Štulic

just haven't seen him yet, maybe?
Because they haven't been looking for him I think.

It's always the same story with every radically religious person I know, every single one of them had this "God" or with the Christians the "Jesus experience", conveniently always during the hardest time in their lives. It's either a divorce or opiate/alcohol withdrawal.

My dad is 73 now and he was an agnostic since he could think, but now when he feels his eternal life is slowly reaching its end, he's grasping for the Justin Case's straw. He told me I know there is no God who waits for me and who's gonna judge my past life and he doesn't believe in "life after death", but he said what if?

I told him straight as he would expect from me, dad there is no God, when you die you will feel jack shit, all the feelings and the pain is going to stay here with me, your children, family, people who love you...

God is just a piece of invented shit that obviously can be very useful for a lot of troubled people. It's sort of like a handrail while you try to climb back up from the bottom of the well of life, only in your head.

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Mafoo

its been said that religion is the opiate of the masses

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For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

Bearsy

Regardless of going to church every Sunday from birth to age 18 I knew that there was no god since age 10. I had an epiphany in Sunday school one day, got in trouble for voicing said epiphany and had to sit in the church with my parents for the next month.
But I have to admit that sometimes when shit gets really bad I might throw a prayer out into the universe once in a while.
Logically I know it won't actually do anything, but it can't hurt to play any card I may have, no matter how far-fetched. But I definitely understand and agree with where you're coming from

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Štulic

Yeah my friend be prepared the older you get the more you'll pray, no matter how illogical unnatural or absurd it might seam, you'll pray because they thought you to

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my_scatterheart

People spend their entire lives praying to these all-mighty-gods.
I've met my creators. And I do my best to do right by them, and love them, and make them proud in everything I do. I don't have problems with people that feel the need to please a god, but I can't say I understand the need to spend so much time on someone I've never met. There are so many around me I have the ability to be kind to. So many I can see through their darkest day.
I'd rather spend my energy there.

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yo.

good thread already

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The Rev

I am God.

and so are You.



The Rev

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SageTree

I think of 'alms to god' being living in thankfulness, awakening and getting of my ass to co-create this 'creation' I'm part of.

'God' in my mind is more of a verb-ness, creation creates constantly as ending becomes beginning. A Monty Python hand squash from the MAN up stairs isn't my bag for understanding my life.



HAHAHAH or a save for that matter!!!

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Dantastic

opium is the opiate of the masses, duh

farmergiles

Prayer is a form of transcendental meditation and

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hijabihippie

"Thou art God!"
--Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger In A Strange Land, 1961

kamikazi89

for me... it was always purely intellectual early on..as opposed to emotional..which in my case manifests itself mainly through a rejection of authority and violence

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The_Jester

The word god seems extraneous to me at times. I worship unity I guess, amongst all things(panthiesm), that is my creator, my savior, to what I visibly owe my life too. This place right here right now, with everything. Only all together is this place full of beauty imo. Not one form can exist without another, so how can one form(a god) be praised over all others?

If forms themselves are empty(empty as in everything is reliant on another in order to exist). Not one thing can exist without another, that is the only rule in the universe that I have not found an exception for. Nor do I expect too. I still remain skeptical of all my believes, I think that's my personal duty for holding on to them. That sentiment along with several others(from my limited research) makes me admire and try to follow the buddhist philosophy in daily life.

If you believe in your god, see your god, know your god, well then may your god bless you. If you don't then I hope you can still find faith in the universe around you and do the best you can for all the things that you cross paths with.

I like philosophy and religion but dogmas are a symptom of egocentrism, which is an irrational conclusion derived from an over active ego. If a belief was one size fit's all, then everyone would think the same. No one does, we're all unique to our own life experiences.

I used to believe "Finding god" was about age, maturity, or some ailment being magically cured or something. At least until it happened to me, well not god, but faith.

I think if anything my "finding faith" experience was a manageable means to allow myself to flow with or channel phenomenon that ordinarily hung me up and left me road weary. I don't live by legends though, I live by lessons.

To each their own, either way this moment is a stepping stone, there's no skipping ahead without getting wet(or drowning in possibilities). So be mindful of your steps as your crossing the moody river that is life. Maybe I'm humble, maybe I'm a fool, but I don't think there's anyway to know what the other side of the shore is like, until we get there.

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When you ask the question you find that there aren't as many people who don't believe in god as you think...


Just not your god maybe.


It comes from within, there need be no physical manifestation, therefore you can't say that I'm wrong for not believing as you do.




Imagine how nice it would be if we could all get over that hump.

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SmokeaJoint

I was raised in a Christian house, but since I've never had an earnest prayer answered, or seen/felt any other sign of a greater power. I figured, if I wanted something in life I had better stop wasting time whispering at the sky and go get it done myself. Not trying to dog on anyone else's beliefs, but thats how it is for me.

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SageTree

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SAJ: What you wrote made me think of this and how we are personally responsible for doing the right thing, whether from 'God' or 'Self or however you want to carve it up I volunteer with a lot of people who are like the italicized part and it really bums me out when they don't open a phone book for a number instead of saying 'pray about it'. "May the power of Christ compel you", as they say aka. 'Get off thine ass', spoketh God to the Prophet Sage Tree

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kamikazi89

deeds and words, god not necessary

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SageTree

Well yea, I see what you are saying. But for instance in Buddhism the faith is in the words of the Buddha, who isn't a god, but a man with a good practice for awaking and liberations from suffering. Not ethereal crap at all and that Cat Buddha hardly ever is found saying too much about God and sometimes is flat out against it. It's agreed that he usually took a stance to shift a person's thinking, over drawing absolutes on the Absolute.

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Buddha was my kind of cat...

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