The Rev

It makes me feel much better, actually. I have a hard time with shit that doesn't make sense. I always have this feeling in the back of my mind that everyone else knows something I don't. Now, I don't have to feel that way.

I will probably write another book. This time the characters and plot will be more fun so people will read the damn thing.



The Rev

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SageTree

That's cool Rev. Just that simple sentence from Komp changed all that for you?



On about the book:

I feel so bad man.... I tried to read your book several times and I often felt like I was limping my way through it.

It's not that it was bad.... I really liked what you had to say.... I just couldn't' get hooked, and wasn't sure why.

I HAVE to make it clear... I'm a horribly slow reader, and have had books I've been reading piece by piece for a couple of years now. So I WON'T let you accept full responsibility for MY not reading, It's my bad man... and what I have to offer in critique might be completely off base.

My presiding feeling ,in what I read, was that "This is a man's diary of his inward journey"... and you did a REALLY good job of that... so maybe you're on the write track in considering how to put that personal philosophy into a working world of a story.

Thanks for your thoughts Rev.... your thoughts about Komp's thoughts have me pondering this sentence....

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The Rev

I should post the article that wrote for Philosophy Now magazine (not yet published or rejected) and see if people will read that. It sums up one of the most important ideas from the book; the one, in fact, that I wanted feedback on the most.



The Rev

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SageTree

Can you tell us... or does that spoil the point....

Maybe I could have a chapter for homework, in this case.

Which one is your 'point' in, Brother Rev?

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The Rev

Oh, the article mostly discusses what's in Chapter Four, "I", except I change it up so it doesn't depend on having read other areas of the book.

Don't feel bad about not reading it, BTW. No one did. I can't even get my wife to read it. Everyone just gets confused. I don't know why, I wrote it in English, and kinda belabored the important points a bit, but I guess that wasn't enough. I feel kinda lonely about it, actually, but not butt hurt. I have this beautiful thing I'm dying to share with someone, but I can't, because I'm the only one who can see it.



The Rev

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Waves

Very well said.

(thanks also for the words sage- il try to stop in here more often. )

My comment on the above would be that they are very useful tools- but like any tool you have to use it in balance. too much reason and logic and your thinking becomes rigid, too little and your thinking becomes too aloof and you dont allow yourself to really understand anything past your own self-created illusions of belief and assumptions.

And i would also add that while we have a shitty track record when it comes to balancing reason and emotion/religion, its obviously an ongoing kind of evolution and we are going from people who worship the sun cuz its big and bright and we think it loves us, to people who are making significant technological and scientific advance. (look at the last 100 years alone! and thats a relative blink of an eye, even for humanity!)

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Waves

I think maybe thats why im grateful for being exposed to catholic school until grade 7 and being taught the bullshit at an early age. i was able to see very early on that these people were teaching me what equates to fairy tales and that the real fun is with the seekers of truth, not the proclaimers of it ;D

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Black

The people that first worshipped the sun made insane scientific and technological advances and those making advances today worship a book about a magician.
I'm not sure what my point is, but there is one in there somewhere.

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celestialpillow

~killer weed attacks with swift senselessness~

@all light and lushness is now suicide from hte spirit worl'de?

may aliens enjoy a wompin fit?

Suliman

^ wtf?

hey man i read it!
I got what you where trying to say too. I just dont entirely see how you reached the final conclusion, seemed to be more of a process of elimination than really backing up your premise, if that makes any sense

It really got me thinking though, especially your comment about the consciousness of unconscious things. when ever id think about consciousness id just rationalize it as a phenomenon that emerges through the CNS, but ever since you said that, i cant help but imagine the position and speed of each & every subatomic particle as some sort of encrypted, inaccessible memory storage device....

Sometimes i think the collective minds here on Yahooka could solve all of the worlds problems if they really wanted to

The Rev

The argument was solid. The reason it seems like a process of elimination is because the argument was reductio ad absurdum: that the premise is valid because all opposing premises can be shown to contain contradiction.



The Rev

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Roach

the world is just a planet in space.

the current problem it has, is the nuts that live on it.

but not to worry, the planet will still be here, long after I've completed typing this.

can't say as much for the nuts that live on it tho.







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And though she said that the pizza's holiness was "open to interpretation," Phelan did put the vacuum packed pie up for auction on eBay, promising to donate the proceeds to charity. The Cheesus Pizza received 26 bids and ultimately went for $153 Australian (about $160 US.)

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Center

What is all those things were intended to be the best choice possible but the people making the choices didn't have full information to be able to determine if it was in fact the best choice?

Their is some neuroscience data to back up the claim that a serial killer, when determining if murdering his neighbor is the best thing to do, seems to be experiencing the same kinds of brain state that a mathematician experiences when deciding if his calculation is correct. That kind of evidence suggests to me that most people regardless of what the external circumstance is are always trying to achieve the same kind of brain states when determining the value of their actions. And these brain states seem to corrolate with pleasant feelings. If that's the case then the question really becomes a matter of persuasive education...

I thought that an interestingly relevant point here...maybe not?

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profit

our sun goes round
a bigger sun, that goes round
an even bigger sun

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clive

this sounds like something a chick on facebook would post.

pass this messege onto 10 people or you will get killed tonight.

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