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Evils of Zina (Fornication)
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audio English only Quran for the first time on the internet More Glorious events in US history ---------------------------------- Reverend Solomon Stoddard, one of New England's most esteemed religious leaders, in "1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts Governor that the colonists be given the financial wherewithal to purchase and train large packs of dogs 'to hunt Indians as they do bears'." [SH241] Massacre of Sand Creek, Colorado 11/29/1864. Colonel John Chivington, a former Methodist minister and still elder in the church ("I long to be wading in gore") had a Cheyenne village of about 600, mostly women and children, gunned down despite the chiefs' waving with a white flag: 400-500 killed. From an eye-witness account: "There were some thirty or forty squaws collected in a hole for protection; they sent out a little girl about six years old with a white flag on a stick; she had not proceeded but a few steps when she was shot and killed. All the squaws in that hole were afterwards killed ..." [SH131] By the 1860s, "in Hawai'i the Reverend Rufus Anderson surveyed the carnage that by then had reduced those islands' native population by 90 percent or more, and he declined to see it as tragedy; the expected total die-off of the Hawaiian population was only natural, this missionary said, somewhat equivalent to 'the amputation of diseased members of the body'." [SH244] For more details click her |
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Interesting post....
Would you like to tie the links concerning Islam and the Holy Qur'an and the US historical data you provided together???
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Why does Islam often seem strange?
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A new MP3 CD quality stereo audio Explanation of the English only Quran (for the first time on the internet) Why We Die: from ancient to modern ideals ----------------------------------------- Death is understood as a part of our life . In ancient times , it was not as accepted . We searched for immortality , we ran after various myths and legends of a 'fountain of youth' and 'golden fleece' to give us everlasting life . Along with the fables of potions and objects to prevent death , came the assumptions of why we die . Numerous philosophers and poets gave their explanations , the ancients believed death was a curse on humans whereas pagan gods were immune to this curse , those gods could also remove this curse through a human/god marriage or sacred rituals . In the Bible , Paul gives a similar reason for death by claiming we die because of sin . Paul asserts that the first human sinned , therefore lost immortality , and subsequently causing all humans to be seemingly ' cursed ' with death . At first , Paul blames Adam by saying ; "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" Ro 5:12 "For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die....." 1 Co 15:21-22 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned..." Ro 5:14 "For the wages of sin is death....." Ro 6:23 We fear and hate what we don't understand , hence Paul says; "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. " 1Co 15:26 Furthermore in the Bible , we encounter an equivalent to the 'fountain of youth' concept ; "Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. " John 6:54 This is repeated by Paul who gives his own summary that Jesus gives eternal life ; " the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus ..... " Ro 6:23 ".....Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality....." 2 Timothy 1:10 Then Paul slips the accusation from Adam , over to Eve . Paul accuses all women of being responsible for the actions of Eve and says a woman can redeem herself through the pains of child " birth " ; " ..Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet woman will be saved through bearing children" 1 Timothy 2:14-15 Fortunately today , scientists know that common death is caused by ..... Oxygen . Oxygen is a natural element which also helps in corrosion of automobiles and flowers . The same reaction this element has towards metals and wild life, it too has towards our bodies , slowly aging us until death . This gas is a slow poison which affects each one differently as it also deteriorates metals and plants at various speeds . As prescribed by Doctors , anti-Oxidants are shown to slow the aging process . None the less , the anti-Oxidants do not stop our expiration date , and eventually , at a set time , we die . The Holy Koran confirms this natural process and does not give us episodes of 'original sin' and 'magic potions' . Instead the Holy Quran gives us facts from our Creator that death is a normal process and we live for a certain period and then return to God : " And among His Signs in this: thou seest the earth barren and desolate; but when We send down rain to it, it is stirred to life and yields increase. Truly, He Who gives life to the (dead) earth can surely give life to (men) who are dead. For He has power over all things." (Holy Koran 41:39) " Lo! Allah (it is) Who splitteth the grain of corn and the date-stone (for sprouting).; He brings forth the living from the dead and He is the bringer forth of the dead from the living; that is Allah! how are you then turned away." (Holy Koran 6:95) Nearly 1,400 years ago, prior to scientists confirming that the origin of death is the prolonged exposure to the elements on earth, the Holy Quran in these verses compares us to other living organisms, and summarizes that it is a common cycle for the plants (humans) to die due to the conditions on earth, while as the plants die and are brought back to life by the Heavenly water, so shall we be brought back to life on the Day of Judgement . Therefore it is not because of a sin or a curse that we pass on , it is because of the environmental conditions of earth as stated in the Holy Koran , roses are at one point in full bloom , and as the wilting process takes affect , the rose plant deteriorates and is eventually lifeless, the rose was not born a sinner as we are not born sinners, but the rose dies as we one day too return to our Creator . The Gospel leads some Christians to believe that Eve is the cause of all death on earth. Their interpretation is that all of God's creation was made perfect, immortal. Then when Eve sinned, she was no longer perfect, no longer immortal, consequently passing death through out the earth. Archeological scientists give us evidence through the Fossil records clearing the felony accusations towards Eve. Fossils give us solid proof that death existed and occurred millions of years before the existence of humans. The oldest human fossil, the homo habilis skeleton has been dated to be 2 million years old, showing that humans are relatively the youngest life forms on earth. The conclusive verification that death existed despite the activities of humans, is that fossil skeletons of monkeys were found 39 million years old, ancestors of rabbits 45 million years old, prehistoric dog and cat skeletons 64 million years old . All manifesting death millions of years before humans ever sinned. This concrete evidence again shows that death is not a transmitted curse, instead death is a natural geological process which first affected algae and bacteria over 3 Billion years ago. "Every soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial. to Us must ye return." (Holy Koran 21:35) Again signifying that death is universal, and no soul is exempt , the word "taste" here supports the fact that -common death- is due to our life term of inhaling the oxygen based gases. "And a soul will not die but with the permission of Allah the term is fixed;" (Holy Koran 3:145) "Say: "Running away will not profit you if ye are running away from death or slaughter....." (Holy Koran 33:16) "We have ordained death among you and We are not to be outrun" (Holy Koran 56:60) Medicine and machines may slow death, but eventually we die, eventually , death catches all of us and it can not be conquered as Paul in the Bible conceives . "Yet have they taken, besides Him, gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection." (Holy Koran 25:3) It is precisely stated in this verse that neither humans nor created idols, can have full control over death, dyeing is an unavoidable necrosis which those who assumed human gods could make you immortal, were wrong . The Quran debunks all fallacies of ancient flesh god parables who give us immortality through sacrifices or ritual drinks , dying is an unavoidable occrance similar to the sun setting: "And He it is Who gives life and causes death, and (in) His (control) is the alternation of the night and the day; do you not then understand?" (Holy Koran 23:80) The Divinity of this cycle is clear . If the Sun did not set, and the Night did not cover the land , then all of the earth would become barren , with a constant Sun 24 hours a day , the earth would wither away. Similarly, if humans did not die, the resources on this earth would have been depleted . We are surrounded by cycles, within and without our Universe, we also give birth, which maintains the existence of humans, so factually, both death and birth, maintains our presence here on earth. Many cycles are referenced in the Holy Quran which generate and preserve life on our planet, if any of the numerous sequences, including death, were removed from the repeated phenomenons, the human race would fade away within a century, instead of lasting millenniums as we have been. If we observe our surroundings realistically, we need death, we can't live without it . Life and Death are a Perfect pair like day and night: "And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect." (Holy Quran 51:49) Death in Islam is a transitional process , to die is nothing to remorse about: "In that case We should have made thee taste an equal portion (of punishment) in this life, and an equal portion in death: and moreover thou wouldst have found none to help thee against Us!" (Holy Quran 17:75) "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord;" (Holy Quran 3:169) Here we see that death itself is not the punishment, the punishments from God are prior to death and in the manner of accountability, punishments and rewards are after death. "Nor did We give them bodies that ate no food, nor were they immortals." (Holy Koran 21:8) "We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here):" (Holy Koran 21:34) We see that Adam , is confirmed to be a mortal , who was not exempt from death , so death was not passed down from Adam or Eve , nor did Adam cause himself to become mortal, being vulnerable to death is the way God created us . Death is a stepping stone, not a pox spreading through humans, generation after generation. The Quran lifts you up and inspires you, the Quran teaches us that we are born Muslims (in submission to God), unlike other doctrines which teach you that we are born sinners, heathens, cursed, incomplete, imperfect, infectious, inadequate, and fall short . While the Quran teaches you are a good person, you are born an agent of God, you can do the deeds that come with faith, and if not, God is Merciful, you are not passing a death curse on to your children, God loves you and your children, You are complete and you have the power to enter Heaven, with or without any other human assistance, No one had to die in your place , God forgave Adam at the start , God is forgiving . God takes your personal physical limitations into account and is Cherishing. "And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; "Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam."Submission to God (Holy Koran 2:132) May God have mercy on those who love Him. Peace For more details click her |
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The Lord Complete Audio English Quran in MP3 Translated by Pickthal
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A new MP3 CD quality stereo audio English only Quran (for the first time on the internet) "What is Islam?" Islam is not a new religion, but the same truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people. For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is both a religion and a complete way of life. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the majority have nothing to do with the extremely grave events which have come to be associated with their faith. For more details click her |
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I think the banhammer is in order.
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Yea, maybe I'm hoping this person will actually engage with me cause I wouldn't mind having an actual discussion.....
If not, be the end of the week that hammer will swing.
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But coming here to spam us with that message is counter intuitive to the very message you are trying to tell us about. If you do not engage in conversation on Yahooka, insha'allah, and continue to only post as you have been, it will result in being banned from the site by the end of the week, as a spammer. I welcome an intelligent discussion on the topic of Islam, it greatly interests me and would like to hear more from you besides the spammy messages. Salaam, SageTree
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Islam and Racism
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Translations of the meaning of the Quran "How did he become a prophet and a messenger of God?" At the age of 40, while engaged in a meditative retreat, Muhammad received his first revelation from God through the Angel Gabriel. This revelation, which continued for twenty-three years, is known as the Quran. As soon as he began to recite the words he heard from Gabriel, and to preach the truth which God had revealed to him, he and his small group of followers suffered bitter persecution, which grew so fierce that in the year 622 God gave them the command to emigrate. This event, the Hijra, 'migration', in which they left Makkah for the city of Madinah some 260 miles to the north, marks the beginning of the Muslim calendar. After several years, the Prophet (SAW) and his followers were able to return to Makkah, where they forgave their enemies and established Islam definitively. Before the Prophet (SAW) died at the age of 63, the greater part of Arabia was Muslim, and within a century of his death Islam had spread to Spain in the West and as far East as China. For more details click her |
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Since this is pretty much an Islamic essays and information thread I'd like to contribute a a series and a few documentaries on the Muslim faith, history and culture. As well, I'd like to contribute to the dispelling of untruth and myths that surround this faith in this day and age. It's past and present are misunderstood greatly. This is a 3 part series from PBS about the birth and rise of Islam: This documentary is about the period in history when Spain was a part of the Islamic Empire: This documentary and perhaps one of my favourites focuses on Sufism and expounds it's philosophy via the music that is an important part of the tradition. Enjoy one or all of these videos, One and All. ~SageTree~
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