what they want, even when they find the action to be illogical, but still alluring?

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Sugar420

because there are realms of validity that go beyond logical: instinctual and intuitive for 2 examples

turmaline

brb.

Mr.E

so, then by acting on instinct or intuition against logic, the simple act of doing makes the illogical logical?

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Sugar420

valid, not logical... but doing just for the sake of doing isnt necessarily valid in all cases

The Rev

Often times, the reason something is as funny as it is, is because it is true.



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BibleGuy

I don't think we can always equate logic with rightness or genuineness. Logic is a mental/process thing. Instinctive or intuitive things can be right/genuine while seeming completely illogical.

JcP

Because that's what makes us Humans and not Vulcans.

In effect, you're asking why do people follow their heart instead of their brains sometimes?

and the answer to that is that we are dual creatures. Without illogical behavior we would never fall in love, go on adventures, or even eat those amazing french fries.

In fact, illogical action is often the MOST alluring because it's outside of the bounds of what we "should" do.

Sometimes we are Adam and listen to our Father...but sometimes we are Eve and...Goddamn it, I know I might get in trouble, but I wanna know what all the fucking fuss is about with this APPLE!


and as for comedy...all true comedy is genuine. The reason something is funny is because we recognize it as truthful in form or function and identify with it. Watching someone get kicked in the nuts is funny because we know what that person is feeling. Its GENUINE PAIN.

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Originally Posted by The Rev It's not what you see, it's that you're looking.

verklingen

welcome back Jcp, always a pleasure

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Debaser

No need to overthink this one, the answer is very simple...because they want to. Think about it.

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The_Jester

Most decisions are made on an emotional basis. A perfect example of this is the economy. Most people don't buy logical things, look in anyone's shopping cart.

We live in an interesting age were there is far less "need", and a lot more "want". So in our spare time from acquiring that which we need, we play a sort of emotional sorcery. I do it too. It's okay to be irrational at certain points, it's quite alright to act out of emotions, it keeps the art and spiritual side alive(though there is a 'dark'-side as well, much like every other powerful thing). If you try and calculate everything around you, you will quickly realize one moment of living requires a hundred life-times to calculate, if not more.

The key is balance if you ask me, have healthy irrational feelings and actions, and have healthy rational feelings and actions. Acknowledge and cherish the paradigm.

To get a little more spacey on this topic though. Who is to say instinct isn't logical? Last time I checked, nobody knows exactly why we're here, or what we're supposed to be doing. Perhaps instinct is a logical path or maybe even a spiritual path. It's not my own, but who is to say?

ziplock

Why should one not do what they want, even when they find the action to be illogical, even fatally dangerous, but still alluring?

Why should one bound their actions and behaviors by a thing like logic? In the end, logic, reason, these are mental concepts that apply certain parameters, prerequisites, and values, to the processes taking place in the mind. It's an acquired or learned mechanism. The human being, the motivators, inspirations, etc, are of complex, abstract nature along with the definite. If anything for most the definite, or logical, aspect of our decision making processes occurs secondarily to our abstract, emotional, "illogical" aspect.

I find myself to be very logical, very reasonable in my thoughts. However, spontaneous nights of adventure that lead to great personal developments and advancements in self-conceived awareness are typically pulled into reality by a deep inner drive, one that goes really beyond the logic, beyond the society, beyond the individual, and carries you away. That submission, and not being restricted by perhaps logical thoughts, has probably offered me far more than my logical impulses. So, in that sense, I guess that is why I would do something I want even though it's illogical.

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