Just go with me on this one for a second...

José · 09-25-2010, 05:56 PM

Watch this, then refer to the bottom.

http://i.imgur.com/ekTX1.gif

So basically the only reason we haven't and probably won't find life anywhere near us is because we are living in a very short time frame compared to the rest of the universe?

What do you guys think about this animation?

yo. · 09-25-2010, 06:03 PM

The end?....

Sounds damn reasonable, I believe it.

But I also believe that we will find other intelligent beings before our extinction

SmokeaJoint · 09-25-2010, 06:18 PM

Think about a star 2 million light years away. If there were any intelligent species looking at Earth, all they would see is pre-historic jungles. No people, no buildings, nothin. So why even bother contacting us? We don't even exist yet.

Kompressor · 09-25-2010, 06:32 PM

Voyager and Voyager II are predicted to last a billion years in the void of space, if not longer.

Our electromagnetic TV/Radio waves are already reaching our nearest neighbors, and they're only getting stronger.

Even if we don't make contact, evidence of our existence is already out there.

and most likely, anyone able to contact us probably has some sense of warping spacetime.

Also as the sun expands, given the slow pace of it all and the rapid, extremophile evolution, who's to say life can't keep pace?

In other words, who knows?

SmokeaJoint · 09-25-2010, 07:02 PM

All I'm saying is, that evidence that is "out there" has barely gotten anywhere, galactically speaking. None of our transmissions can travel faster than light speed, and all the stars within their current reach are pretty much lifeless. Einsteins theory of Relativity an all. I'm sure theres other life out there, the odds are in favor at least. However, we haven't even become a blip on the radar so to speak. Give us another thousand or so years, maybe our signals will have reached somewhere sentient by then.

José · 09-26-2010, 01:49 AM

I'm not necessarily talking about extraterrestrial life. I'm just trying to grasp where we are on the universe's timeline. Just trying to imagine everything that's lived before and will live after our time, not necessarily on earth. I bet star wars has actually happened at one point or another. One species against another fighting with technology. The universe is so big there could be a "universe war" going on right now and we wouldn't even know it.

But as someone else mentioned, anywhere other life could potentially be, the light just getting to them still shows prehistoric time... hahah so funny to think about.

profit · 09-26-2010, 04:43 AM

this is what kept me up at night as a child..

"mom, if god made the universe then who made god?"

i believe it was a black abyss in the beginning us and it will be after.

**~~stateofkane~~** · 09-26-2010, 09:41 AM

"Human life will likely still exist" 1.1 billion yrs from now? That's a generous prediction, although the slide's theory on the sun is what I accept as probable.

I would give humans 50,000 years, 250-300K tops, insects for millions more and before 1 billion end of all life on Earth. A billion more years for people doesn't seem to be a well accepted theory, even among optimists...

SmokeaJoint · 09-26-2010, 09:44 AM

We are definitely doing a fine job of slowly killing ourselves for sure. However, I like to think the human race will finally learn from its past and become enlightened to a more stable existence. If we keep going like we are today, SoK isn't too far off base.

**~~stateofkane~~** · 09-26-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeaJoint

We are definitely doing a fine job of slowly killing ourselves for sure. However, I like to think the human race will finally learn from its past and become enlightened to a more stable existence. If we keep going like we are today, SoK isn't too far off base.

I don't think it matters too much to be honest. If we worked together collectively or not, natural disasters took out the dinosaurs, and will take us out too, like the little bitches we are.

SmokeaJoint · 09-26-2010, 09:58 AM

We are a good deal more intelligent that some primordial lizard. Recall, the mammals survived the disaster(s) that claimed the dinos.

**~~stateofkane~~** · 09-26-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeaJoint

We are a good deal more intelligent that some primordial lizard. Recall, the mammals survived the disaster(s) that claimed the dinos.

Intelligence has nothing to do with it.

Bearsy · 09-27-2010, 12:40 AM

José · 09-28-2010, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by allPROFIT

this is what kept me up at night as a child..

"mom, if god made the universe then who made god?"

i believe it was a black abyss in the beginning us and it will be after.

lol how does that pertain to this?

You're talking about God or no God? I'm talking about time. I don't really understand what you're trying to say.

SmokeaJoint · 09-28-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stateofkane

Intelligence has nothing to do with it.

Maybe not for you, but for the rest of the human race, thats how we became dominant. All other species, if a giant asteroid was gonna strike Earth they'd be SOL, but we would just fire up some rockets and jump ship. Hell, we would likely destroy the rock or veer it off course for that matter. Next time, think a little before ya type.

José · 09-28-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeaJoint

Maybe not for you, but for the rest of the human race, thats how we became dominant. All other species, if a giant asteroid was gonna strike Earth they'd be SOL, but we would just fire up some rockets and jump ship. Hell, we would likely destroy the rock or veer it off course for that matter. Next time, think a little before ya type.

Actually, I agree with SoK. There could be creatures that are really smart but they don't have the ability to do certain things. What if dolphins and birds were more intelligent than us? They still wouldn't be able to make a microchip even if they knew how because they are physically incapable. I'm not saying this is reality, just saying it's possible.

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if a giant asteroid was gonna strike Earth they'd be SOL, but we would just fire up some rockets and jump ship.

Mind explaining to me how we would just "jump ship?" If a giant asteroid hit earth, the whole earth would be covered in ash for DAYS. There would be ash in the air 4 days later... What would we do? Get in an escape capsule and go to another earth-like planet? I don't think so... We'd be just as fucked as anything else.

SmokeaJoint · 09-28-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SpankyMcLankey

Actually, I agree with SoK. There could be creatures that are really smart but they don't have the ability to do certain things. What if dolphins and birds were more intelligent than us? They still wouldn't be able to make a microchip even if they knew how because they are physically incapable. I'm not saying this is reality, just saying it's possible.

How about, their microchip would be different in form that ours? Doesn't mean it would be inferior. Humans have learned to use tools, and if birds and dolphins had an identical skill, they would be as adept as us.

SmokeaJoint · 09-28-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SpankyMcLankey

Mind explaining to me how we would just "jump ship?" If a giant asteroid hit earth, the whole earth would be covered in ash for DAYS. There would be ash in the air 4 days later... What would we do? Get in an escape capsule and go to another earth-like planet? I don't think so... We'd be just as fucked as anything else.

You may stay here to be killed, but Imma hop on the first available rocket an try my luck elsewhere. We have the technology to terraform any planet providing they have a source of water. Mars would work ok, so would Jupiter's moon, Titan.

José · 09-28-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeaJoint

You may stay here to be killed, but Imma hop on the first available rocket an try my luck elsewhere. We have the technology to terraform any planet providing they have a source of water. Mars would work ok, so would Jupiter's moon, Titan.

you must have some pretty legit connections if you can get launched into space in a days notice.

SmokeaJoint · 09-28-2010, 04:27 PM

Nah but I also don't expect that people would just sit and wait to die. I would go to JSC, be with the rest of the mob as we push down the fences, take the Center over, and get the fuck outta here. C'mon, we would see a space disaster coming years away. thats pretty much the only catastophic event that would wipe the population. I live far enough from the coast to avoid water rising due to ice caps melting, if Nukes are the way we go I'm fucked, and if Yellowstone blows we will know waaay before it decides to go. Did I miss anything?

09-25-2010, 05:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,364 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	Just go with me on this one for a second... Watch this, then refer to the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/ekTX1.gif So basically the only reason we haven't and probably won't find life anywhere near us is because we are living in a very short time frame compared to the rest of the universe? What do you guys think about this animation?

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yo. Controversial Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SOCAL Posts: 1,160 Thanks: 676 Thanked 202 Times in 143 Posts	The end?.... Sounds damn reasonable, I believe it. But I also believe that we will find other intelligent beings before our extinction __________________ "God" is an alien and we all came from another galaxy as an expansion of our specie's existence.

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Kompressor Voice of Reason Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 8,361 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3,069 Times in 1,634 Posts	Voyager and Voyager II are predicted to last a billion years in the void of space, if not longer. Our electromagnetic TV/Radio waves are already reaching our nearest neighbors, and they're only getting stronger. Even if we don't make contact, evidence of our existence is already out there. and most likely, anyone able to contact us probably has some sense of warping spacetime. Also as the sun expands, given the slow pace of it all and the rapid, extremophile evolution, who's to say life can't keep pace? In other words, who knows? __________________ Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. -H. Bergson

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09-26-2010, 01:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
José YaHookan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,364 Thanks: 62 Thanked 147 Times in 72 Posts	I'm not necessarily talking about extraterrestrial life. I'm just trying to grasp where we are on the universe's timeline. Just trying to imagine everything that's lived before and will live after our time, not necessarily on earth. I bet star wars has actually happened at one point or another. One species against another fighting with technology. The universe is so big there could be a "universe war" going on right now and we wouldn't even know it. But as someone else mentioned, anywhere other life could potentially be, the light just getting to them still shows prehistoric time... hahah so funny to think about.

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~~stateofkane~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 557 Thanks: 20 Thanked 92 Times in 82 Posts	"Human life will likely still exist" 1.1 billion yrs from now? That's a generous prediction, although the slide's theory on the sun is what I accept as probable. I would give humans 50,000 years, 250-300K tops, insects for millions more and before 1 billion end of all life on Earth. A billion more years for people doesn't seem to be a well accepted theory, even among optimists...

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