Christian Gnosticism

scottishbastard · 03-20-2011, 01:46 AM

The last year I've been on a spiritual quest. I've been on my meds and my methadone and fianlly have the focus to read gnostic literature.

I recommend anyone to read the Nag Hammadi Libray, the apocryphal texts, and the gnostic gospels.

Currently I have a simplified version of the bible as wee as ab older king james versionm :The gnostic gospels of st thomas, st mary magdalene, and Gnosis of the cosmic christ all my Tau Malachi,

I've set up a gnostic shrine in my house with everything from buddha statues to large crossesl

The most interesting aspect of Gnosticism is firstly the male-female aspect of everything (i.e. god is the father mother, jesus's female counterpart to Logos is sophia etc.).

Secondly there is a strong idea that the God of the new testment is a perfect Gpd (the creator of all the as) but the god of the old testament was an imperfect and jealous God (the creator of the physical world), and our salvation is reliant on reaching "gnosis" a knowledge of cosmic origins. people like Jesus, buddha,mani,bodidhae mam john the baotist, set ecr were all sent "born" of the true father to spready Gnosis.

Qui-Bong Jinn · 03-20-2011, 06:43 AM

Both God's are assholes. Period.

**SageTree** · 03-20-2011, 10:37 AM

Sounds good, SB.

The Nag Lib. is really good stuff. I actually posted a video on the "Lost Gospel of Judas" in there the other day, maybe you'd enjoy it. While it's not a Nag text, it IS an early Christian-Gnostic text and is a pretty recent find, if I'm not mistaken.

turmaline · 03-20-2011, 10:41 AM

Sage.

**SageTree** · 03-20-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.T

Sage.

Whatchu' talking about Willis?

turmaline · 03-20-2011, 04:22 PM

Hey!

The Rev · 03-20-2011, 10:33 PM

I think the Abrahamic religions, be they Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, can all be broken down into two kinds of messages: 1)What the right way to live your life is, and 2)Why you should be scared shitless not to obey Messages #1. And much of the contradiction in the bible comes between #1 messages and #2 messages, and rarely between messages of the same kind.

For example: #1 "Thou Shalt Not Kill", but #2 "God ordered the Jews to kill every living thing in Canaan, men, women, children, even animals" Those who accepted the rules about how to live their lives correctly got to live, but others were subject to slaughter, sanctioned by the Lord.

But the problem is, I really think it's the #2 messages are what either drive people away from the Abrahamic religions, and therefore the benefit of the #1 messages, or it drives them to try and reinterpret the religions contained within.

It would be my advice to anyone to take a real leap of faith, and just consider the #1 messages while rejecting the fearmongering. I know you're supposed to be scared to do that, but that's why you have to have faith. I think the biblical tigers, much like the bible itself, are made of paper.

The Rev

Sugar420 · 03-20-2011, 11:03 PM

go back to bible class Rev, that was a terrible oversimplification and distortion of biblical themes. it is a shame i am such a sinner and too slothful to correct you.

The Rev · 03-21-2011, 12:13 AM

You should repent, and clarify what you mean v3d4.

The Rev

Štulic · 03-21-2011, 03:50 AM

I just started working with a guy who just doesn't stop talking about God and religion in a very philosophical way, without accepting my agnostic look at those things he feels an obligation and responsibility to "open my eyes" and other philosophical crap.

He really seams to be brainwashed in one of those very intensive Landmark brainwashing seminars.

The Don · 03-21-2011, 04:47 AM

Maybe you'd be more inclined to agree with him, if you weren't so blind buuuuuuddy.

Roach · 03-21-2011, 01:00 PM

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He really seams to be brainwashed in one of those very intensive Landmark brainwashing seminars.

then it served it's purpose.

**SageTree** · 03-22-2011, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Don

Maybe you'd be more inclined to agree with him, if you weren't so blind buuuuuuddy.

riiiiiiiiiight......

03-20-2011, 01:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
scottishbastard ARGH! FUCK! KILL! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Castaic/Los Angeles California BITCHES! Posts: 1,954 Thanks: 32 Thanked 69 Times in 60 Posts	Christian Gnosticism The last year I've been on a spiritual quest. I've been on my meds and my methadone and fianlly have the focus to read gnostic literature. I recommend anyone to read the Nag Hammadi Libray, the apocryphal texts, and the gnostic gospels. Currently I have a simplified version of the bible as wee as ab older king james versionm :The gnostic gospels of st thomas, st mary magdalene, and Gnosis of the cosmic christ all my Tau Malachi, I've set up a gnostic shrine in my house with everything from buddha statues to large crossesl The most interesting aspect of Gnosticism is firstly the male-female aspect of everything (i.e. god is the father mother, jesus's female counterpart to Logos is sophia etc.). Secondly there is a strong idea that the God of the new testment is a perfect Gpd (the creator of all the as) but the god of the old testament was an imperfect and jealous God (the creator of the physical world), and our salvation is reliant on reaching "gnosis" a knowledge of cosmic origins. people like Jesus, buddha,mani,bodidhae mam john the baotist, set ecr were all sent "born" of the true father to spready Gnosis. __________________ Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you You think you hold the high hand I've got my doubts I come from Chino where the asphalt sprouts ..... And even if I have to go to Claremont Well I guess I'll just have to go to Claremont Let me go Let me lie low Yeah but you're going to do what you wanna do No matter what I ask of you And you send your dark messengers to tempt me I come from Chino so all your threats are empty - the mountain goats

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SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,768 Times in 4,664 Posts	Sounds good, SB. The Nag Lib. is really good stuff. I actually posted a video on the "Lost Gospel of Judas" in there the other day, maybe you'd enjoy it. While it's not a Nag text, it IS an early Christian-Gnostic text and is a pretty recent find, if I'm not mistaken. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

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03-20-2011, 10:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,865 Thanks: 5,018 Thanked 5,420 Times in 2,865 Posts	I think the Abrahamic religions, be they Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, can all be broken down into two kinds of messages: 1)What the right way to live your life is, and 2)Why you should be scared shitless not to obey Messages #1. And much of the contradiction in the bible comes between #1 messages and #2 messages, and rarely between messages of the same kind. For example: #1 "Thou Shalt Not Kill", but #2 "God ordered the Jews to kill every living thing in Canaan, men, women, children, even animals" Those who accepted the rules about how to live their lives correctly got to live, but others were subject to slaughter, sanctioned by the Lord. But the problem is, I really think it's the #2 messages are what either drive people away from the Abrahamic religions, and therefore the benefit of the #1 messages, or it drives them to try and reinterpret the religions contained within. It would be my advice to anyone to take a real leap of faith, and just consider the #1 messages while rejecting the fearmongering. I know you're supposed to be scared to do that, but that's why you have to have faith. I think the biblical tigers, much like the bible itself, are made of paper. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

03-20-2011, 06:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
Qui-Bong Jinn Jedi High Council Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 2,135 Thanks: 911 Thanked 501 Times in 372 Posts	Both God's are assholes. Period.

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Sugar420 Freedom Bird Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,138 Thanks: 41 Thanked 183 Times in 733 Posts	go back to bible class Rev, that was a terrible oversimplification and distortion of biblical themes. it is a shame i am such a sinner and too slothful to correct you.

03-21-2011, 12:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,865 Thanks: 5,018 Thanked 5,420 Times in 2,865 Posts	You should repent, and clarify what you mean v3d4. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

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The Don You follow? Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 11,151 Thanks: 544 Thanked 781 Times in 426 Posts	Maybe you'd be more inclined to agree with him, if you weren't so blind buuuuuuddy. __________________ I am genuienly sad about my thanks:post ratio

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