Life on other planets...

SmokeaJoint · 08-11-2010, 01:14 PM

I saw a show on Science Channel this afternoon called The planets, it was about how science is looking for planets around other stars and the frequency of earth-like planets in the universe.

YouTube - ‪1999 The Planets : Destiny 1 of 5‬&lrm;

My thought being, if we do indeed discover life on other planets, that would have to at least re-write our view and understanding of god. Imagine we contact an alien civilization,with them likely having no concept of religion as we know it. Or if their science has advanced and they can conclusively prove a scientific origin of the universe?

Thoughts, anyone?

The Rev · 08-11-2010, 03:15 PM

I don't think we'll ever meet aliens. We might find evidence of them, in the form of radio signals and the like, but given the vast distances involved, and the dangers to both them and us, the chances of an actual face to face meeting, let alone sharing of cultures, etc. is highly unlikely.

The Rev

SmokeaJoint · 08-11-2010, 03:19 PM

That's true, but i think via those same signals we could communicate with them. Eventually we would get around to asking "So where do you go to church?"

The_Jester · 08-12-2010, 10:27 AM

I'm 75/25 on the ancient astronomer theory. If you haven't ever seen chariots of the gods(good intro flick on google videos), or the vast other movies or read any lit on it I highly recommend it.

There are structures on earth made well before the bronze age, with stone and metal cut to laser precision. Not to mention the solid, one piece, 80+ ton obelisks that where moved in one peice, set up right, and carved that have stood and lasted thousands of years. Or the easter island statues. Or who knows maybe even the great pyramids/sphynx(dating suggests it's been around possibly before the ice-age shown by erosion at the base).

Then look at the bible. God created man in his image from the rib of, etc(genetic engineering?). Izekial saw a burning wheel in the sky.

kinda weird, I mean 1350, but weird, eh?

Speaking of genetic engineering...Where is that missing link? Why do all of our ancestors found before a certain date mimic that of primates but not of man. What else would be the catalyst for such a change in activities, knowledge, and even our composition? I can't assume any aside from "evolution" which I do believe in, but there certainly seems to be a fast-forward time-span for it according to what we know about our history today.

Out of nowere the egyptians and mayans all got struck with great knowledge. Egypt has the first functional battery artifact(how long before Franklin discovered electricity?). What was the great golden ark used for? Was it a communication tool, an electrical power source, or just a decoration with such a strange composition?

Why is there chambers in egyptian temples where if you stand near you can hear your heart beat amplified loudly? I believe it was the mayans who also had a sculpture of almost a perfect "lunar lander" or rocket(see chariots of the gods). Egyptians and mayans and even possibly other cultures have been alerted to DNA and it's hypothesized it is depicted metaphorically as the two snakes swirling around each other in tandom(Ironically a vision commonly seen in ayahuasca voyages, I have even seen this as well as other similar ones). This symbology is usually used to reference medicine. Kind of a weird coincedence I suppose.

It's kind of funny too because of how many genetic issues homosapiens have as compared to other species. I'd look up the stats but this will bore you enough as it is.

Speaking of egyptians -

Quote:

"This object was found at Saqqara, Egypt. This flying machine (space ship, UFO?) is portrayed in Ancient Egyptian paintings on walls and hieroglyphics. The spiral on each side of the UFO object is a universal shape and the most common geometrical shape in the universe. To put this symbol on this plane (space ship, UFO?) could signify exploration of the universe and the placement could depict an understanding of the outer space. It looks like a plane (UFO) of some sort, as does the object above. Perhaps this was a space ship once used in the atmosphere of a planet. A UFO of this disc type was probably used to enter outer space, however this plane type could also possibly exit into outer space. The aerodynamics might be more suitable in an atmospheric environment, such as the use of airplanes to fly in the sky, as opposed to the space shuttle and outer space travel. Something to think about anyway."

Ever look into the "cargo cult" phenomonon? This would explain this artifact quite well to say the least. PS you ever seen king tut's head? It's shaped like an alien, but still within "human range proportions", however, there is no sign of bondage or altering done unnaturally. Your not gonna like this if your not a believer.

Also the fact that Egyptians worshipped the "stars" and the great pyramid(it could be another pyramid but I'm 80% sure its the great pyramid) had 2 shafts that at the time pointed directly to two different constellations. Kind of a lot of work considering you can see the stars perfectly standing outside I personally feel. Well I guess it made for a nice tomb for a fellow as well, but once again, alot of work for one persons grave and seeing the stars from inside.

edit -

ever hear of the nacza lines/sculptures? http://www.crystalinks.com/nazca.html

I think it's ignorant to rule out the possibilities of extra terrestrial visitation. I've got more to say but I'll shut up because this is TL;DR and everyone has their own reality bubble in which they see the world/it's creation.

yo. · 08-12-2010, 01:39 PM

Very interesting my man. I'd like you to keep going.
Its very relevant.

That's very convincing, the part about aliens being the connection of evolution...
And Tut's head... mind = blown

Grieves · 08-12-2010, 01:45 PM

Life is out there, they just saw all that they needed and moved on...

Blunt Trama · 08-12-2010, 01:58 PM

I often wonder how intelligent life evolves on other planets. Say for example, that there is a planet somewhere out there like this one, but only with one continent, with one race of beings, that never had international differences, war, etc like we've had. How would they turn out opposed to us? Would they be more enlightened? Smarter? Or would they be prejudice and hateful towards others that aren't of their kind.

It's really intriguing.

hijabihippie · 08-13-2010, 09:16 AM

I think it's possible that's what this planet was like at one time in the very distant past, because when I look at a map of the world, it seems to me that the continents fit together like pieces of a puzzle, for example South America fits very neatly next to Africa.

The Rev · 08-13-2010, 11:40 AM

Pangaea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Rev

Debaser · 08-13-2010, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blunt Trama

I often wonder how intelligent life evolves on other planets. Say for example, that there is a planet somewhere out there like this one, but only with one continent, with one race of beings, that never had international differences, war, etc like we've had. How would they turn out opposed to us? Would they be more enlightened? Smarter? Or would they be prejudice and hateful towards others that aren't of their kind.

It's really intriguing.

This has crossed my mind alot too, usually when I'm watching Star Trek. Have you ever noticed that all the aliens in star trek are the same? I mean, Klingons are Klingons, Andorians are Andorians, etc...you typically don't see aliens from the same planet with radically different features and such like you do here on earth (white, asian, african, etc). Of course, Trek is fiction, but you get the point.

I would think a "singular" race would probably be both highly curious about anyone different from them, and at the same time highly cautious, as they would have no idea how to interact with anyone outside their own race.

kamikazi89 · 08-14-2010, 06:38 AM

the whole radio thing is really just wishfull thinking

SmokeaJoint · 08-16-2010, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jester

I'm 75/25 on the ancient astronomer theory. If you haven't ever seen chariots of the gods(good intro flick on google videos), or the vast other movies or read any lit on it I highly recommend it.

There are structures on earth made well before the bronze age, with stone and metal cut to laser precision. Not to mention the solid, one piece, 80+ ton obelisks that where moved in one peice, set up right, and carved that have stood and lasted thousands of years. Or the easter island statues. Or who knows maybe even the great pyramids/sphynx(dating suggests it's been around possibly before the ice-age shown by erosion at the base).

Then look at the bible. God created man in his image from the rib of, etc(genetic engineering?). Izekial saw a burning wheel in the sky.

kinda weird, I mean 1350, but weird, eh?

Speaking of genetic engineering...Where is that missing link? Why do all of our ancestors found before a certain date mimic that of primates but not of man. What else would be the catalyst for such a change in activities, knowledge, and even our composition? I can't assume any aside from "evolution" which I do believe in, but there certainly seems to be a fast-forward time-span for it according to what we know about our history today.

Out of nowere the egyptians and mayans all got struck with great knowledge. Egypt has the first functional battery artifact(how long before Franklin discovered electricity?). What was the great golden ark used for? Was it a communication tool, an electrical power source, or just a decoration with such a strange composition?

Why is there chambers in egyptian temples where if you stand near you can hear your heart beat amplified loudly? I believe it was the mayans who also had a sculpture of almost a perfect "lunar lander" or rocket(see chariots of the gods). Egyptians and mayans and even possibly other cultures have been alerted to DNA and it's hypothesized it is depicted metaphorically as the two snakes swirling around each other in tandom(Ironically a vision commonly seen in ayahuasca voyages, I have even seen this as well as other similar ones). This symbology is usually used to reference medicine. Kind of a weird coincedence I suppose.

It's kind of funny too because of how many genetic issues homosapiens have as compared to other species. I'd look up the stats but this will bore you enough as it is.

Speaking of egyptians -

Ever look into the "cargo cult" phenomonon? This would explain this artifact quite well to say the least. PS you ever seen king tut's head? It's shaped like an alien, but still within "human range proportions", however, there is no sign of bondage or altering done unnaturally. Your not gonna like this if your not a believer.

Also the fact that Egyptians worshipped the "stars" and the great pyramid(it could be another pyramid but I'm 80% sure its the great pyramid) had 2 shafts that at the time pointed directly to two different constellations. Kind of a lot of work considering you can see the stars perfectly standing outside I personally feel. Well I guess it made for a nice tomb for a fellow as well, but once again, alot of work for one persons grave and seeing the stars from inside.

edit -

ever hear of the nacza lines/sculptures? Nazca Lines and Cahuachi Culture - Crystalinks

I think it's ignorant to rule out the possibilities of extra terrestrial visitation. I've got more to say but I'll shut up because this is TL;DR and everyone has their own reality bubble in which they see the world/it's creation.

Yeah man, oddly enough I've been privy to much of what you posted. The King Tut thing, that's new to me but hell... We talked about the Egyptian UFO thing in Art History last semester, pretty crazy. I think the whole origin of man thing is fascinating, and I hope we figure it out sometime soon.

Look into the Mayan ruins, Machu Piccu and all that. A lot of the stonework, the cut, geometry, and precision, all that is hella hard, even with modern tech and tools. I mean, they have inset square imprints, descending in size, delved out of the stone with micro precision. Some of the edges on the carvings, they're still sharp enough to slice you even after all this time. Either the Ancients had some bad ass magic going down or aliens were helping out.

kamikazi89 · 08-16-2010, 09:43 PM

hard but not impossible(obviously )

seriously. life on other plaNETS, A GOOD POSSIBILTY

the chances it's anything like ours: extremely remote) although the astronaut theory goes places i like

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The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,865 Thanks: 5,018 Thanked 5,420 Times in 2,865 Posts	I don't think we'll ever meet aliens. We might find evidence of them, in the form of radio signals and the like, but given the vast distances involved, and the dangers to both them and us, the chances of an actual face to face meeting, let alone sharing of cultures, etc. is highly unlikely. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

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yo. Controversial Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SOCAL Posts: 1,160 Thanks: 676 Thanked 202 Times in 143 Posts	Very interesting my man. I'd like you to keep going. Its very relevant. That's very convincing, the part about aliens being the connection of evolution... And Tut's head... mind = blown __________________ "God" is an alien and we all came from another galaxy as an expansion of our specie's existence.

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Blunt Trama YaHookan Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I often wonder how intelligent life evolves on other planets. Say for example, that there is a planet somewhere out there like this one, but only with one continent, with one race of beings, that never had international differences, war, etc like we've had. How would they turn out opposed to us? Would they be more enlightened? Smarter? Or would they be prejudice and hateful towards others that aren't of their kind. It's really intriguing.

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hijabihippie YaHookan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,481 Thanks: 1,152 Thanked 655 Times in 515 Posts	I think it's possible that's what this planet was like at one time in the very distant past, because when I look at a map of the world, it seems to me that the continents fit together like pieces of a puzzle, for example South America fits very neatly next to Africa.

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