Mercury

^if you're not completely horrified by the slightest inclination of going to Hell, then you don't really believe in Hell's existance. No person in their right mind would be the least bit indifferent about ending up there.

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Roach

hey merc learned something !!!!!!

maybe.

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kamikazi89

hell exists, and it's accessible from new jersey

weirdnj.com - THE GATES OF HELL

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SageTree

The there is of course the 'other' silence
Where you 'explain' your beliefs through your life, instead of through your mouth


This is why Orthodox Iconography has pictures of the Saints with LONG arms or fingers, SMALL mouths and LARGE Ears... or just exaggerated features in general.

It's so they can reach to help, hear the truth, and engaging in talking only a little, it's a 'spiritual prescription' for a time when literacy was low and people understood through symbols.

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wellfleation

I still believe in God, Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and anything else which brings me comfort and helps me avoid reality.

Oh, no wait, I'm a realist. I don't need that shit. I got some beer and weed to get me there.

Money and religion are roots to all evil. The two of them are intertwined.

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wellfleation

A fact is something that can be repeated over and over again with the same result. Belief is based only on opinion. To take ones opinion and attempt to make it factual equals a republican.

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Roach

nah that's insanity... when you repeatedly do the same thing, expecting a different result.

Like praying ?

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Terry

Hell is quite possibly the worst argument one could make for God.

Were I to believe in it I would have to side with the apostle Peter when he writes that no just God would condemn his creation to eternal damnation, rather let them burn off their sins to learn a lesson and then join heaven as a newly taught cherub.

Any god who willfully sends humans to hell for not believing in the literal transcription of the bible should burn for eternity himself.

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Sir-Ex

I'd love to be a gay little cherub with little angle wings fucking dolphins and other cute animals and shit.

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Ditch the cigs!!!!!!

The Rev

For some reason, every time I see this thread, for the first split-second, I think it says "Hey Black Christians"



The Rev

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SageTree

Fix'd that for you.

Do humans or guns kill people?

People had the potential to be evil before religion and money came around.

I agree Roach, I think prayer has a good inward function as well, but 'putting it on God' and doing nothing about it is as good as putting it no place at all.

Things will be what they will be, up to a point, but we're more capable then some of us believe when it comes to where the solution is and where our trying should desist.

From James chapter 2:

+1

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Sugar420

i will try to give the straightest answer possible


Christians can only rely on what Jesus says. so all i know is what Jesus tells me.
Jesus says:

*matthew 7: 1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye

*matthew 18, the parable of the unforgiving servant: "the Kingdom of Heaven is like a certain king, who wanted to reconcile accounts with his servants. When he had begun to reconcile, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But because he couldn't pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, with his wife, his children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down and knelt before him, saying, 'Lord, have patience with me, and I will repay you all!' The lord of that servant, being moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
"But that servant went out, and found one of his fellow servants, who owed him one hundred denarii, and he grabbed him, and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!'

"So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will repay you!' He would not, but went and cast him into prison, until he should pay back that which was due. So when his fellow servants saw what was done, they were exceedingly sorry, and came and told to their lord all that was done. Then his lord called him in, and said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt, because you begged me. Shouldn't you also have had mercy on your fellow servant, even as I had mercy on you?' His lord was angry, and delivered him to the tormentors, until he should pay all that was due to him. So my heavenly Father will also do to you, if you don't each forgive your brother from your hearts for his misdeeds."

*John 8 3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4 they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. 5 Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such. What do you say about her?" 6 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." 8 And once more he bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 9 But when they heard it, they went away, one by one, beginning with the eldest, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. 10 Jesus looked up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" 11 She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and do not sin again."

so the christian answer is this: i don't know what happens in the afterlife, but i do now that i am not supposed to go around judging and condemning people for their sinfulness. anyone who does that should be reminded what Jesus said.

SageTree

A different man, with a different take on Christianity... please watch this YT, it might surprise you a little bit.

Bishop John Shelby Spong:

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kitch

eh I'd disagree strongly with that, I think a personal relationship with God is much more important that the bible. The people who use the bible to oppress people probably have a very tenuous relationship with God.

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Wirikuta

I actually think that christianity became strong when Constantine the great, emperor of rome, chose it as his religion in 313, and although giving freedom of religion to the empire, the christian religion had priviliges, they didnt pay taxes, and christian priest were put in high office, making it the strongest religion.

I think christianity might no exist without the above facts, regardless of the bible.

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The only thing in the universe that really rquires faith is a bad salesman.


peace, Wirikuta

Roach

Why is the dude in the orthodoxy picture missing half of a finger ?

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kitch

it's folded under, if I remember right it's a sign he's a teacher. There's some caves around Israel and Greece that have ancient christian representations of women making that gesture, but they've been long ago vandalized to destroy the hands and the eyes.

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Roach

Just so it's not "live long and prosper".

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snuggly winter

"What is Truth?" John 18:38 is my favorite Bible verse, by the way.

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toastyroach

What if I told you, I'm at least starting to know how god works and predict its behavior based on results I'm physically seeing manifest in my life?

Im not religious. And I used to think people who believed in god were fuxking whackadoo. And I still dont understand 'blind faith'. Im a computer scientist. My beleif In god comes from nothing less then hardcore analyzing of facts and gathering evidence. Theres just no other way for me.

For me I had to go through the wringer in life and stare death in it's face multiple times. That was the only way for me to gain a connection with god. And as I'm learning, it seems that most people with beleif in god also had to suffer violently. In fact, even I'f I get comfortable and start drifting, some sort of suffering will come into my life and I'll need god to eradicate that for me. I can only grow with god via suffering. I'm just too stubborn I guess. And I believe almost everyone is like this. Jesus and Buddha certainly were

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