fenderbender

How do you guys feel about this? The majority of the people on this earth think extremely narrowly, accepting what they are told.

i honestly believe certain doses of certain awesome chemicals can at the very least show a person that there is more out there. opens minds to other possibilities.

Once you get the process started in their heads, it evolves from there.


Think what acid did to the 60's. It created a huge counter culture, minds began to question what they were being told...and they didnt like it.

I believe that a large scale Dosing of people should be done. Yea there might be some ill effects, but i feel like the good it would do would outweigh it.

Get a large number of people to undergo an intense DMT and MAOI trip, and what would evolve from that. People have had enough time to wake the fuck up and we have failed.

operation WAKE THE FUCK UP begin

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fenderbender

Just so you guys know, im totally serious about this.


I need help though. ..

People accept what they have been told. Problem is that they have been lied to.

A dosing of Dimethyltryptamine would begin the process of questioning what they know By Force. The mental process of questioning would evolve from there.

A large scale awakening.

ima probally gonna end up in Gitmo for this.

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farmergiles

Forcing people to take DMT against their wishes will generally result in them having a bad time and learning very little.

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fenderbender

some people sure...


but look at it like this, when people have a near death experiences, they do do so on purpose. Yet these experience usually cause the person who had it to re-evaluate their lives.

Sure some will suffer, but i believe the overall awakening would outweigh the damages done.

people will suffer one way or another, Either they are forced into waking up or we shall all die.

The world would wake up if an asteroid was heading for the earth, but by then it will be too late and we will be doomed. This way we can wake up the masses with no real danger of death, just the seemingly real.

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osirus2020

Maybe people think so narrowly because it's all their minds are capable of. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

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hijabihippie

"And if it's been dipped in polyurethane, even throwing it into the trough head first won't make it absorb a single drop."

With a tip o' the hat to my partner, who is the source for this quote.

hijabihippie

"Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time & annoys the pig."
--source unknown

farmergiles

I thought of this also.

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Parallax

giving people drugs without their permission or desire is not very nice. some people dont want to open their mind that far because its scary down there in the rabbit hole, its not for you to decide. i took a peek once and it scared the shit out of me and thats why im never ever gonna do psychedlic drugs ever again.

how would you feel if i decided you needed too closed minded about gay anal sex and slipped some ghb in your drink and then proceeded to open you mind?

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The Rev

People are creatures of habit, both in their behavior, and in their thinking. The only way to change this is to 1) make people aware of it, which is something you can control, and 2) if THEY care AND THEN choose to act in some way to change it. IOW, you cannot make the world a better place by force, ever, even if you know exactly what needs to be done to make it so.



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OldMan&TheWeed

It's already been done:


In 1951, a quiet, picturesque village in southern France was suddenly and mysteriously struck down with mass insanity and hallucinations. At least five people died, dozens were interned in asylums and hundreds afflicted.

For decades it was assumed that the local bread had been unwittingly poisoned with a psychedelic mould. Now, however, an American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part of a mind control experiment at the height of the Cold War.



The mystery of Le Pain Maudit (Cursed Bread) still haunts the inhabitants of Pont-Saint-Esprit, in the Gard, southeast France.

On August 16, 1951, the inhabitants were suddenly racked with frightful hallucinations of terrifying beasts and fire.

One man tried to drown himself, screaming that his belly was being eaten by snakes. An 11-year-old tried to strangle his grandmother. Another man shouted: "I am a plane", before jumping out of a second-floor window, breaking his legs. He then got up and carried on for 50 yards. Another saw his heart escaping through his feet and begged a doctor to put it back. Many were taken to the local asylum in strait jackets.

Time magazine wrote at the time: "Among the stricken, delirium rose: patients thrashed wildly on their beds, screaming that red flowers were blossoming from their bodies, that their heads had turned to molten lead."

Eventually, it was determined that the best-known local baker had unwittingly contaminated his flour with ergot, a hallucinogenic mould that infects rye grain. Another theory was the bread had been poisoned with organic mercury.

However, H P Albarelli Jr., an investigative journalist, claims the outbreak resulted from a covert experiment directed by the CIA and the US Army's top-secret Special Operations Division (SOD) at Fort Detrick, Maryland.

The scientists who produced both alternative explanations, he writes, worked for the Swiss-based Sandoz Pharmaceutical Company, which was then secretly supplying both the Army and CIA with LSD.

Mr Albarelli came across CIA documents while investigating the suspicious suicide of Frank Olson, a biochemist working for the SOD who fell from a 13th floor window two years after the Cursed Bread incident. One note transcribes a conversation between a CIA agent and a Sandoz official who mentions the "secret of Pont-Saint-Esprit" and explains that it was not "at all" caused by mould but by diethylamide, the D in LSD.

While compiling his book, A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments, Mr Albarelli spoke to former colleagues of Mr Olson, two of whom told him that the Pont-Saint-Esprit incident was part of a mind control experiment run by the CIA and US army.

After the Korean War the Americans launched a vast research programme into the mental manipulation of prisoners and enemy troops.

Scientists at Fort Detrick told him that agents had sprayed LSD into the air and also contaminated "local foot products".

Mr Albarelli said the real "smoking gun" was a White House document sent to members of the Rockefeller Commission formed in 1975 to investigate CIA abuses. It contained the names of a number of French nationals who had been secretly employed by the CIA and made direct reference to the "Pont St. Esprit incident." In its quest to research LSD as an offensive weapon, Mr Albarelli claims, the US army also drugged over 5,700 unwitting American servicemen between 1953 and 1965.

None of his sources would indicate whether the French secret services were aware of the alleged operation. According to US news reports, French intelligence chiefs have demanded the CIA explain itself following the book's revelations. French intelligence officially denies this.

Locals in Pont-Saint-Esprit still want to know why they were hit by such apocalyptic scenes. "At the time people brought up the theory of an experiment aimed at controlling a popular revolt," said Charles Granjoh, 71.

"I almost kicked the bucket," he told the weekly French magazine Les Inrockuptibles. "I'd like to know why."



French bread spiked with LSD in CIA experiment - Telegraph

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fenderbender

i understand the flaws in my plan...

but

Any one got a better idea?

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SmokeaJoint

Kill your neighbor, then kill yourself. If everyone does this, problem solved.

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BibleGuy

The reverse is already being done against people's wills, or... without their knowledge. Example: Fluoride - mass-medication via water for "healthy teeth". Fluoride collects in the Pineal gland and causes calcification. In other words it helps to keep the third eye closed, blind, ignorant... and thus, people, asleep. Someone in power knew this when water fluoridation was conceived of. This is like putting an innocent man in shakels in order to subjugate him. Fluoride is a hidden shakel covertly administered via deceitful means. It is a mass-keep-em-asleep (third eye closed) effort - oppressive and evil.

• YouTube - Fluoride and The Pineal Gland

• Fluoride & the Pineal Gland
• Fluoride & the Reproductive System

You're suggesting mass-awakening of people via DMT and MAOI (ayahuasca) "who are not yet ready to be unplugged" as Morpheus would say. But it seems, as demonstrated by OldMan&TheWeed's post, that unplugging people by force when their not ready, have not personally chosen to do so and perhaps have zero perspective with which to interpret forced "awakening"... may go absolutely insane. They don't understand what's happening and they flip out. This is not helpful, and it would only be used by the current "authorities" to reinforce the idea that all psycotropic "drugs" are bad/evil, especially plants.

You mean well, fenderbender. I'm sure that most of us here can see that.

turmaline

Isn't it called "Manipulation?"

The Rev

Filtering water for fluoride would be a waste of time, considering how many non-water sources there are. Everything from cigarettes to breakfast cereals contain fluoride.



The Rev

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BibleGuy

You're right, Rev. I'm wasn't meaning to push filtration. That's just part of the video. I thought the pre-filtration Pineal portion was informative.